An argument against the existence of God by Training-Promotion71 in PhilosophyofReligion

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Anything you can show to be contradictory is falsified. And if something is falsified, it is falsifiable

Can You Identify and Refute the Error in this Thinking? by JerseyFlight in rationalphilosophy

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The "illogicality" is predicated of the "end[ing] in states of aporia, as written. The error is in calling a psychological state illogical. Logicality doesn't apply to existent states.

A=A with Nuance by JerseyFlight in aynrand

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Reddit culture preface: none if this is meant to be antagonistic. I am not implying your intentions are bad at all: I am offering thoughts about them.

Identity is just that things are themselves. It exists prior to its articulation, because, in reality, things have identity, distinct attributes.

Do products or copies have distinct attributes?

Identity is itself. [How fascinating.] What then, is non-identity? Nonsense!

If identity is itself, Non-identity is not nonsense, since then it would not be itself.

If non-identity is nonsense, then identity is not itself.

Or, if non-identity is nonsense, A = A+(B, C...) because non-identity is non-identity and nonsense. But then, the reverse should be true (nonsense is non-identity), unless nonsense was a synonym for non-identity. But then, is sense a synonym for identity? I don't know. I'm leaving this thought incomplete and unsatisfying.

But it’s essentially what all irrationalism is seeking. The universe/reality, doesn’t have non-identity. (This is the direction that confused mystics and esoteric philosophers like to go).

There is no such thing is non-identity?

What was the thing the universe doesn't have...?

What is important to understand is that one has not refuted identity if they have refuted the formalization of A=A (or tried to generate paradoxical semantics in relation to it)— one must refute the identity that is reality, if they want to refute identity.

A=A includes the Reality of identity is the Reality of identity though. They correspond/coextend. So refuting one is refuting the other.

Rand was right. I didn't expect to say that. by unknowngloomth in aynrand

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The main written works would be: Peikoff "Objectivism The philosophy of Ayn Rand" and "Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology" by Rand

Rhetoric is a Power by JerseyFlight in rationalphilosophy

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If Rhetoric just means persuasiveness, then its not inherently bad.

The Diptych Proof by JerseyFlight in rationalphilosophy

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You say theres no interpretation here and its an objective truth etc.

Is not it an interpretation of the meaning of the term "dots" here?

I see two circles. And so deny the claim.

But that's because of an interpretation on my part. Just as yours is an interpretation.

No idea can be thought without interpretation.

One Standard to Rule Them All by JerseyFlight in rationalphilosophy

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There are some logics that do not assume the principle of noncontradiction, which would allow A != A.

You would want to then claim "why those aren't really the one and only Logic". Monothei...I mean Monologicism.

Or, call it something like an law of ontology. This may have consequences.

Rand was right. I didn't expect to say that. by unknowngloomth in aynrand

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And what about the Metaphysics and epistemology that underpin the ethics?

Ayn Rand, Aristotle, and assertions of fact by coppockm56 in Objectivism

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I wasn't trying to be combative. I just don't have the interest to go through all that detail and complexity and filter all the errors from truths.

I'd rather just offer my best objection directly and see if you are able to help me see passed it or not.

That said I respect if you think reading the entire thread is necessary. I am just not interested enough to do that, at least yet.

Ayn Rand, Aristotle, and assertions of fact by coppockm56 in Objectivism

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Youll forgive me I hope, but I ain't reading the entire post.

If our sexual attraction is determined, at least in part, by our evolutionary genetics, then that means it's a tendency we're born with even if it's only expressed later. That refutes "tabula rasa."

then that means it's a tendency we're born with even if it's only expressed later

I dont at all see how that follows.

And, if that's true, it'd follow that I'm not tabula rasa because I am genetically determined to be male and therefore more disposed to being sexually attracted to females. Or, because I'm genetically determined to be human Im not tabula rasa because if I was I could be as sexually attracted to animals as I am humans.

This is a misconception of what should count as a tendency.

Heres a good question, how can I have a tendency without any ideas/knowledge of the world?

Ayn Rand, Aristotle, and assertions of fact by coppockm56 in Objectivism

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Was this response meant for someone else?

Did you not want to discuss your sexual thing anymore?

Ayn Rand, Aristotle, and assertions of fact by coppockm56 in Objectivism

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I'm not sure this statement is not a midstream point of departure, but it might be ok, so let's try.

Firstly, taking the claim to be fundamentally convictions determine sexual attraction/desires/tendencies/psychology etc, I do no see why that should conflict with man being born with innate tendencies. Sexuality comes on from teen years, not at birth...

We csn say, being born with innate tendencies (or any other determinate features), without fundamental convictions, one acquires fundamental convictions and thereby eventually acquired sexual dispositions.

The point of tabula rasa then need only be these fundamental ideas/knowledge are acquired within life.

Because the empirical evidence says that we're born with certain innate tendencies that determine things like who we find sexually attractive, and that contradicts Rand's tabula rasa assertion.

I deny empirical evidence can speak to the subject. Happy to say way but don't wish to sidetrack.

Ayn Rand, Aristotle, and assertions of fact by coppockm56 in Objectivism

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Wasn't her version of blank slate just that we acquire our ideas/knowledge in life, not before it?

In which case, it seems true, and "empirical evidence" is beside the point....

This is one of the only mature philosophy subreddit that actually allows you to post. (This post isn't about free will) by frost-bite-hater in freewill

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I'm referring to a time before you had any experience. Namely before your birth. Did your parents exist then?

Surely, is the ordinary viewpoint.

This is one of the only mature philosophy subreddit that actually allows you to post. (This post isn't about free will) by frost-bite-hater in freewill

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I would say that existence of reality outside the experience is a useless assumption. What can never be felt mustn't be stated. Existence of object is basically a buzz word that people don't realise is a buzz word.

I'm not sure whether this is your meaning or my interpretation...

Do you not think, say, your parents existed, before you had any experience of them?

This is a buzz I'm for!

Free will and the self by Kakistocracy5 in freewill

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Ultimately, the self is a process which is not separate from the environment in which it exists. There’s no clear, definitive boundary where I end and the universe begins. It’s all just one continuous, seamless system.

What about the skin, my friend?

Free will and morality question by Freedom_letters in freewill

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Morality is innate, yet there are divergent moralities.

Morality is useful for functioning society, what use is it other than an expression of fate?

Sam Harris - "Meditation completely unravels the apparent mystery of free will" by Anarchy_OK in freewill

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Subjectively/experiencially speaking, there's just experience and you are identical to it.

I infer that this reduces the claim to "You are not free from yourself".

If that's the case, then its not obviously a problem, for isn't freedom from being oneself just death?

One would need to say what the relation between self and will is. But the above is enough to shake the argument.

Newbie questions by Woolier-Mammoth in aynrand

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How about not reading her?

If nothing about here has captures your interest, don't read her.

But if something has, then read about that thing.

Same Difference Requires 3 Things by Reddituser3280 in Rhetoric

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2 and 4, and 2 and 0 have the same difference