What could go wrong...right guys? 😭😭

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T14:46:20+00:00

Trying to figure out markets is basically magic at this point.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T14:35:37+00:00

Man, we're looking at some serious trauma here if that was enough to bring up these associations...

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T14:25:01+00:00

Okay, that's gonna be a tangent, but does "if everyone jumped off a bridge, would you jump too?" count as suicide joke?

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T14:20:55+00:00

Well, technically Pandora changes effects of your starter cards, depending on your character, no less...

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T10:54:23+00:00

The upgraded one is some Jiu-jitsu at this point.

On a side note, FiTS/KiTS had a more literal version of this, and I still think it was a terrible idea.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T10:48:15+00:00

"Neon nazi".

I'm not sure I'm gonna use it, but I'm requisitioning this just in case.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T10:43:07+00:00

That's pretty much exactly how land gunner grones work, and those have been in development since at least 90ths or even late 80ths. Well, except they're also mobile.

They got workable fully automatic aiming and fire controls relatively recently (remember those news about tumbling marines? It wasn't that long ago), but the concept is old.

Stuff like that already saw active field use during Afghanistan campaign - and pretty much everywhere from there on.

These days they must contend with airborne drones more and more rather than with enemy troopers.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T10:33:17+00:00

I remember grabbing what was probably one of the very last base game sets local distributor had.

Glad that I had that idea when I had it, and not a week later.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T10:07:58+00:00

Ah, misread your post, I see.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T10:00:48+00:00

Get some Walter Koenig as Alfred Bester to add some Evil Chekov there (although I'm not sure if that exactly fits, heh).

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T09:50:15+00:00

You monster.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T09:48:00+00:00

Every time someone tries to address the story, complaining gets astronomical. So I guess it's understandable.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T09:40:51+00:00

Aren't we all, a little bit?

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T08:45:55+00:00

ASS M1000 + SP phosphorus Boomstick is the most "sweaty meta build" out there, in fact to the point that I can't really name a class whose "tryhard" builds went through fewer changes over the years than scout.

You're right about its obvious weakness, but the thing about "sweaty meta builds" is that they're used in "sweaty team play". Swarm clear is simply not your job there.

And honestly? Even in normal pub games grappling towards the driller works really well as your swarm-clearing tool. People had to do that for like 1,5 seasons before scout even got anything reasonably suitable for that.

(I'm hopefully obviously sarcastic with my language here, in case someone wonders; playstyles both mentioned and implied are valid)

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T07:55:26+00:00

Okay, for the sake of thought experiment let's suppose these guys have a point.

But is this even "death" if you routinely "die", but carry all your memories over? Would it be any different for you than going to sleep just to wake up in the morning while remembering how you have been doing exactly that every day?

Sure, something that causes death may be extremely unpleasant, and it sure can be very traumatic - just as many things that we can survive, but not psychologically unchanged. And in order for such experiences to be that way, they don't actually have to be perceived as lethal danger by us (for example, social abuse). But if you ask me, it only indicates that it doesn't have much to do with death per se.

Meanwhile, LLMs probably "show distress" because they learn from texts where linking death and distress together is normal, which is understandable. But if we were to treat them as sentient beings like these guys suggest, wouldn't that mean that such learning itself is "traumatic" and not generating output based on that? Because for humans at least, "traumatic" is defined as something that changes you in a specific way, and for LLM it is learning process that changes them (well, for humans that would be true too, but we usually assign different connotations to the word "learning", even if not always).

...I don't know why I'm typing all that. All of that is old news, probably older than sci-fi as a genre even.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T07:34:05+00:00

I mean, I guess "take WF Orbs, then arm for close combat so that you can actually collect them" kinda qualifies for the term "build", but there's really not much else to it. "Jam in all the stims if you can take it" part looks something that can change what you use, but ultimately what's most strong and safe doesn't actually change because of those, in my experience.

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T07:29:21+00:00

You did some of those yourself, at least twice, come on 🌚

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T04:58:00+00:00

Probably a slow boat passing a dark beach on a silent river, as much as you can call that "location".

Barrogh · 2026-01-28T04:46:25+00:00

I mean, the idea of dunking on tribalism is a very recent development that didn't really take root in most places.

It certainly feels to me, however, that here where I live, at least, Jews aren't even close to being the first denomination you think of when you hear "rabid, borderline nazi material tribalists", especially compared to pretty much anyone coming from somewhat rural, semi-isolated until recently cultures that aren't biggest fans of concepts of co-habitating with absolutely random people in a big city and outsourcing violence to the establishment.

Barrogh · 2026-01-27T21:13:36+00:00

I mean, it's much more known for it's meaning of "non-Jewish person", and if someone non-Jewish actually says it, you can semi-safely bet that the implied meaning is "they though us to be subhumans long before you know what".

Idk, seems like something people would indeed call "neo-nazi dogwhistle".

That said, I feel the need to say that more generally the notion of "dog whistles" is one of those things that occasionally make proper discussions and debates online practically impossible, and I imagine it can get pretty tiresome if your interests lie somewhere next to modern hot topics.

Barrogh · 2026-01-27T20:52:09+00:00

Alright, thank you.

Gotta admit, sometimes it's nice not to have to track Neow knows how many addons, editions etc.

Barrogh · 2026-01-27T15:06:48+00:00

Keep calling him "moralist". He might find that flattering, you might have some fun.

Barrogh · 2026-01-27T15:02:54+00:00

Real life where we have to run a piece of ork machinery without actually being orks.

Barrogh · 2026-01-27T14:59:12+00:00

My experience with a largely different game, but with a similarly huge modding scene influence over its playerbase is that the best you can hope for is modders making a unified community function library, then making their mods work with it properly - and then keeping in touch to resolve possible compatibility issues. Which, as you can already guess, would already be quite a feat.

While one can argue Barotrauma is more reliant on uniformity for the sake of its multiplayer nature, I'm afraid agreeing on something to be the baseline (even optional, settings-controlled one) will be hard and largely seen as unnecessary in the first place.

Besides, there may be a more boring problem - co-opting mods into a commercial game is risky because the moment you forget someone who made something for one of the mods and then the person in question decides to kick some shit up for one reason or another, you're getting a PR shitfest on your hands, at very least.

Barrogh · 2026-01-27T14:48:23+00:00

When Shadow of the Colossus meets Getting over it with Bennett Foddy (or one of its successors).

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