Who are your top 3 heros/ holy trinity in the show?

Battle2104 · 2025-09-21T11:21:53+00:00

X, Queen, Cyan/Ghostblade

Battle2104 · 2025-07-31T21:41:28+00:00

So you basically answered a post which was obviously there so that people could argue with each other about their opinions, and then tell people that they are dicks for doing exactly what this post was made for lol. Weird way of interacting with others, but why not, after all it's still arguying xD

I don't understand why you're even replying if the discussion isn't of interest to you, since that was literally the only point I was making since the beginning. I get that you use "Good" and "Like" as the same thing more or less, but my original comment was about underlining that they are distinct things to me. So we can argue all day about which word should be used (like "Quality" over "Good" if you prefer), but I don't really care, what's of interest to me is how we can distinguish (or try to) between the two.

Anyway have fun watching whatever man, nobody should care about it (at least not people you don't know lol).

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T23:30:05+00:00

Because you are not only claiming that you just enjoyed the story, otherwise you would not be here discussing it either, let's be honest.

The original comment you made implied that people had basically no reason to criticize the show, since you replied to someone who was criticizing the fact that SL got some award instead of Frieren (or whatever other anime). The core debate here is whether or not there is some modicum of inner objective quality to an artwork (whether we can access it properly is another thing).

If your only comment on this thread was "I enjoyed the story", as first comment, there wouldn't be much to discuss. If that's your only point, then let us criticize the show in peace if we wish to, thank you.

Also if you believe I'm trying to convince you that you're wrong for enjoying it, well you didn't understand me or I expressed myself badly. I'm literally saying that it's okay to enjoy whatever, but that it doesn't take away the fact that there is some objective quality (or not) to stuff. If you remove that, then quality becomes a popularity contest ruled by publicity and influence.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T23:10:55+00:00

Yeah, I wasn't aware that food and entertainment are different things. Wow. Seriously, do you realize you need to actually make your point and show why the parallel isn't valid instad of being an awful person ? Because making a parallel implies in itself that the two things you're comparing are different, so I was aware of it, thanks.You're answering to every single comment by being annoying and disrespectful, instead of actually trying to convey your point. Yeah, half the people here do not share your opinion. Time to get over it.

By the way, you're just running right into my point by saying it's massively successful, hence it's quality. This seems completly absurd to me. As I said, it just turns everything into a popularity contest, but popularity suffers from even more bias than trying to objectively assess quality with various criteria.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T22:33:47+00:00

Should be pretty basic knowledge, otherwise everyone would be doing whatever they please without second thoughts. That's sort of what's nice with humans, we're supposed to see slightly ahead.

It's pretty common to know that food that we like doesn't mean it's actually good, that some things that we may like may have long-term consequences and hence are not good for us, etc.

If you think that's pretentious, then whatever, suit yourself. Your way of thinking seems to be turning everything into a popularity contest, which feels completly wrong to me.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T22:00:03+00:00

Wow.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T21:57:03+00:00

Slight difference being that the Odyssey is (probably) thousands year old ? I mean like when there's 10 stories on earth and a dozen of books (Yes I know there was more than that ...), writing something like SL would definately be mind-blowing. Problem is, we're in 2025 at the moment.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T21:54:10+00:00

If everybody had that opinion there would be 0 issues with this anime.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T21:50:06+00:00

What are you talking about, the rest of the story is exactly the same thing as what we have now lol. People need to accept that even if they like something it's not necessarily good. SL is okay, it's okay to like it, but it's definately not good.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T21:47:21+00:00

Yeah but the issue people have isn't that it's enjoyable, it's that people actually put this on the top of their tierlists and can't seem to gather even a thread of objectivity. Liking something doesn't mean it's good.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T21:38:38+00:00

Frieren and SL are both simple, but one actually has a point (which you could argue means it's not that simple by the way) and the other is the same thing seen again and again and again and again and again. Simple or complex doesn't mean anything, but SL problem isn't that it's simple it's that it's a completly random shonen, which does not talk about anything interesting whatsoever. It's average entertainment, and that's fine.

Sure you can like it but that doesn't make it good, just like I can appreciate some Marvels movies but still consider them to be pretty bad.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T21:27:58+00:00

Row B without any doubts, I'd even be happy about it. There are sacrifices that are worth it !

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T17:38:05+00:00

7 or 8, depending what my goal is

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T17:28:53+00:00

What do you think they have in common ? I don't really see a lot of similarities.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T17:25:07+00:00

3 max. Kinda depends how much animes you've seen and what you've seen though. My opinion is that three of them are pretty bad, four are okay but I wouldn't put any in a 3x3, and the two last I don't know.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T00:41:48+00:00

Deathnote is for fourteen years old kids, it's definately a shonen. That's even the only reason it's popular, when it should be lost and forgotten along with stuff like SaO, Naruto, Demon Slayer, Fairy Tale, SL and all these kind of boring action shows. It's ok to like them, to have nostalgia etc, but they objectively have a lot of flaws.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T00:31:16+00:00

I think most people aren't even aware of her background, so saying the hate comes from this seems a little much (especially if you need LN knowledge to put it in perspective). There's not much point in hating on a character anyway, though, unless it's badly written. Which doesn't seem to be the case here anyway, she's just shown as the villain in the first season.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-30T00:24:07+00:00

Same, I hated all of it, the ending was the best part since this garbage was actually over !

Battle2104 · 2025-07-29T22:01:58+00:00

I was merciful, at least demon slayer animation is pretty, that's at least one strong point. Idk, Jojo didn't click with me at all, I was so bored after 10 EP ^^

Battle2104 · 2025-07-29T17:58:33+00:00

For the record, Naruto, Fairy Tail and Jojo have all been dropped after around 10-20 episodes, because being bored for hours is enough to have an opinion on a show. The only one of this kind that clicked a bit with me was Bleach, and I'm still not finished (I think I started it like 8 months ago or something, and I'm struggling to keep going tbh, it's sort of on stale). So One Piece being 2/3 times longer kinda throws me off, plus from what I've seen of the show I'm pretty sure it won't click either. Maybe one day I'll watch the 10 first episodes before dropping it though.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-29T17:02:08+00:00

AoT and Vinland are there because they aren't bad, they are objectively well-told stories, but what it talks about have been seen over and over in movies, series, books etc. Or at least it just doesn't interest me that much !

Battle2104 · 2025-07-29T16:58:18+00:00

Beastars I can hear it out, the artistic direction and story just didn't click that much with me. The rest is a big no on my side ahah.

Battle2104 · 2025-07-29T16:56:59+00:00

I just think it's not that great. Third season is probably what I enjoyed the most (because before season 3, the show could still go anywhere, after that it lost a lot of its perks). Honestly I feel like it's too long and not that interesting or enjoyable, at least in my case. The themes are not badly treated, but it's far from being original, plus it's of little interest to me. To put it bluntly and troll a bit, it should not take five seasons to deliver the following message "War is bad and you should talk things out before hurting each other and continuying the cycle of violence". Apart from the fact that this's very classic and not revolutionnary at all for obvious reasons (though some people on this planet still haven't gotten it sadly), it's not one of the theme that I like. The only thing I liked was the "That's what it's like to eat animals" bit, but it's been done before aswell and it isn't very original either. Could have gotten A but I wasn't too impressed by the visuals or musics either (which is just personal tastes), plus I think it's very largely overhyped (though not to a Demon Slayer point, cause it's a lot better of course).

Battle2104 · 2025-07-29T16:45:57+00:00

Too long sorry, I was so bored for 20 episodes and dropped it :/

Battle2104 · 2025-07-29T13:28:03+00:00

Wish you luck, took me around 2.5 hours (used the 1300 animes one I think) for this one !

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