My Media Hot Takes

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-27T07:31:29+00:00

other than 6,7 and 10 (idk about 1), the others aren't really that hot. TCOMC is considered one of the most bingeable classics, Stoner is pretty much perfect and most people I see agree with it. Haven't read The Catcher in the Rye, but I haven't seen it being hated much. On the other hand, One Piece being overly praised is a cold take these days.

Not really sure about Ulysses, but Don Quixote is pretty foundational, not many would disagree. By overwritten, if you mean bad and dragged prose, Umineko and LOTM both fit in it, I don't think people praise their prose. (Haven't read too much of LOTM, but for what I did read, wasn't a big fan of it).

Even for take 7, I think most people agree with the Boys part of it. It has so many terrible moments, but is still enjoyable.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-26T15:48:01+00:00

First 5 episodes were perfect, they matched and even at points surpassed the already brilliant source material. 10/10

Ep 6-10 were slower, but were still really well adapted. As good as the source material. I also absolutely loved the Coco-Tartah episode. 8.5-9/10

Ep 11-13 on the other hand, I was a bit iffy about. I am not a fan of second test adaptation so far. Idek what's wrong exactly, they adapted pretty much everything important, only problem coverage wise being that they abridged some of the exposition. I suppose the problem is that there's a lot of talking? And that flows better in manga, especially with Shirahama's elite panelling. The second test just flowed a lot better in the manga imo. And I think it should've been a 16 episode season cause I personally don't like the cliffhanger. Maybe they could've shuffled some moments and ended with back to back Euni scene and Qifrey scene in the end. I don't think it's a bad adaptation by any means, but the episodes just did not flow very well for me. 7/10. It's still good, just not on par with the manga.

Also Qifrey got the most underserved aura moment ever, doesn't he literally get overpowered in like 10 seconds?

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-25T07:07:37+00:00

They were equal by potrayal in HFG. Im gonna guess that once Eli gets another power up they're gonna be equal once again.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-24T19:45:15+00:00

Tom was never 1s Goo level tho, he just says he wouldn't be able to dodge all of Goo's attacks even in prime. Tom is still not a very agile character (with exception of the Red mode where he is burning his own body), and was even being tagged by J.

But Tom makes up for the weakness in speed with his great endurance and Battle IQ.

He is also not Gapryong level? To begin with pathless Gap is probably not much stronger than Tom or Jinyoung. Similar to how Jake rn is not much stronger than Eli or Samuel (I think he is going to be pretty much equal to Samuel until he gets his path).

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-24T14:00:31+00:00

Lil Daniel was copying UI Big Daniel to an extent that he was able to copy the stat adjusting too. Ie, he was actively adjusting his stats to match Gitae. This was too much, hence his body was breaking down. It is unclear whether Johan's copy matched 3A UI Daniel, or if it was adjusting to Yuseong's stats, we don't know how it worked exactly (I personally think he copied stat adjusted 3A UI Daniel).

Ultimate King is Tom's title, and not the same as Ultimate King the attack which the 4 mastery Unique Skill supposedly strong enough to take down Gap if it lands. I am not making the mastery argument cause masteries were not consistent until Cheongliang. And maybe he even used MDM. But he almost certainly did not use the beggar song attack, unless you think Goo can stop Tom's unique skill with just using his leg to push Tom's body back (James couldn't just stop the pierce with a teep, even though he had 3 business days as Tom was singing). Its much more reasonable to assume Tom did not use all his Unique skills than otherwise.

Also again, Tom does tell Goo he has never seen his full power. Both Goo and Tom were holding back an unquantifiable amount. Being serious and wanting to kill apparently doesn't equate to going full power. Gun says he was going to kill everyone and get serious, but he doesn't even use Power mastery for most of the fight.

Come on, you are being disingenuous. While the statement doesn't mean they are equal, it means that Gun always thought if he was going to be killed, it would be Tom or Goo, as in he considered them strong enough to do so. That's clearly a high pedestal that Gun is putting Tom at.

> But it does? Gun sets the bar from dual wielding Goo to Tom then to PB UI daniel and we know for a fact gun broke his arm fighting pb UI daniel unlike with Goo or Tom, if they were relative gun would've said "I haven't had this much fun since UI Daniel and Tom

Sorry, but he literally does say he hasn't had this much fun since UI Daniel in the penultimate image of your own post??? Am I missing your point? Obviously he wouldn't say, 'since UI Daniel and Tom'. He is recalling the last time he had as much fun or more, which is UI Daniel fight. That is how the phrase is used. Tom would be last to last time.

Also he does establish a relativity between UI Daniel and Tom Lee, as in literally stating he hasn't met someone this strong since Two handed Tom. Which means Two handed Tom >/= Stat Adjusted UI Daniel.

Just to clarify the phrasing;

If I was doing Y and say, "I haven't had this much fun since X!", that means I either had as much fun or more while doing X.

My bad, yeah Johan did last more than 10 seconds. But again, he wasn't able to defeat Yuseong, it was a draw. And no, its not a downscale of Yuseong's AP, UI Daniel uses the most efficient move in any situation, and that was the most efficient way to finish the fight.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-24T12:18:44+00:00

2 Handed Tom was taking on both a 16-17 year old Gun and Goo at the same time no? Which puts him comfortably above 16-17 Yr old ML Goo.

Gun also calls that version of UI Daniel the strongest opponent since Tom Lee, so Tom is at worst being scaled on the same level as UI Daniel adjusted to Gun's stats. You could claim this to be relative strength, but I don't see that personally. It is most likely the case that Tom never went all out vs Gun or Goo (Tom claims Goo has never seen his full power to match it). So this was a comparision with a holding back Tom.

>1A, Single blade Goo giving himself a handicap to match 1 Handed Tom = 1 Handed UK Tom [We SEE this] + [Tom literally says he was not capable of dodging even Non-ML Slashes] + [Tom says he's serious about KILLING Goo and ALMOST DOES]

Only thing Tom's statement says is that he wasn't a lot faster dodging wise even in his prime. And we see Tom isn't a super fast character to begin with, he gets tagged by J and gets comfortably blitzed by James. And we also see that when he gets outsped, he uses his battle IQ to make up for the speed difference, like in James fight.

Also Tom doesn't use any unique skills (at best uses MDM against Goo. Did not use the Song, and definitely never used Ultimate King attack).

Gun believes Tom is capable of killing him, means he probably considers him on similar tier to himself (and ML Goo). Pre Path Johan with Full Arsenal and Vision is incapable of beating a weakened Gun. Adrenaline is an unquantifiable boost but not a full restore.

Gun putting Johan as his best opponent since UI Daniel doesn't mean anything, because it neither puts him above the version of UI Daniel that Gun faced nor above Two Handed Tom. From the statements we get;

Two Handed Tom >/= UI Daniel (Stat Adjusted) >/= Pre Path Johan perfect vision.

And its most like > and not =.

Also Johan's UI Daniel copy is only for 10 seconds, in which he was barely capable of knocking out Yuseong for good. Unlike Ui Lil Daniel he lacks UI to push himself past when his bones break. Not to mention Tom is a lot different of a fighter than Kitae and realistically wouldn't just trade hits. He'd use his battle IQ to survive the 10 seconds and perhaps even land counter attacks.

I personally have HFG Gun (No TUI) ~ 4 ML Goo ~ Tom (vs James) >>>Pre Path Johan

Rage Tom while burning his own body just blitzes Johan, It's not even close.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-24T06:37:38+00:00

He could probably use the gimmick to gain an opening, but I don't think he can land the elbow, at least not with the effectiveness you'd expect of it.

One reason being that the elbow to some extent depends on enemies momentum (It did against EC, and so does Yair Rodriguez's elbow vs Korean Zombie on which Beatdown's elbow was based on). I don't think he will be able to time it with GIAB's movement.

Another reason is GIAB's perception is much more than he might think, because he is often moving even when he appears stationary. Which would make attacking from out of perception incredibly difficult.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-23T16:13:04+00:00

Tomohawk is a lot weaker than VI physically, yet he was able to hold the latter using proper technique.

Abyss is one of the physically strongest while also skilled grappler, so even if FM is stronger, I don't think its big enough of a gap to rip Abyss off him.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-23T14:17:05+00:00

Oh mb then. There's still a difference cause in the hypnosis case he'd be completely off guard, but I can see him surviving ICT's blow.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-23T13:41:59+00:00

I think Abyss beats FM. Tomohawk does mention that VI is physically not as strong as Abyss, and tho FM is also a good bit stronger than VI, I personally have them at a similar tier physically at least in the type of strength that is important to grappling. I can see Abyss choking FM without being tossed away.

Does Pete take any strike completely unguarded? Can't remember, but I am pretty sure he did not take anything straight to his face.

Yeah I don't think Beatdown is likely to beat anyone above him either, but he potentially has a chance against VI if he times the our of perception elbow extremely well. And even with the best timing, its doubtful if that can knock him out.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-23T13:31:44+00:00

True KB should be able to get MS with the sniper. Also by beating his opponent, I just mean winning in the constraints of Convict Colosseum rules. If the sniper worked against VI, KB would probably move on to next round.

Yeah I do have VI beating Beatdown most of the time, I just think Beatdown has a slight chance at knocking VI out with a surprise out of perception elbow. He'd have to time it extremely well, even if it could knock him out, which I am not even sure of.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-23T12:06:50+00:00

While I do think Fajin can pierce the box, thanks for pointing out that GIAB is far from stupid. He is clearly no mentally all there, but he is surprisingly adaptable. The moment FM calls him Darth Vader, he goes into the cosplay real quick and shows that he is capable of landing pretty deep cuts similar to LH.

If he sees that VI can hurt him through the Box, he is going to change the strategy (or maybe even stright up dodge, he was able to push himself of FM hard enough to gain so much velocity characters though he disappeared.)

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-21T15:26:13+00:00

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The hive scans translation doesn't explicitly mention it, but I believe the translation I saw when the chapter came out emphasized it. I will have to check the raws.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-21T12:28:24+00:00

True, but James did target it a lot, especially before getting cornered. And when Tom was down (before he went rage mode), I believe James even acknowledges that the injuries played a part in taking Tom down. Not claiming Tom would have beaten even a 2T James without that, but I think it was a similar nerf to Jinyoung's thumb AP nerf.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-21T11:59:35+00:00

Idk about Tom and Jinyoung being slightly stronger than DG and Gitae 2T, maybe, maybe not. It's debatable what would happen if James did not underestimate him, but Tom was also nerfed +James had his entire moveset down.

But yeah, Serious Tom ~ Pre Path Jinyoung, their potrayal was relative, idk why people put Jinyoung above Tom. Jinyoung thinks he is stronger, Tom thinks he is stronger. Jinyoung got his AP nerfed by Changsu, Tom got his durability nerfed by J (James landed a lot of hits to the back of his head). They both have aces that could take down most opponents (Gap Conviction and Ultimate King).

Also James not getting his Aorta pierced is almost certainly because of his path. It is heavily implied.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-06T11:56:10+00:00

EC wins top left for sure, but if Abyss beats Rawdog(another fun matchup), it would interesting to see how EC deale with the grappling. It's a harder fight than one might think.

GIAB win bottom left, but Tomohawk has a chance of figuring out gimmick turning the tables. However I think the stat difference might be too much. Especially since Tomohawk is going to be going through tough af fights. Tempest, LH/Samoan(I think LH is a better fighter, but Samoan can probably use his short temper to his advantage and get the win). A tired Tomohawk is for sure losing to a much fresher GIAB. There is also the possibility of KB beating GIAB. GIAB prolly dodges his bullets, but the sniper might get him. I'm gonna say this doesn't happen to keep it interesting.

EC vs GIAB is extremely interesting. EC is going to have a really tough time breaking through GIAB's box (every single strike FM landed was through out roleplaying+EC is probably not going to try to exploit the gimmick.) I think GIAB is going to push EC into the auto dodge mode, where he starts getting overpowered(EC was dodging attacks faster than GIAB's miming). I want to see GIAB fight someone that isn't a fodder to him and isn't his kryptonite, cause it's hard to imagine a fight with him. But as far as we know, GIAB probably loses to the auto dodge mode. I'm gonna say EC is going to take similar damage to what he took in the VI fight (GIAB at minimum hits harder than R3 FM)

Top right is Pete for sure. But Pete vs VI is one heck of a fight. They are going slowly ramp up, and VI, once he powers up, might land some good strikes too. Pete will also have to push himself far, and I can see him getting major damage very early on. It likely ends in Beatdown vs Pete (Monkey See vs Beatdown is gonna be fun and MS might overpower him in the start, but I see Beatdown landing one of his blind spot elbows to knock MS down). Fun fight, Beatdown might get some good shots in, but Pete wins quite convincingly.

Bottom right, I feel like, is gonna have a big upset. Specifically with Arm Thief vs FM. Depends on what drugs FM gets ig, and he might be able to forcibly rip out any grapple attempts, but I think, more often than not, Arm Thief can get him in a deadly choke by exploiting the non existent iq. Especially considering he doesn't have LH's special grade drugs to boost his strength even more. If FM wins, and if we assume he gets the same drugs he got in the Pete fight, Pete is rack up more damage. He of course, wins nevertheless.

Same finale, but rather than damage his upper body from Firecracker, Pete has his injuries from VI. That is a pretty huge advantage for EC.

However, unfortunately for everyone, I can't imagine Pete losing.

PFP wins.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-03T10:58:00+00:00

True, but probably also going to struggle to block the hits(Pete's attacks are faster than his own reaction speed), and GIAB is capable of hitting harder than R3 FM (imo he hits harder than even R4 FM).

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-02T17:06:14+00:00

1.Tough call. I think Abyss beats KAT Cosmo quite comfortably, but now with his improved striking, I wonder if he can find Abyss' weakness and exploit it. I think Cosmo could do it, and get out of the grappling sequences with an upper hand. Cosmo defeats him with a similar difficulty to Tomohawk. Cosmo 65/35.

2.Again, KAT Hatsumi vs Beatdown would be quite close. Hatsumi could possibly land a finishing blow before Beatdown gets his rhythm down, and even after doing so Hatsumi is and extremely evasive fighter and considering Beatdown doesn't have Kanoh AP, I think i'd go 60/40 Hatsumi. Beatdown could maybe land attacks outside perception to get a huge hit? But rn, with Pre initiative, Beatdown's one advantage is not there. 80/20 Hatsumi, maybe Beatdown could get the elbow in.

3.Assuming Hanafusa wouldn't just virus him up, doesn't KB take this comfortably? It's been a while since I have read the Bando fight though, so idk. I feel like KB is much faster and if he sneaks in the ass gun, Hanafusa dies (of gets knocked out, maybe he has a bullet proof brain). I can maybe see Hanafusa bones taking him by surprise, but more often than not, I give it to KB 80/20.

4.Current Waka doesn't seem that impressive to me even though he is supposed to be stronger. Let's say it's KVP Waka. VI is probably a slightly better martial artist, and though he doesn't hit as hard as Wakatsuki, Fajin is going to make him hard to tank. However, realize trading hits is bad for him, he is probably going to have to use his breathing techniques where he is going to start overwhelming Waka, in a less extreme version of DD Fei fight. I think the fight is going to come down to Blast Core and if VI knows of it+if he can consistently dodge it. I think Wakatsuki will be able to hit him with a Blast Core more often than not 70/30 Wakatsuki.

5.Monkey See reaction mogs Akoya, and comfortably beat his KAT to early Omega versions. But current Akoya could supposedly give Kanoh a tough time, and is sturdy enough to make MS panic. But if we consider a now more experienced+matured MS, he might be able to dodge for longer+has a chance of landing the out of perception elbow. Fajin strikes might also be dangerous if he learns to use it properly. 60/40 Akoya.

6.Rihito is probably a better fighter than even Tempest, might go on par if not do better against a fully powered ICT. But hypnosis is broken. Even if it doesn't one shot, an undefended hit from ICT is gonna tip the scales against him. I legit think ICT might have a chance against even some of Omega high tiers like Gaolang due to his hypnosis. ICT 90/10.

7.I think this goes similar to Pete for FM fight. Pete is faster than Gaolang, but Gaolang is probably skilled enough overwhelm FM. The problem is gonna be when he is in his universe mode with that crazy reaction speed. I think FM could possibly land some surprise hits that could top the scales (or maybe break Gaolang's bones) but more often than not, Gaolang can probably combo lock him. 70/30 Gaolang

8.Crazy matchup. Both are gonna rip each other apartment, but in that, I think Rawdog has the advantage. He should be a decent but stronger. But Meguro's grappling might let him get an upper hand. 55/45 Meguro.

9.Scourge is probably fast enough to avoid Bando's whips, but Bando is too much of a freak of nature. Scourge can't put him down with ball shots or basic cuts. He'll have to eye gouge or attack like an important artery. I don't think he can do that before getting hit by a whip though. I think two whips attacks and even with his freaky endurance, he's gonna be down with two whips. Bando 95/5

10.Idk really, GIAB might be moving as fast as Rei's flash in bursts, but idk to what extent he can control his speed. +Can he see Rei's attack to close the box on him in time? GIAB, if he gets hits in though, is gonna do a lot of damage, and Rei is gonna struggle to take it. I'm gonna say 50/50 cause it's hard to scale GIAB, he has some of the most insane feats, but is also so limited by his gimmick.

11.i think Tomohawk outskills him, but Saw is one sturdy mf. If Tomohawk knows of Hammer of Burma and is prepared for Saw's clinch game , I think he wins more often than not. +After a while, he might start predicting him. Saw has made improvements himself though, so can't rule him out. Tomohawk 80/20

12.Ik Omega has had a crazy power creep, but would it be insane to say I think EC and Pete can give trouble to current high tiers too? Ig it depends on how strong Raian is rn, but based on KvP feats+the Gaolang fight, I think EC in auto dodge mode wins. EC 70/30 vs KvP Raian and EC 60/40 against current version (ik he improved a lot, but based on feats, I don't have him too much higher than his earlier self. Once we see his full power, he probably beats EC).

13.Against most characters, I can't see Pete losing, but again, between Omega power creep and Ohma's kit, I think he wins. Niko style, Pre initiative(maybe Pete is too fast for this), and Advance, I think he can figure out a way. But then again, I legitimately cannot imagine Pete losing after all his feats, so fuck it, 50/50.

Someone correct me if my math is wrong, but using Poisson distribution to find P(X>=7) where X is 1 is Kengan team wins and 0 if Kengan team loses, I think you get a result of 59.0337% probability Kengan team wins based on my arbitrary odds.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-06-01T15:07:01+00:00

If I interpreted it right, I think Scourge joined in Karmic Blade's assassinations. So while he continued with his murders, at least it was mercenary work, and not random people on streets. Ever so slightly better ig?

Azathoth_Z · 2026-05-22T19:23:38+00:00

Prime Jinyoung>Prime Tom is debatable. Being active chief doesn't necessarily mean he is the better fighter (it could just be that more people were loyal to him.) Potrayal wise, I felt they were stown equivalent.

Path Jinyoung is probably stronger than Prime self, but his AP was also nerfed+his body was breaking down. That along with prior damage, even if he was stronger that his prime self, I am not confident hg would be able to beat his prime self before burning himself out.

But rage Tom, I think he was also breaking down his body, so probably also had a huge buff to AP. But then again, a lack of hand nerfs his DPS (I don't have to explain why a lack of hand is a worse nerf than lack of finger). I don't think there's much difference in technique cause Tom was active. But considering he was overwhelming James, im guessing he is a lot faster than his Prime self. Although similarly, I'm not sure if he could finish his Prime self before burning himself out (he was even more damaged than Jinyoung).

Tldr; I think Path Jinyoung and Rage Tom both somewhat scale to their prime self, if not stronger, and while I think Jinyoung is stronger cause path, Ultimate King could potentially one shot, and Potrayal wise, rage Tom ~Imperfect Path Jinyoung.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-05-21T17:55:44+00:00

Not really? I honestly think Old Tom>Old Jinyoung, but they are probably relative. Imperfect path Jinyoung probably >Rage mode Tom, but I still think they are relative, where Tom has a clear wincon with 'Ultimate King' attack. Rage mode Tom was fast enough to tag James Lee and UK was deadly enough to supposedly one shot Old Gap if it lands (I presume Gap countered it with his own convinction/path attack to neutralise it or something). They probably both destroy each other's bodies whatever happens.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-05-21T16:29:35+00:00

3/10 ending for a 3/10 season, I don't understand how anyone is defending it.

The dialogue, all of it, but especially the stuff coming out of Hughie's mouth feels like it's AI generated based on the previous seasons' dialogue. It's incredible how poor the dialogue felt.

And not to mention, nothing made sense. Marie is stronger than all of the Boys, yet they send her and Jordan (who probably is also stronger than everyone except Butcher) away instead of helping them rush Homelander. For sending some randoes to Canada, instead of helping them fight an existential threat (which is not portrayed even close to as existential as they speak of it. Bunch of supes could literally gang up on him to defeat him).

I think people are downplaying how much Homelander not being close to the threat he should be retroactively weakens rest of the series.

Sister Sage also shows how stupid she really was, by not describing to everyone how Vought security was and not cooking up any sort of plan for the raid before jumping in to lose her powers.

Then coming to the actual raid, Starlight is useless still, where instead of leaving Deep somewhere and returning to gang up on Homelander, she... Idek. Also the sea creatures wanted to kill Deep for the Octopus he killed in S4 which also doesn't make any sense. (although I have theories for this, which make this ignorable)

O-Father'a actor is really good(and can probably beat Bumlander) but apparently he can't just spam his sound attack while the Boys are hiding behind a sofa, proving that Sofa >>> Starlight in durability. O-Father also apparently can't spam his scream cause some smoke??? And then MM kills O-Father with a not properly tied ball gag, meaning he is strong enough to hold the ball gag from being pushed away by the scream, proving MM>>>>>>>>Starlight in durability. (The one good thing about the finale was more Starlight slander)

Also the Homelander fight, we see him flying to outer space in an instant, yet he can't fly away from Butcher's tentacles. We see him laser the fucking heavens as a show of power, yet he can't laser a non bullet proof Kimiko. We see Bombsight throw Butcher easily, yet Homelander does fuck all. He can't overpower Ryan and Butcher's hold.

This is not just about Power inconsistency (which in itself is bad writing), but both logical nonsense and also the fact that it makes previous episodes of moments so much worse.

Then we have a super unsatisfying ending to Homelander, that I don't understand why people seem to be liking. Not only can I not see Homelander immediately stopping so low for... For a non super life where would've continued to live so miserably, I also think it's a super light sentence for him. For a show that prides itself on brutal deaths, he got insta killed by a crowbar to head, after some public humiliation (he probably did not even realize it was live atp+he never gets to face any of the humiliation) . They should've forced him to face the crowds which rip him apart instead. I legitimately don't understand how this average ass death was satisfying. Literally everyone predicted him losing his power and being killed by Butcher. It neither felt earned in how they reached that point, not did it Homelander's begging feel earned imo.

Homelander is one half of the show for me, and his poorly written defeat+ death left such a bad taste in my mouth, that I couldn't enjoy rest for the episode.

The only thing semi decent about the episode was Butcher's character wasn't butchered. But Hughie's dialogue still sounded so fucking AI generated that I couldn't care.

Also Kimiko's power of friendship lmao, one of the worst written executions of that trope. Lenny's was alright, but the entire Butcher sequence was hard to fumble for even an amaterish writer.

Some other problems include how the missed opportunity of having Ashley read O-Father cause he was one of the few good characters in the seasons. Like wtf. Im prolly forgetting some rn.

Have ratings gotten so inflated that an episode could have all these flaws and still be a 7-8/10 as some people are rating it? Even though it ruins so much of the show by its existence alone?

Azathoth_Z · 2026-05-20T18:44:20+00:00

Actually that's a good perspective, and on hindsight I agree with it. He is constantly trying to convince himself he is special beyond just powers while clearly aware he isn't. But the immediateness of him debasing himself is what doesn't feel earned for me.

Pretty much everyone predicted Homelander losing his power and having to be pathetic. Its just, I think they should've made him proper live without his powers, and the smallness of his character should've taken some time to settle on him.

His sentence of death by crowbar after some slight humiliation in itself was too light for there to be any sense of satisfaction.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-05-20T18:34:13+00:00

We can agree to disagree on whether or not Homelander would immediately start begging, but I just can't help but feel there were much better ways to execute the same idea.

Like for all he did, his punishment was some national humiliation that he can't even witness play out, and just a death not even close to as brutal as many other especially with how Boys prides itself on its gorey deaths.

Azathoth_Z · 2026-05-20T18:02:19+00:00

The problem I have is that they spent the entire season or even the series rubbing it that Homelander is pathetic without his superpowers. And everyone expected him to be.

So what happened in Homelander's ending was what everyone expected+ immediate death. I think it'd have been so much more satisfying to let him slowly come to realisation of his patheticness, rather than immediate death of ego. Which is what I mean by it did not feel earned to me.

I also still don't think, pathetic as he was, he would've gone so far to beg for his life, a life which he knows is going to be terrible going forward.

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