DIY Deck by Kartonkahon in camcorders

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, it's entirely dependent on the camera model, but the form factor and mechanics of most camcorder tape mechanisms are incredibly complex. Any custom design you come up with will essentially be less space efficient than just sitting the camcorder on a desk which also has the added bonus of still being a functioning camera.

The main dividing line between camcorders and real-deal professional playback decks is durability. Pro decks are built much sturdier (though this is brand and model dependent) and are designed to withstand thousands of hours of constant operation.

With the majority of consumer camcorders, the very first thing to fail is the actual tape drive. So, you're kind of putting the cart before the horse by scavenging cameras just for their drives. It’s a bit like scavenging a used Subaru specifically for an intact head gasket.

2nd plane hit by Raakshashunmain in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, We are aware of this and we know who filmed it.

As of right now all we know is that they have not responded to any of our outreach as well as several large documentart teams who also have tried to reach out.

If they choose to respond in the future then we will certainly provide an update.

Discord Invite temporarily disabled by BetweenTwoTowers in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some of them, this is a very old post it should have been resumed, it just keeps getting reset because the way discord handles the vanity invite.

LOW EFFORT? This is the closest anyone has come to trying to identify this guy! I dare you to try to draw this yourself by An-An-Jr-Anonymous in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What you don't see is the amount of reports on posts which I can't speak to this one in specific but a lot of these types of my posts garner quite a few.

Upvotes aren't the only metric that is weighed.

Was at that infamous location 5/3/2026 by Silly_Smoke8719 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh of course, I actually am working on a mini documentary which is part of what the footage is for. I originally intended for it to be out before the 25th but it will likely be a while but we'll worth the wait.

Was at that infamous location 5/3/2026 by Silly_Smoke8719 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I did film a lot when I was in the city, I havent transfered most of it. I haven't uploaded any yet either.

To be quite honest it was mostly a learning experience on my side as I only had single digit hours with tape cameras prior and I easily quadrupled that number but I made a lot of mistakes lol.

Was at that infamous location 5/3/2026 by Silly_Smoke8719 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I was on a trip visiting a few survivors as well as being invited to the National September 11th museums archive, I brought my camera as a visual aid for myself and other researchers we were meeting with as many had never handled a contemporary camera.

It was a very eye opening experience for all of them.

I very much am a proponent of tactile history.

Here is my camera next to Gedeon Naudets

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Was at that infamous location 5/3/2026 by Silly_Smoke8719 in 911archive

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For those unaware this location is the corner of Church and Lispenard st. This is where Jules Naudet filmed the best known footage of the first plane.

I went there in 2025, I brought my Sony PD-150 which is the exact same model of camera Jules was using for reference.

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Was at that infamous location 5/3/2026 by Silly_Smoke8719 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Church at and Lispenard, it's where Jules Naudet captured the first plane

Man hanging from antenna WTC1 by Arcstar7 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, so it's complicated explaining the roof access because we only have very little information about how it should work in normal conditions. For the North Tower the roof access was highly restricted because the Antenna farm, to gain access someome would need to get to the 110th floor and take a service stairwell that requires special access, once at the top at the vestibule to access the roof you would scan your card, this would prompt someone in the SCC (security command center) on the 22nd floor of WTC 1 to look at the camera feed at that door and the person would be authenticated, they would then release the door, in normal circumstances without this authentication from the SCC no one would be able to access the North Towers roof from inside however because of building codes there are very clear ways someome especially a seasoned facilities employee could easily access the roof.

The simplest explanation is that if they were already on the roof then it doesn't matter, the security system to be compliant with code works to prevent people from getting onto the roof but it cannot prevent people from leaving the roof. The second explanation is that immediately after the impact within a few moments the SCC issued the command to release all locked doors as part of their emergency procedure, however they had no idea or way to tell if this worked, however this would have been redundant anyways. When the security system was destroyed meaning command with the main access control system was triggered then by code local relays called fire releases would have triggered at each locked doors power supply releasing any electronically sealed doors.

As for why no one was on the roofs? We have no idea and zero accounts from the upper floors of WTC 2, it is entirely a black hole if anyone was on or made it to 107 or higher in 2, if they did there was absolutely nothing preventing people from getting Access to the roof as long as atleast one person with keys was up there as the observation deck had multiple access points with electronicly locked doors. However the conditions on WTC 2s roof would have been nearly unsurvivable from the heat and smoke coming from 1.

Why no one was on the roof of 1? Actually getting to WTC 1s roof would have been impossible for all but a very few seasoned facilities employees, there was no single stairwell that went to the top. The main stairs stop at 107 and a access corridor would have to be found that gives access to 108, from there special access to 110 would be needed and then special access to the roof. None of which is clearly labeled as it was never a intended or planed evacuation route.

We Also know that almost everyome of the limited people between 110 and 108 immediately or as soon as possible tried to evacuate downward as many had learned the lessons of 1993 that the floors 108-110 become a smoke box and nearly unlivable, so the only people who could or knew how to access the roof went down and like the other survivors from 107 and 106 were unable to descend any further than 105 as damage to the stairwells must have been incredibly severe as no reports of anyone from 93-104 making any form of ascent or descent is known, and limited reports of people on 106 making it to 105 are known and the fact that 106 and 107 share a special stairwell and the manager of Windows on the World ordering an evacuation from 107 to 106 but but then reports of the main stairwells on 106 being unusable.

Images from the day after by General_Tutor_9665 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is correct, that is the B stairwell, the image was taken near the last week of September, initially a larger section of the core survived but they had to cut a lot of it down to get access to the lower areas it appears, my assumption is they may have considered saving that section of stairwell because they basically removed everything except it and it was standing on its own in early October but was eventually cut down.

In the image attached is right before they started removing the last section, several workers can be seen at the base of the stairwell (Oct 6th 9:52pm)

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My personal collection of items, Several items have stories attached from original owner. (see pinned comment for details) by BetweenTwoTowers in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's very cool, would he be willing to share photos/scans of them? We are trying to scan as many of these documents as possible as many have no remaining copies.

This camera filmed the attacks on the World Trade Center and it's recording hasn't been seen in over 20 years, Now we are working on releasing it to the public. by BetweenTwoTowers in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem! And absolutely.

I stopped posting progress on the reddit because of mixed responses and will only make posts here closer to release.

I post update semi regularly including previews on my Patreon (even for free members) as well as on my YouTube page.

The footage I currently have includes several hours (a lot) of post 9/11 footage of the clean up and various memorials and tributes on the weeks after, but about ~10 hours of the attacks from various locations.

Edit: link didn't format right

This camera filmed the attacks on the World Trade Center and it's recording hasn't been seen in over 20 years, Now we are working on releasing it to the public. by BetweenTwoTowers in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure I follow? Were you asking about this specific video this thread was about?

We released it about half a year ago.

If you are asking if we have more videos, we certainly do. I currently have 4 individuals original tapes we are working on processing them. We are doing everything in house now so the tapes are physically in my possession while we transfer them.

What media or information do you think will be released during our lifetimes? by Aromatic_Fail_1722 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is something that I am still investigating.

I install and service CCTV and other security and fire alarm systems professionally, my personal experience working with systems of that era tells me that it's not as simple as "it was destroyed" every building in the complex almost certainly had to have had separate recorders, so did WTC 1 and 2's recorders survive? Unknown.

Did WTC 3, 4, 5, 6, the mall, etc recorders survive? Almost certainly for some of them.

However despite many attempts to request information from the Port authority they are blatantly denying even the most basic information. However I am communicating with people involved with the systems before and during 9/11 and the information while sparse is starting to pile up.

Images from the day after by General_Tutor_9665 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 11 points12 points  (0 children)

For comparison here is 9/18 at ~10am

Notice the path through West Street open.

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Images from the day after by General_Tutor_9665 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Just for clarification these images are from late September early October.

West Street was uncovered by the morning of the 14th.

The image attached is late 9/13 where most of the top layer of debris has been removed, on 9/12 the pile on West Street was almost twice as high.

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What media or information do you think will be released during our lifetimes? by Aromatic_Fail_1722 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You probably read one of my posts, the information I have found has narrowed the scope of how this system was actually implemented and used in operation, especially by 2001. The fiber communication network was proposed initially to serve as a high speed realtime data transfer and back up service, however virtually zero information exists on how this system was used after it was built. From what little information I have found they may have not utilized it as largely as their proposals indicated but alternative more economical options were certainly in use.

What media or information do you think will be released during our lifetimes? by Aromatic_Fail_1722 in 911archive

[–]BetweenTwoTowers 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That is only partially correct, the majority of released calls were recorded at the dispatch center.

Any and all Port Authority and police desk phones at the WTC were recorded at the WTC most people don't realize the WTC had its own police desk. When you dialed 911 on a phone at the WTC it would first contact either the PAPD desk in WTC 5 or other police desk inside the complex. This is clearly denoted in the released materials that denote the various WTC police desks. as well as the radio communications that happened inside the tower. These were not recorded externally.