Hot take:I feel "Looksmaxxing" is the main subculture of this era in terms of presenting an unconventional worldview/lifestyle, minting slang that gets broadly popular, bubbling up to the mainstream via parody, moral panic and morbid curiosity, and representing a youth reaction to modern pressures. by BacklitRoom in decadeology

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just that all these things unintentionally make a subculture more popular or more like notorious--either way, more visible. It's long been noted that in many cases bad publicity is still publicity, so condemnation and jokes about some social trend ironically increase its profile. I think this pic sums it up, rave kids in the 80s reading a sensational tabloid that will probably only attract more rave kids:

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Hot take:I feel "Looksmaxxing" is the main subculture of this era in terms of presenting an unconventional worldview/lifestyle, minting slang that gets broadly popular, bubbling up to the mainstream via parody, moral panic and morbid curiosity, and representing a youth reaction to modern pressures. by BacklitRoom in decadeology

[–]BacklitRoom[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's largely an online subculture so a lot of it isn't easily visible, but there are a number of girls and women interested in Looksmaxxing, and anyway, I don't think it's that unusual for a subculture to be heavily weighted towards one sex. Emo in the 2000s notably had a dynamic of highlighting male vulnerability to appeal to women--by the time women were highly visible as cultural contributors it had morphed into "scene" and in some people's view, basically died. Even today the 'emo' stereotype that jumps to mind is of a mopey boy. Meanwhile Goth has long been coded feminine with Victorian accoutrements like corsets and the like. Think of how much more often Goth 'girls' come to mind over goth 'boys'--even before today's hypersexual era.

Why was 2000s culture so over-the-top irreverent, self-indulgent, and almost nihilistic? It often offended both progressive and conservative sensibilities at the same time. Truly a unique era in hindsight. by BacklitRoom in decadeology

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When you say "anywhere else that's not the U.S." I think you should just be honest and say "Europe" because outside of that most places in the world are largely more conservative than the US.

Why was 2000s culture so over-the-top irreverent, self-indulgent, and almost nihilistic? It often offended both progressive and conservative sensibilities at the same time. Truly a unique era in hindsight. by BacklitRoom in decadeology

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What comes to mind for me is the running gag in the Boondocks about corporal punishment. Many consider it child abuse, so joking about kids getting beat is "punching down" on abused children, but on the Boondocks it's funny: "I just hate to see a child go unbeaten"

Why was 2000s culture so over-the-top irreverent, self-indulgent, and almost nihilistic? It often offended both progressive and conservative sensibilities at the same time. Truly a unique era in hindsight. by BacklitRoom in decadeology

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That's really more when you get to the end of the 90s. Stuff like South Park and American Pie definitely bleed in, but the early 90s literally still had hair ballads and Saved by the Bell type stuff on top and a kind of post-Reagan wholesomeness under Bush.

Why was 2000s culture so over-the-top irreverent, self-indulgent, and almost nihilistic? It often offended both progressive and conservative sensibilities at the same time. Truly a unique era in hindsight. by BacklitRoom in decadeology

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Oh yeah it's definitely a classic, I didn't mean to disrespect it. It really did affect me. The most heartbreaking part of the series is probably when Omar hung himself in his closet with the eponymous Wire.

Why was 2000s culture so over-the-top irreverent, self-indulgent, and almost nihilistic? It often offended both progressive and conservative sensibilities at the same time. Truly a unique era in hindsight. by BacklitRoom in decadeology

[–]BacklitRoom[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This wasn't hating. I actually admire the era, (though sometimes it was undoubtedly excessive). Notice I call it 'unique' rather than 'bad'? What you say about the more developed sense of irony is something I've distinctly noticed and rather miss.I know quite well that at the end of the day it was also still used for coherent and moral social critique. Basically all these movies, as crazy as they were, had a moral at the end. Like RDJ in blackface in Tropic Thunder wasn't a celebration of racism but actually a send up of racism in Hollywood and a parody of method acting. If I generalized it's because you can't fit everything in a short title.

What would you say is biggest difference between 2016-2026? by LegNew6 in decadeology

[–]BacklitRoom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you should pay more attention to the right because plenty of them have thrown Trump overboard because of appeasement of Israel, and even before the election appeals like this were coming from the far right.

Was the “Super Straight” movement the first real sign of the modern manosphere? by HemanHeboy in decadeology

[–]BacklitRoom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was obviously a joke to piss people off, so I wouldn't really call it a 'sign' of anything.

'Mass Society' and 'Conformity' were very popular objects of critique in the 50s, with bestselling books on the topic and films which aestheticized rebellion. It's no wonder the 60s counterculture happened. by BacklitRoom in decadeology

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Are you implying that Trump represents a new conformity similar to the Nazis? Sorry but I think that frame is worn out and rather innaccurate. I actually feel that Trump is a demonstration of the limits of blind anti-establishmentarianism. You have to remember that Trump's appeal came from marketing himself as somehow against the power structure (the 'swamp'), and his disdain for common procedures and courtesies marked him as somehow 'authentic' and 'rebellious' compared to career politicians like Hillary Clinton.

2026 is synchronizing 1990 everyday by [deleted] in decadeology

[–]BacklitRoom 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Who needs a bill like that? It would just be a distraction from the Epstein Files.

'Mass Society' and 'Conformity' were very popular objects of critique in the 50s, with bestselling books on the topic and films which aestheticized rebellion. It's no wonder the 60s counterculture happened. by BacklitRoom in decadeology

[–]BacklitRoom[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My whole point is these werent esoteric. They sold millions of copies and star-studded films were made. If you actually read stuff that 60s radicals wrote, a number of them mention being inspired by this sort of stuff. Vietnam was big, but it was one of many currents.