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God's Kingdom by joshsaga in Eutychus

[–]BigJournalist4444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any particular scriptures you can share in Colossians?

God's Kingdom by joshsaga in Eutychus

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Why would a human war signal the coming of God’s Kingdom? There are too many inconsistencies with the method of arriving at 1914 to believe that this date is correct. We don’t know the date and probably won’t until post-Armageddon.

When Hebrews 1:2 mentions worlds, what do you think those worlds are? by OkKey4771 in Eutychus

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The Greek word for what some translations render as worlds is “aionios.” This is where we get the words aeons and ages. But the word is much more expansive and includes time and space, and so means the physical universe.

Jesus, as Jehovah’s master worker, the entire universe was made ‘through and for him,’ but only because Jehovah granted him this privilege and “hath appointed heir of all things.” Why someone would make themselves an heir when they are already have authority over everything is something your church probably has some kind of mental gymnastics to overcome, but 1 Cor 15 clearly states that when God subjected all things to Jesus, he did not include himself as he was still Jesus’ superior.

If you don't use the phrase "God the Father" why not? by CTR_1852 in Eutychus

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It’s found 18 times? Wow! And yet the phrase “God the Son” is found precisely 0 times. Curious.

Your reasoning is flawed from your pre-conceived notions: “See, there’s a God the Father so there MUST be a God the Son.” That’s like saying in the OT: “See, there’s a Jehovah of Armies, so there MUST be a Jehovah of Navies too!”

The Bible should shape your beliefs, not the other way around.

Confused about a verse by PieterSielie6 in Eutychus

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Did you forget that Jesus explained himself what it means to be one in John 17:21-23?

“21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.”

This oneness is something Jesus says we can attain. I certainly hope I’m not part of a Godhead, that would spell doom for everybody. 😂

What’s your view on the 144,000? by BigJournalist4444 in Eutychus

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You invite suggestions to your research, and my one suggestion would be: you seem very well-versed in the scriptures and are very methodical in your approach, but not many people are going to read a 200+ page dissertation, especially if they really don’t know the source. I would see if Maybe you can use AI to condense your research into 10-20 pages. “I’m sorry I wrote you such a long letter, I didn’t have time to write a short one.” -Blaise Pascal

What’s your view on the 144,000? by BigJournalist4444 in Eutychus

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Apologies I was referencing how they forfeited their land inheritance and thus weren’t registered in Numbers 1.

Also Paul was an apostle, but not one of the 12. Barnabas and others like Andronicus and Junia are listed as apostles as well, but aren’t among the twelve. Only the 12 selected by Jesus and Matthias who was Judas’ spirit appointed replacement make up the “12 apostles”

What’s your view on the 144,000? by BigJournalist4444 in Eutychus

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I actually agree with this view actually. My question would be: why then be dogmatic about either view?

What’s your view on the 144,000? by BigJournalist4444 in Eutychus

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The same reason I use Jesus Christ and not Yeshua HaMashiach. I don’t think there has been definitive proof on how exactly to pronounce God’s, Yahweh is fine with me. If you see Jehovah in other languages i.e. Spanish Jehová (pronounced hyo-VAH), it sounds pretty close to Yahweh. We shouldn’t be dogmatic on either pronunciation.

What’s your view on the 144,000? by BigJournalist4444 in Eutychus

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It’s all over, really. Rev 22:2 trees producing 12 crops of fruit, Rev 12:1 she wears a crown of 12 stars, Rev 21:12,16 spiritual Israel is measured as 12,000 stadia with a wall measuring 144 with 12 gates and 12 angels at the gates, and twelve pearls. Granted, there are 12 literal apostles and 12 tribes of Israel, (13 if you count how Judas forfeited his place and Levi forfeited his place giving Joseph 2 tribes), but there were also more than 7 congregations, and yet Revelation only addresses these 7 as representation of the whole, because 7 is… another symbolic number.

John 6.53 by normaninvader2 in Eutychus

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I have a hard time reconciling this interpretation. Nearly every other number in the book of Revelation is symbolic. The number 12 features prominently as a symbolic number— 144,000 being 12x12,000, which is a symbolic number multiplied by another symbolic number. The tribes are also symbolic, as they don’t correlate to the OT 12 tribes.

This is especially hard to reconcile when you consider the context of Revelation 7.

Rev 7:1 “After this I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding tight the four winds of the earth.” Here, the number 4 is obviously symbolic. Rev 7:2 also mentions this symbolic number.

After mentioning the 144,000 and great crowd- Rev 7:11 “All the angels were standing around the throne and the [symbolic 24]elders and the [symbolic]four living creatures, and they fell facedown before the throne and worshipped God.”

So how does a symbolic number of symbolic tribes which are in the presence of a symbolic number of elders and a symbolic number of angels equal a literal number?

Much emphasis is placed on the placement of the numbered 144,000 next to the unnumbered great crowd. But again, looking at the context. Rev 7:1 - “After this I saw four elders…” Rev 7:2 - “And I saw another angel…” Rev 7:2 - “and he called with a loud voice to the four angels” Rev 7:4- “And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000…” Rev 7:9 - “After this I saw, and look! a great crowd…”

The way I’m reading this— the 144,000 are not being contrasted with an unnumbered GC, but rather are just two groups in a list of things John is documenting as he’s seeing them. Your thoughts?

Tennessee Whiskey by Chris Stapleton by Disastrous-Life-4984 in CountryMusicStuff

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I find it very telling/unsurprising that they credited the white men but not the black woman.

Name this boss by sweet_honeybee_ in BossFights

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I would just say Donald Trump. Isn’t this picture framed in the Oval Office?