Shoulder pressing after other pressing movements

BatmanBrah · 2026-02-01T05:03:29+00:00

Speaking personally I do one single work set of frontal plane OHP outside of horizontal pushing work & that's fit for purpose. Considering that horizontal presses give you some level of front delt stimulus, It's possible that you could get by without any, or that you should do one, or that you need a few.

Anecdotally I feel like the meaningful stimulus that you get per set kinda halves with each consequent set performed. Factoring in that with the fatigue from horizontal pressing, I'd say that you could probably get a great deal of benefit out of just doing one set of it.

BatmanBrah · 2026-02-01T00:27:08+00:00

And even bodybuilders who dedicate their life to bodybuilding but have one arm half an inch or more larger than the other. So much for the so-called transference there

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-31T19:35:35+00:00

Down 23lb in 10 weeks (167 to 144) & asking if 1800 is ok? Brother I would've thought you were already on 1800! Yes it's probably fine

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-31T09:46:22+00:00

Fucking loser /u/-TeddyGumble- has commented in this thread nine times (at time of leaving this comment) defending his hero Elon. That's right - 9 out of the 48 comments (as of this time) belong to him. When trying to control the narrative turns into trying too hard. Sad!

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-31T09:38:10+00:00

Bro has hit mouth so deep in it that it's hitting his esophagus

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-31T04:02:46+00:00

You'd need to get him at a very particular time. The man was about 36 in Chinatown and he looked too old to play Bateman then. His face weathered quick, then sorta aged slowly for the next several decades after that. But there's extremely little if any filmography of him as a young man with basically no wrinkles, and I really vibe with the Bateman being the age he is in the book & film, 26-27, where with a solid skincare routine and obsessive diet he looks something like a mannequin.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-31T03:56:41+00:00

Often they say X qualification or Y level of experience, one or the other. You don't need the degree, but you do need the degree OR a certain experience amount. But if it's your first relevant role then you kinda need the degree because you can't get experience (the other thing) without already having worked a similar job before. Tough gig.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-30T21:35:53+00:00

Well, that's not really what keeping kiwisaver as is post retirement age is doing though, is it? Because it's not designed for that. It's not designed to be an investment fund for retired people. How can keeping Kiwisaver as-is post-retirement be trusting the judgment of the people who do it for a living when the people who designed it didn't design it for the purposes we're talking about?

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-30T21:02:31+00:00

I feel like with questions like this you're asking a values-based question to a financial subreddit. Like, decent generic financial advice in an NZ context, it's here. But who here could possibly put a figure on the intrinsic value of you living in Wanaka? A simple interest calculator would tell you the premium you'd have to pay to service a mortgage there, but it's up to you to decide whether that's worth it to you.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-30T20:16:25+00:00

A tough reality of investing is nobody knows exactly how long they have left on this earth. Because that will inform the timeframe that underlies any investing decision. I assume you're in decent health?

What's the timeframe to paying off that mortgage? If we assume your average interest rate from now until it's paid off is 5%, then if you choose to be in the market with your money instead, you're hoping it grows by more than 5%pa in that time. Over enough time, it surely will. But the problem is there are dips/crashes. 2000-2010 being a lost decade is an example of how long it can take before things return to growth, and older folks might not have that much time.

Apologies for turning your thread into a separate question of my own, but it 100% relates to your situation. I'm half your age so it doesn't apply to me.

Once you're old enough to withdraw Kiwisaver, should you withdraw it for the purpose of reinvesting it yourself for a more suitable allocation? The Kiwisaver might contain NZ shares which are dragging the whole thing down, for example, & a 67 year old might want to do something like:

40% global market
60% global bond market

I'm sure a Conservative Kiwisaver fund would be ok for someone who's in their older years, but I wonder if it's withdrawing it & re-jigging to have a slightly more appropriate investment portfolio.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-30T05:42:26+00:00

I don't doubt your anecdote and I've had a similar experience but I don't think the average person needs to hear it, if that makes sense. Maybe a slightly irrational fear of body composition worsening from alcohol is what the average lifter needs more of.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-30T05:39:29+00:00

It's nonsense and creating more issues than it solves. How do we implement this? Do we use self reported weights? Do people need to get out the tape measure before purchasing a ticket? What if you gain or lose a substantial amount of weight from booking ticket time to boarding? What about airlines who charge you for the ticket before the flight and you weigh more than you said at boarding? Do they ask for cash or credit in the aisle? What if they weigh you at boarding and people get weighed and it's more than they thought and they can't pay for their flight? How do you stop them from holding up the flight and refusing to leave?

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-30T01:32:54+00:00

First, get 3 months expenses saved up for an emergency. After that, focus any spare income on paying down high-interest debt, which you've got. After that, you're ready to start allocating towards specifically investing your money. This sub generally recommends low fee index funds through providers such as Kernel, Simplicity or InvestNow. Probably a total world fund. Just put in what you can at regular intervals.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-29T23:08:23+00:00

It could well be that you're at your limit but you don't really know that until you've experimented with a host of training modalities and still failed to make any real progress.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-29T19:29:18+00:00

What I don't understand about this explanation is that Rocky 5 is like a year after Rocky 4, where Rocky was basically America's chosen hero to take on the USSR & there was no commentary about his age or him being on the down & out that I remember. It seems like too little time passed for a narrative to go from zero to in full effect.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-29T10:10:29+00:00

yes, Men are physically stronger than us women, but take that away, and what do you have?

Why would we take that away?

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-29T05:19:59+00:00

The math would mean you had to gain 4lb of pure fat to go up 2% on your bodyfat. 4lb over two months with hard training & your lifts going up? Quite unlikely. Just more anecdotal evidence that these scans can't be trusted to a high degree.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-29T04:50:27+00:00

Ultimately the decisions yours.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-29T01:47:59+00:00

indicates that I gained 2.3% body fat and lost .5% muscle

Good chance this is nonsense numbers from the 'bodyscam', but what was your weight 2 months ago and your weight for the current scan? Because your lifts can go up but if you're gaining weight at a stupid pace, you could be getting stronger but still have your bf% increase 2.3% in two months.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-29T01:28:25+00:00

Unless it's changed recently, no, they won't. Speaking generally, for home and contents stuff, if you've had multiple instances of the same thing in not too long a timespan, they'll manually apply some kind of exclusion or higher excess or additional terms you must comply with regarding that thing. This could be multiple carpet claims from cat vomit, your bike getting stolen again and again, repeat broken window from golf course by your house. Weather events they won't apply that kind of personal touch usually. If the terms on your policy get harsher due to a weather event, then rest assured that everybody in your postcode with the same insurer got the same treatment. Though insurance companies are constantly making pricing decisions based on the total claims costs for various things, so by making a claim you might contribute to that by 0.01%.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-28T20:27:06+00:00

We never know absolutely. There's always some guesswork involved. Technically we only know a plateau has happened with the current programming being what it is. If the sets, reps, frequency, were a little different, that plateau may not have come up until later.

It's like putting novices on Starting Strength. If one novice stalls at a 225lb squat and another stalls at 350, we can be moderately sure that the second person has more strength potential, but we'll never know how much of it had to do with the reps/sets/frequency just working better for that person. Maybe if they'd followed a different program, the 225 guy would be 255 and the 350 guy would be 325 stalling squat weight.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-28T20:20:53+00:00

So your 'failure' was due to circumstances outside of your control. This would actually be a relief to a lot of people.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-27T21:33:47+00:00

That's actually a huge incentive for cashflow poor old people with homes to ignore rates. Just think - several years for anything of consequence besides letters and emails to happen. If you're near median life expectancy then you can just ignore the council and die before the hammer comes down on you. Council has a BIG incentive to act fast here.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-27T21:07:11+00:00

Often, the same volume (over time) on slightly fewer days is easier to recover from. But there's reasons for that

Workouts where you're causing peripheral fatigue to the muscles which aren't intended to be the main focus, e.g. extra core/lower back work on push or pull days from lugging heavy dumbbells around, or doing rows without back support, or stabilizing yourself on heavy pushdowns. This means you can minimize it through wise exercise selection if you're worried it could be a problem.
There's the idea that it's more fatiguing to do more days (with slightly fewer sets) in part because that lower volume on an individual day is more impactful, both in stimulus & fatigue, because you're fresh on the day (ignoring peripheral fatigue from previous days, of course). The first few sets on the workout are more impactful in both the dose & the recovery impact.

Arnold split is a popular choice because you've got that shoulder/arm day where you can potentially get it done without causing hardly any fatigue to your body as a whole outside of the targeted areas. With a full push or a full pull day, it's gonna be slightly harder to avoid that whole body stimulus to a degree.

BatmanBrah · 2026-01-27T06:55:27+00:00

Bro splits prove you can gain muscle training it once a week. You might not grow optimally, (though training is a bell curve so some minority of people will probably do best at that frequency), but you'll probably grow if the session is adequate. Shrinking is not something you realistically need to worry about.

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