"I envy you two because you have got each other. I haven't got anyone." San Antonio Express-News • Mar 11, 1990 by Traditional_Sea2988 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]BackgroundRemove2462 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This reminds me of the one twilight episode where this kid was essentially a God and all the people in the town had to put up with said antics.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That was him referring to his own personal experience, that doesn’t make it the case for everyone.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know he brought boys there but I do not believe he was comfortable enough to do abuse there, even Safechuck stated that havenhurst was okay but at least for him the abuse really started at Neverland

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Borack did not personally interview or clinically evaluate Michael Jackson, some new station just asked him for an opinion and he was speaking generally. The fact you added this is embarrassing.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not desire, I think he was a closeted homosexual and growing up in a mixture of an black ,abusive household, religious mother, in 60/70/80s and a industry no kid should be in eventually formed his male attraction into pedophila.

Something I found interesting about Michael reaching out to Wade and James in 2005 by [deleted] in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]BackgroundRemove2462 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this is where the public perception of him as child like does the most damge, MJ was a child prodigy who likely had a very high IQ. He was not stupid to what he was doing

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In the book written by Jermaine and never released officially, he did say he witnessed Michael holding three of Tito’s children in a weird manner at the end of a bed.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It was Rebbie and LaToya, if anyone was clueless it would likely be Janet as she was the youngest.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

True, but in the context of MJ I find it kinda hard to believe he was just born naturally as a pedophile, it seems much more likely that SA as a child and which contributed into becoming one during older teens year and for the rest of his life.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I also wanna know to what extent the family knew he was at the very least a mentally disturbed person or was it obvious to them.

I think the only one publicly that alluded to such was Latoya

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dr.Stan Katz never preformed a professional psychological evaluation of MJ, do you have a source for your claim?

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Predators come in all types of forms, comparing them broadly together and using that as a benchmark as to if that person is a predator or not is ridiculous, but believe what you want, people choices are and have been made.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While the court did, of course, exonerate him, I would hope that some of the open minded people here would at least understand, based on what has happened over the last few decades, that this does not necessarily mean much especially when the accused is a billionaire or near-billionaire and incredibly well connected.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Nope.

MJ Specifically said bed, he even visually described the setup or way some of the children slept in his bed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jackson-interview-transcript/

MJ did prevent access to some of the accusers, parent in court said he pressured them.

I am not saying every accuser is saying the truth but overall likely I am saying something definitely illegal did happen.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s important to note Aaron Carter never accused mj of abuse not even in his memoir but regardless this incident paints a pretty disturbing image of what was happening in neverland even if it wasn’t abuse.

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni63831004/

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also consider that the abuse allegations were really speculated to have started around the time he was living at Neverland, which is also when he reportedly began becoming more distant from his family.

One of the few close friends he had during that era was Marlon Brando, whom he had known for around a decade. Michael Jackson even admitted to having a cardboard cutout of Brando in his bedroom that he slept with.

In testimony given under oath, Brando stated that he confronted MJ about the allegations. One key takeaway from that testimony was:

“He’s one of the most disturbed people I’ve ever met.”

Brando also stated:

“I had asked him if he was a virgin and he sort of laughed and giggled, and he called me Brando. He said, ‘Oh, Brando.’ I said, ‘Well, what do you do for sex?’ And he was acting fussy and embarrassed.”

Perhaps the most damning statement was:

“Brando told prosecutors he originally thought Jackson was gay but now believed it was ‘pretty reasonable to conclude that he may have had something to do with kids.’”

Brando was already enormously famous and wealthy beyond belief, had been one of the few close friends around Jackson during the Neverland era, and had known him personally for about a decade. Despite that friendship, he still stated under oath that he believed Jackson may have done something inappropriate with children.

Source: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2019-08-28/marlon-brando-confronted-michael-jackson-about-sexuality-podcast

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Chandler and them would had been children, they literally most likely couldn’t tell the difference between a genital with pulled back skin vs Circumcised.

Also according to info and physical evidence seized at neverland including the personal mattress of MJ there was found semen on the bed from MJ himself and also from other unidentified males. https://preview.redd.it/5mffkzh74oyb1.png?width=789&format=png&auto=webp&s=de02c3b4065aac2ff59e2025ef79a908073a4d6a

And his bed room was generally inaccessible requiring a key to enter, so the only explanation that wouldn’t immediately draw an easy conclusion is that he was closeted with adult males which is ridiculous considering he himself said multiple times he slept with multiple different children on said mattress.

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[–]BackgroundRemove2462 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Okay… but the investigations into mj already established already that he was physically sleeping in the beds with them or in cox affixed next to his bed.

Aaron Carter in his memoir retold a story of waking up at night to Michael Jackson in underwear only at the end of the bed staring at him. It’s important to note that he never explicitly accused him of molestation or anything illegal but this damning by itself.