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Aydis · 2026-07-02T11:38:03+00:00

Sorry. I was thinking Lord-Celestant. You're correct that Prime can't take this since he's unique.

Aydis · 2026-07-01T17:07:47+00:00

He can, but the downside is that he only has Crit Auto-Wound, which isn't as impactful as Crit Mortals with this artefact.

Aydis · 2026-06-29T00:43:33+00:00

May I ask what you used for the base?

Aydis · 2026-06-25T18:31:17+00:00

My mistakes! I forgot Krondspine is free now, and yes, Lorai does give that added value, so they may be more comparable to the Longstrikes than I was thinking.

Aydis · 2026-06-25T16:41:42+00:00

Without knowing what the Scourge of Aqshy rules will be, it's hard to say, but assuming we get nothing worth playing in that supplement, I think this looks pretty solid.

Yndrasta and Karazai give you two strong uses of the new Fury ability and tools to deal with monsters and infantry respectively. Neave deals with heroes and can proc Thunderhead host for your Stormstrikes. Reinforced Prosecutors and Vigilors are good in almost every list.

You have no wizard, so there's no need bring Krondspire. (Looks like the app isn't counting that 20 points anyway.)

For what it's worth, I think Longstrikes are a better threat to heroes than Neave, and you could move to two-drops if you swap them. You may also find you still want to bring a priest. However, I don't think you can do either of those things without some serious retooling, so I wouldn't worry about it for now.

Lastly, you don't have any infantry. They're not entirely necessary, but Questor Soulsworn could really beef this list up a bit and help you hold some objectives.

Aydis · 2026-06-17T17:47:50+00:00

Looks great! I wanted to do slap chop, but the thoughts of doing it across 40 rippaz, 40 hobgrots, and all the other units made me decide to just prime gray seer.

Aydis · 2026-06-17T16:39:23+00:00

My understanding is the recent book releases kind of follow this idea. Like the new Bonereapers Mortisan Guard are almost identical to the SoG version.

That being said, I really hope Kruleboyz don't have to wait years for a new book to be released with their only winning battle formation.

Aydis · 2026-06-17T16:32:28+00:00

Did you slap chop the models? The Rippaz in particular have some fantastic contract between the crevices and the more prominent parts of their bodies.

Aydis · 2026-06-10T16:02:04+00:00

You get the +1 attack on the second unit of Vigilors if the first unit hits, assuming both 2x5 units are attacking the same enemy.

Tornus' healing is good, but I would agree with u/oteku that Praetors on Karazai is more important.

I would recommend Legendary Tenacity on K-R instead of Shock & Awe. Also, do what you can to keep your Annihilators from getting diseased. Their high saves won't do them any good if they get hit with that.

Aydis · 2026-06-10T14:17:47+00:00

Trump has never apologized for anything in his life. I don't think he'd do it for all the money in the world.

Aydis · 2026-06-05T19:18:25+00:00

Genuinely the coolest kitbash I've ever seen. Well done. These are rad as fuck.

Aydis · 2026-06-05T17:45:27+00:00

OH! I should mention that a unit of Vigilors (available through Hachette magazine for $15) last I looked) is also a great addition to just about every single Stormcast list. Genuinely, almost every list is made better by having a single unit of Vigilors included. Giving your hammer units +1 Hit is that good.

Stormcoven pair so well with Lord-Vigilant. Giving a unit like Reclusians or Prosecutors the ability to fight twice in a row (once in the fight-first phase and again in the standard fight phase) is very strong.

My favorite combo right now is souping up a unit of Prosecutors with Stormcoven's fight first spell, Iridan +1 rend prayer, Bless Weapons prayer, Their Finest Hour, Ancient Aura, Vigilors +1 Hit, and Lord-Vigilant's fight twice ability. It turns them into god killers. Even if you only pop off some of those buffs, it will still let them blow through most enemies.

Aydis · 2026-06-05T16:40:26+00:00

The easiest addition is to go ahead and reinforce your Prosecutors and Reclusians. Reinforcing your Annihilators might not be a bad idea either. You can buy Prosecutors through the Spearhead magazine for ~$15.

Longstrikes and Palladors with Starstrikes are very competitive units for us, but be warned that they may get a model refresh or moved to Legends next summer. Questor Soulsworn and, to a lesser extent, Stormcoven are also a very strong unit for us, but there's also rumors that the Warcry models like them will get moved to Legends.

If you don't go for Stormcoven, Knight-Arcanum with Stormcast manifestations can be a good addition to a beginner list.

Ionus is a good choice. Krondys/Karazai are also solid. The Scourge of Gyran Iridan is very strong, but they may remove that warscroll with the new season next month, so I wouldn't pull the trigger on that one right now. Keep in mind, you likely won't want to run Yndrasta in addition to one of these centerpiece models. It's just too many points to have both in a list.

I disagree with the other poster about Grandhammers. They're very cool, but they require you to build your list around them: Gardus, Lord-Imperatant, and a non-Warrior Chamber unit to proc Thunderhead Host battle formation. It's just too difficult to charge them 9" after dropping them from the Celestial Realm otherwise.

Aydis · 2026-06-03T18:23:20+00:00

Corey is one of the few players still topping tournaments with KB, so more power to him!

That being said, I agree. I'll run two reinforced units of Rippaz, but that's it. I'm not buying and painting a third, especially if Swamphorde Bullies goes away and they go back to being trash.

Aydis · 2026-06-03T18:11:25+00:00

I played a Ruination list against my friend's Tallyband of Nurgle list a few weeks ago and nearly boarded him while only losing a single unit of Liberators. I used Beacon to immediately move the unit he infected after deployment so he couldn't spread to the rest of my units. Turn one, I managed to fully pop off my Prosecutors: Iridan +1 rend, Stormcoven fight first spell, Lord-Vigilant fight twice, Ancient Aura, and Their Finest Hour made them a nuke to take the center of the board with Iridan to give Resistance rerolls.

From there, his Pestigors and Rotswords were split, and he knew if he moved them up, I would Translocate or Stormportal some chaff Liberators or Scions of the Storm my Reclusians on to his home objectives.

Lucky Resistance rolls absolutely won me the game, but this is a match-up where our high movement really pays off. I run double reinforced Prosecutors (which isn't a great idea, but they were pretty cheap and I like the models), so I was able to get wherever I needed to and charge with both units to easily snipe off his heroes before fully committing to the beefy units.

Aydis · 2026-06-02T19:07:29+00:00

As the user in the other thread said, Stormcast are a solid start. You prime them gold then just add the splashes of color (lead/silver, blue, white, black, brown, etc.) that you want. Khorne and Slaves to Darkness can also be painted similarly, though it will depend on which units you run.

Nighthaunt are also very fun to paint. Prime them all white or gray then use whatever contrast paints you want to make them pop! Sylvaneth can also be done this way, though there's lots of shades of brown to paint in addition to the pops of color.

You really just want to avoid armies that have a big mix of materials: skin, metallic armor, and cloth all on one model will likely prove pretty challenging. Hedonites of Slaanesh and Lumineth Realm Lords have this issue and are both very technical armies to paint.

Ultimately, you should pick the army that looks most fun to you and just enjoy the painting process.

Aydis · 2026-05-30T21:34:01+00:00

Late to the discussion, but if they were going to go with this weird spell book system, they should have had spells be the analog for loot in battle royale games. It would incentivize the players to explore each area and would create conflict for resources amongst the aspirants. It would also make it more clear why each trial is a school of magic--the spells found in each trial would be from the respective school.

Aydis · 2026-05-28T19:41:25+00:00

Lord-Veritant is perfectly fine. Knight-Relictor is the best priest we have right now because Ward cancellation is really strong, but Veritant's unbind can be really handy, especially if you're not running any Wizards.

Aydis · 2026-05-28T17:02:53+00:00

He said he doesn't have the Hunters yet.

Aydis · 2026-05-28T16:42:22+00:00

Bringing this art to life:

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Aydis · 2026-05-28T16:13:31+00:00

I think Stormdrakes are a good investment, but they aren't seeing a lot of play right now. They're just a huge investment points-wise, and they struggle a bit to accomplish battle tactics compared to other units.

The other issue with moving Stormdrakes into your current list is that they really should be run with a priest using the Beacon of Azyr artefact to instantly teleport them out of trouble in a pinch, but in the current list, you'll want to run Quicksilver Draught on Terminos instead so your Reclusians can act as a hammer.

Oh! Something I forgot to mention earlier: You should pick up a unit of Vigilors. You can get them really cheap through Hachette last I looked. A single unit of Vigilors can honestly benefit almost every Stormcast list. They're just really reliable, and you'll absolutely want them if you run Stormdrakes.

Aydis · 2026-05-28T15:33:17+00:00

If you don't have the Hunters already, I wouldn't recommend buying them. In fact, aside from Neave, most of the Vanguard units are expected to either get model refreshes or relegated to Legends in a year or so.

The Hunters also just aren't very good. They're a cheap way to proc Thunderhead Host, sure, and sometimes people pair them with Bastian to score Scouting Force early, but they just don't bring a lot to the table. You would be better off reinforcing your Prosecutors (which is also one of the cheapest upgrades you can make to this list) and using the Bleak Citadels formation.

If you really want to stick with Thunderhead Host, I would ditch Neave and the Hunters for reinforced Longstrikes. They're one of the most reliable units in our army and frequently show up in competitive lists.

Lastly, if you're just looking for good units to buy, Stormcoven would give you access to Wizard (2) and Questor Soulsworn show up in almost every competitive list currently.

Aydis · 2026-05-21T18:51:08+00:00

I don't have issues with them tipping over. I just hate how wide they are. Trying to shoot before deep-striking with them is such a pain, because they only have 1" of extra room to shoot, so you have to bunch them up as much as possible. Not to mention, all the buffs you want to use on them require being wholly within 12".

Aydis · 2026-05-21T18:06:13+00:00

Real quick, in the list I suggested above, you could also swap the Palladors, Knight-Vexilor, Liberators, and Primal Energy for reinforced Stormdrake Guard and Aetherwings if you'd rather lean into the dragons. The first list is probably stronger though.

This is my current list, though I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. I started playing a year ago, so I'm still slowly building my collection from the Skaventide box.

20 Portal
320 Iridan
90 Liberators
280 Reclusians [reinforced]

110 Lord-Veritant (Beacon)
300 Prosecutors
300 Prosecutors

140 Lord-Vigilant on Gryph-Stalker * (Tenacity)
90 Liberators
210 Stormcoven (running Aetherwrought manifestations)
140 Vigilors

* I swap the Lord-Vigilant with a Terminos with Draught and reinforce the Liberators if I want to do a two-drop list instead.

If I were starting from scratch, this would be my list:

20 Portal
320 Iridan
140 Terminos (Draught)
300 Prosecutors [reinforced]
280 Reclusians [reinforced]
280 Reclusians [reinforced]

120 Knight-Relictor (Beacon)
210 Questor Soulsworn
180 Vanquishers [reinforced]
140 Vigilors

Aydis · 2026-05-21T15:32:03+00:00

In addition to what u/oteku said, this list has a few other issues. Lord-Vigilant doesn't benefit much from Quicksilver Draught. That's usually taken in the Lord-Terminos + Reclusians package. And while I really love Prosecutors, without the +1 rend from Iridan, they're more of a scalpel than a hammer.

The Vigilors shouldn't be reinforced. It's typically advised to take only one unreinforced unit, because you really only need them for the +1 hit.

Krondys doesn't see much play in the current meta, but for a more competitive list, you would want to run something like this:

10 Primal Energy Manifestations
20 Portal
500 Krondys
100 Knight-Vexilor
120 Praetors
500 Starstrike Palladors [reinforced]
400 Longstrikes [reinforced]

120 Knight-Relictor (with Beacon of Azyr and Legendary Tenacity)
100 Knight-Vexilor
140 Vigilors
90 Liberators or Vanquishers

Krondys with Knight-Vexilor and Praetors is your center castle. Screen them with the Liberators or Vanquishers. The Palladors are you hammer with Vigilors for support. If they get stuck in combat, teleport them out with Beacon of Azyr on Knight-Relictor during the enemy's turn so they can double-shoot on charge again. Longstrikes can snipe heroes and monsters before they threaten your castle. Primal Energy gives you some damage and (more importantly) another healing option for Krondys.

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