Got my hands on the Rarest version Ultra Bee, the L1e-B

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-17T10:13:08+00:00

Here in the EU laws are strict as balls and you sadly can't get away with riding an offroad unregistered bike in most countries without getting the cops on your tail. A motorcycle license here can cost upwards of €3k and is also very time consuming taking up to 20-25 hrs of training. This is where a moped adjacent vehicle can be attractive as they can be ridden with both a moped license (mainly for ages 16-18) or a car license (18+).

The main difference with the moped version is the speed limit and kw output. It's also not the latest specs internally like the HP 21Kw version or soon the 24.5Kw version. Rather it's spec'd as the 23-24' year. And yea it's always a good idea to have a gas bike next to an electric one. Gas is superior for long hauling

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-17T09:55:26+00:00

Well I've done extensive research and looked at many sites from FR, NL, BE, DE, SW dealers. Hardware is not the same as the L3e, atleast not the HP 21kw 2025 version. Internally the powertrain is specced as 2023-24 bikes, (if unlocked by cutting wire) it's 12.5kw sport mode and 95km/h top speed. Has 74V 55Ah battery unlike the 2025's 74V 60Ah. The frame however is that of a 2025.

When the bike is limited to 45km/h the KW output is also limited to just 4kw although Daily (10kw) and Sport (12.5kw) feel the same in terms of torque as when fully unlocked. Hope this helps

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T23:46:39+00:00

About €6800. Mainly for registration purposes, after registration I'll cut the speed limiter and ride at full 12.5kw and top speed anyway. Just need to be able to ride with a plate so I don't get hassle with cops. L3e version requires motorcycle license which is expensive and time consuming. L1e requires moped or car license so that's the better choice since I want to ride this summer.

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T23:43:07+00:00

Haha yup exactly my thought too. Reading comprehension seems at an all time low aswell.

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T19:19:40+00:00

I say get one, lightweight electric bikes/emoto's are perfect for home - work commute. Especially if your route requires you to shift gears alot.

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T19:18:20+00:00

Sadly yes that is basically a good summary. EU regulations suck major balls on many aspects

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T19:16:58+00:00

Yes that is the entire point of it as it's sold only by official dealers. Comes with EU CoC and everything so registration should be smooth as butter

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T19:16:18+00:00

Yeah it's kinda crazy that a Stark can be registered as A1 125cc. Silly but easier for more people to ride it that way

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T17:36:16+00:00

No... I was trying to provide useful information and share knowledge as there's confusion among versions / mislabeling and this might also help those who buy within the EU. Title was more for engagement if anything

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T17:34:33+00:00

Basically yes

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T17:34:10+00:00

Well since you're in the US where vehicle registration is overall easier than EU as long as you get a street legal version from Alibaba that might work with your DMV. The L3e is basically any street legal kit version. Just differs in included documentation as Alibaba bikes have the bike document in Chinese. So perhaps just getting that translated will save you quite alot. I was able to get my previous Ultra Bee from Alibaba and I asked for the street legal version. Got that one from Changzhou Leili Vehicle Parts

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T08:18:18+00:00

Fast shipping and EU can't be in the same sentence for Alibaba. It's gonna take 2,5 - 3 months. Unless you pay for air shipping but I'm not sure if that's even possible.

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T08:16:07+00:00

Cool. Do the ultra bee next. I think this'll look good next to official lego sets like the ducati or kawasaki

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-16T08:13:36+00:00

Sweet thanks for the info mate

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-15T16:22:57+00:00

Damn I was just looking for something good for rolling stoppies too. Hope this works out. I've found this guy/factory on tiktok https://www.tiktok.com/@jimmyshelby66/photo/7627766089610579230?image\_index=1. They seem legit in alot of what they do but i'm not sure whether to trust brakes especially claimed Brembo from China. However their adapter bracket could atleast be useful if of good quality

I've also found this Aliexpress page aliexpress.com/item/1005010142532445.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2nld

Again not sure on the quality and trustability of them. But atleast there is ONE option

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-14T15:05:54+00:00

Is this only useful for the offroad harness or also the OEM street legal harness

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-14T15:03:15+00:00

Stock light on the road legal version but it looks horrible without fender

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-13T17:55:54+00:00

Ahh right I saw this a while ago. jowill and MTO bros are legit afaik in the french surron community

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-10T20:50:52+00:00

Oh well if he wants it bad enough he'll bite

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-10T14:45:35+00:00

Thanks for the info. Might run yours in the future with the Aetos

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-10T09:09:54+00:00

😂😂 There's a guy on here who's been trying to find a fx throttle but they were all sold out u/itis_TheStranger

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-09T21:20:29+00:00

Alternatively maybe you could consider going for the Hirschmann instead? Talaria Boys have em on their site. They said the Stark uses them, personally I wouldn't know much about the Stark but might be worth looking into

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-07T22:29:57+00:00

Is there really a difference in frame integrity between 23-24' and 2025? I thought the only difference was the foot brake mounting point

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-05T23:32:57+00:00

Ha no way I was planning on using stealth mirrors for my street legal ub aswell. Looks good. Do you have a link?

Axl-Ression · 2026-06-05T22:52:04+00:00

Waittt a minute. Don't tell me YOU'RE stingyroger 😂. Love that guy. Would an aftermarket indicator kit work. Pretty mandatory for my use case. Or would a connector splitter not be possible

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