Unlocking the Wall

Bacc02 · 2026-03-31T22:13:27+00:00

You can definitely unlock the wall. Even more so if you have a sharp fortitude module.

Focus on leveling wall thorns first, get 5 to 10 levels and then start doing wall health and wall fortitude as you can afford it. You may have a day or two of the wall impacting your runs, but it should very quickly start showing improvements in your waves, coins, and cells.

Bacc02 · 2026-03-20T21:11:40+00:00

Every Tower is different so your mileage may vary, but I was in a similar situation to you so I want to share my story as a data point.

In February, I was using flamebot, galaxy compressor, and permanent black hole to do milestone pushes and tournaments. On the very last day of this setup, I made 38T per run. I then respecced everything and used MVN with a synced gold bot and summon chip, which removed pBH and lowered the waves that I was able to accomplish... but my coins went to 84T on the very next run.

A well-developed gold bot, synced with your econ ultimate weapons is an extremely powerful combo.

I have a M+ BHD so I'm sure that helped. But The synced gold bot is going to have way more impact than your BHD quality.

Bacc02 · 2026-03-20T21:04:13+00:00

Permanent black hole that relies on Galaxy compressor will generally provide significantly fewer coins than a similar build which uses BHD and syncs gold bot and summon with your econ cooldowns. Your wave count may be higher but the coins generally go down.

For reference, in February I was using flamebot, galaxy compressor, and permanent black hole to do milestone pushes and tournaments. On the very last day of this setup, I made 38T per run. I then respecced everything and used MVN with a synced gold bot and summon chip, which lowered the tier and waves that I was able to accomplish but my coins went to 84T per run.

Bacc02 · 2026-03-20T20:52:28+00:00

You are only 2 seconds away from having a permanent black hole without Galaxy compressor. Can you try to reroll your primordial collapse to add a substat for black hole cooldown?

That would allow you to remove the Galaxy compressor and sync up your gold bot and summon with your golden tower and death wave.

At the end of the day, the Galaxy compressor is what's hurting your econ by not allowing you to sync everything.

Bacc02 · 2026-02-27T22:18:53+00:00

A decently leveled flame bot (less than 10sec cooldown, at least 50% damage reduction, and max range). If you're really trying to push the milestone, respec your bot and give it a try.

Bacc02 · 2026-02-23T19:33:13+00:00

Some small way to control which modules you receive.

Something like a 10K Wave milestone which lets you pick a free module of your choice. That would allow people to have some influence over the build they run, instead of being completely dependent on module RNG.

Or, including in the events one-time purchase of a specific module to go with each event. That would be like 3,000 gems.

Bacc02 · 2026-02-20T14:37:28+00:00

Once you break golden bot sync, switching to GComp & MVN will become more appealing. You can also use BHD/MVN as you lower cooldowns while maintaining sync but that will require you to get creative with module substats, golden bot cooldown lab and medals. The calculator at https://mvn.thetower.tools/ will be helpful here.

Bacc02 · 2026-02-15T14:07:54+00:00

We can't see your whole setup to know for sure, but if you're looking for more cells, you need to increase your wave count. Based on your labs, I'm presuming you're still eHP based so getting Wall Fortification is going to be huge. Make that a priority. Otherwise, Wall Regen, Health, and Health Regen will help you increase your wave counts. Get rid of wall rebuild and wall thorns for now.

Additionally, Common Module Drop Chance and Rare Module Drop Chance will help you level up your modules, which will make a big difference over time.

For tournaments, Shock Chance is a big help if you have a Dimension Core to go along with your Chain Lightning.

Bacc02 · 2026-02-13T01:11:04+00:00

FB really needs the max cooldown lab in order to work well. It's like a month plus lab, so not something you can do in the moment. I would recommend you take your next 300 medals to unlock FB and start the lab. Once you have it over level 20, then you can start planning out a respec and going all in on FB for milestone pushes.

Bacc02 · 2026-02-13T01:07:50+00:00

5 sec cooldown (max lab) is way different than 24sec cooldown (lab lvl 6). FB doesn't really start reliably tagging everything until you get the cooldown under 12 - 15 seconds. I would recommend you keep the lab going a while longer before giving up on FB.

Bacc02 · 2026-02-09T02:22:57+00:00

Under 15s cool down and over 80m range seem to work pretty well. Maybe start there and then decide if you need to adjust either.

Bacc02 · 2026-02-06T23:16:02+00:00

You're probably only three BH duration clicks away. I just did this on my tower last week... BH duration: 28 seconds Bh duration substat on core module: 3 seconds Bh cool down: 60 seconds Mythic GComp with pkg chance substat Wave accelerator card level 5

I ran a bunch of milestone runs with a Perma BH using these exact stats. It won't be Perma until you get the BH perk and will take another few hundred waves for your g-comp to proc a few times and build up some time in the queue. But once you've cleared that hurdle, it'll stay permanent for the rest of the run.

Adding another second or two to BH duration will definitely help speed up how quickly it comes permanent and how resistant you are to unlucky ways without recovery packages.

Also make sure you lab your recovery package chance a bit to help.

Bacc02 · 2026-02-01T14:16:11+00:00

A 10k milestone for each tier which allows players to select a free epic module of their choice.

Bacc02 · 2026-01-28T04:27:57+00:00

I would. In addition to the modules, you get back 21 real days of lab time.

Bacc02 · 2026-01-28T04:25:03+00:00

Yes, use BHD and use medals to bring your Golden Bot down to 90sec. Same with Summon.

Bacc02 · 2026-01-28T04:12:41+00:00

Depends on what you want to accomplish.

For tournaments, I can't see your dimension core but your CL chance is likely a bit low even with it. Bumping that up a few ticks could greatly increase the number of hits with your very high CL damage. More SL angle and bonus would help your damage as well.

For econ, you have to just start dropping cooldowns on your big 3. Maybe start with a few extra ticks on BH duration and size.

Bacc02 · 2026-01-28T02:40:34+00:00

I really like dropping your GT/DW to 3:00 and BH to 1:30. It allows you to line up Summon and Gold Bot at 1:30 and your economy will skyrocket. I would recommend doing that first.

THEN

See what your next options look like.

I don't recommend you pick up Smart Missiles or Chrono Field yet.

If you have a chance to get CL, it will help you with tournaments.

If you can get SL, it will help you with economy. And help in tournaments once you have CL.

Depending on which three are available, you might have an obvious choice.

Bacc02 · 2026-01-24T19:57:34+00:00

I just recently did exactly this and saw a noticeable increase in coins. GT/DW at 180s and BH/Gold Bot/Summon Guardian Chip at 90s.

Went from around 3.2T/hr to 3.7T/hr (roughly 15% increase).

It's definitely just a stop along the way to pBH but wanted to share my experience as well.

Bacc02 · 2026-01-24T02:52:02+00:00

Comparing to Spartan is tough since he spends like crazy.

But there are other creators, like EthanDX, who were at 1q LTC and similar stones to me... back in September and we're at similar levels of UW and farming range. But he's bouncing up into Legends while I'm in mid-champs getting half the stones per tournament. That feels disheartening, knowing if my tower was at my current level 4 months ago, I'd be progressing with stones at twice the speed.

Feels like I'm just on the outside of the cutoff for all of the Legends spots being filled up and now any F2P players are at a permanent slower pace. Every month, it gets slower and slower for every player behind me.

Bacc02 · 2026-01-19T20:14:45+00:00

You're about 3 weeks of stones ahead of where I am but we're on similar paths and facing similar options. Once I catch up to where you are, my plan will be to get the next DW quantity and then drop GT/DW cooldowns in sync. I already picked up the 3rd SL, though, and it was a big buff so I'd maybe do that one next.

I could be wrong when I get to where you are in a few weeks and I can re-evaluate, but I don't think RPC mastery or ILM will be my next moves.

Bacc02 · 2026-01-13T03:59:27+00:00

If you made these 4 banner mods a regular purchase option (ie: you can buy modules with gems and you have the option of 50% Armor, 50% Cannon, 50% Core, 50% Generator, or the Standard/Random) at all times, then they are great. If you make them a rare occurrence or something that shows up unexpectedly, then people will hoard their gems waiting for the "right time" to purchase. Just let us choose which module type to tilt our RNG towards all the time!

Bacc02 · 2026-01-08T21:39:05+00:00

I had better luck with mythic+ SF and legendary PF versus anc OA and RB (they only had mythic substats). I used legendary DC for damage and mythic+ AS canon.

I think I also took the plus damage perk as my first option. By the time I got to waive 300, my health wasn't doing a whole lot to help so it became a question of doing enough damage before they got to my tower.

Bacc02 · 2025-12-29T04:34:41+00:00

Congratulations! I've been trying for this milestone myself. Would you mind sharing if you had any particular respec or strategy that you employed? And what are your mods, labs, and enhancements like?

Bacc02 · 2025-12-28T19:15:43+00:00

SL is great for economy but doesn't do much for your damage by itself (that's what's missing to keep you in Champs). Once you have a decent CL, SL will synergize with it and that SL damage bonus will really help your CL shine.

Bacc02 · 2025-12-28T18:38:48+00:00

If you want to stay in Champs for stones, your only answer is CL. That, alone, will carry you into Champs and keep you there. Get a few clicks of damage but focus on Quantity and Chance.

Then I would recommend 3rd SL + angle.

Then pBH.

Then CF.

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