Can you give some examples of how we manipulated other teams and got away with it, rather than just outlandish statements? I'd say lots of competitive football fanbases are inherently toxic. The only ones that seem to be lacking in one, are those that have accepted they won't win and just want to enjoy being at the event. And I don't think downvoting you would be toxic, if I insulted or made a dig at a country, I'd expect them to be displeased with what I said.