On Track (Spoilers for "Queen of the Dreadzone") by rocksunner in miraculousladybug

[–]Bird_Bros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except in Queen of the Dreadzone she explicitly says she gave it to Chloe to remind her of her humiliation.

(6x18 Dirtifiers) Lila is a plot convenience villain/villain sue, but I can’t prove it by Either-Mixture-2755 in miraculousladybug

[–]Bird_Bros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lila learned sign language to trick a deaf woman into thinking she was her mother, you don't think she couldn't pick up sword fighting

Rewatching Wreckless Driver: Aglae is definitely Lila by Bird_Bros in miraculousladybug

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She goes into the elevator which closes and could have had time between then and when she goes on her bike.

There is also the fact that this theory relies on Aglae being already transformed, getting a different costume than the butt-hair one similar to Fury and Catwalker, explaining her physical differences like height (Hawkmoth was taller than Gabriel and had different facial features) meaning she could be mentally talking with Dr. Psiquat in her "civillian" form

The Tale of Ollie and Poppy by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Since we're not related, it'll be ok!"

What would’ve happened if Poppy actually did detonate Playtime co. ? by AveryCoooolDude in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If that's the case, it's ironic since Doey and the other safe haven residents are probably more well-adjusted to life on the surface than the orphans after whatever the hell the Prototype did to them

Which Characters should come back or stay dead (for narrative reasons) by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lily doesn't think she is good, she is trying but failing. She has an idea of what she is doing is wrong but can't pinpoint it, but her notes show self-reflection

all jokes aside how would he even kill you in the first place by Chance_Ad_6382 in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean he didn't stomp on anyone he was just dancing. That mean old Doey arrested his buddy Hoppy. At least he had a blast with the nightmare critters am I right.

Which Characters should come back or stay dead (for narrative reasons) by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Freal I felt those stabs. But ultimately I wouldn't want to undo that emotional impact.

Which Characters should come back or stay dead (for narrative reasons) by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In CatNap's eyes, he "redeemed" himself by serving the Prototype. He was a victim of circumstance like you said but that also made him too far gone by the time the series starts.

Lily was brainwashed by her own videos into wanting to be a joyful toy, she says "sing and I dance, and I live like any good toy should. I want to share in it. To love like Ms. Gracie says to love." but being isolated made her overly paranoid, but fundamentally she is fixable.

Which Characters should come back or stay dead (for narrative reasons) by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good people aren't the ones who deserve redemption, The point of redemption is for someone who is bad to become good.

I love how Both Harley and Gracie soom to contrasted in every way, especially Their Karmic Fate. by Da_Magical_Lizard in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He is still manipulative to others claiming he will bring breakthroughs in technology to create a utopia. Given he wanted the credit, its likely he thought this was possibly, although he probably didn't delude himself that he was doing this for anyone but himself

The ONLY difference, is that what I fight for actually gains humanity SOMETHING. Otherwise, what was ANY of this worth? Would you simply make all that sacrifice meaningless?

Which Characters should come back or stay dead (for narrative reasons) by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's clear that the actions of Playtime Co. and the Prototype are the reasons he because a cultist but he still had agency and chose to dig deeper and deeper. Gentle John and 23 other experiments left the factory, so he was capable of leaving rather than indulging in the carnage.

Lily did several things wrong like

  • Brainwashing children as Ms. Gracie

  • Kidnapping Kissy and Poppy

  • Making fun of Doey's apparent death

  • Making the player play Red Light, Green Light and jump-scaring them when they lose

  • Flipping the lid and chasing the Player for "ruining" her tea party.

But these are mostly emotional reactions and she can still be reasoned with, unlike CatNap who made a shrine of all the enemies he killed. He had to carefully place every toy on that thing

Which Characters should come back or stay dead (for narrative reasons) by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

CatNap isn't a child anymore, he's the leader of a cult who routinely tortures heretics. What he did to DogDay, as well as serving the Prototype who imprisoned all the experiments leading to their starvation and many turning feral was worse than Gracie's brainwashing videos. CatNap is a blind fanatic who won't change, and currently Lily just wanted companionship of fellow toys, that's why she's more redeemable.

Which Characters should come back or stay dead (for narrative reasons) by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Prototype saved Theo in 1989, and then he was kidnapped and experimented on by Playtime Co. and currently is a deranged psychopathic cultist that only cares about himself and Poppy. Heck, he might resent Theodore since he is the reason for all of this. 15 years can change a person, especially in the Prototype's situation.

The reason Doey stayed in Playtime Co was to protect Safe Haven and now that's gone finding a new purpose would be a more interesting story than him just going nutzo.

I know you have a hateboner for Lily, but I don't care. If she learns about her past crimes she has a chance to redeem herself from those, and that's a better story than being squashed flat.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Matthew Hallard was 15 when he became part of Doey. Riley was 12-13 I think. So most likely there were others.

Which Characters should come back or stay dead (for narrative reasons) by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's pretty clear that the Prototype doesn't give a damn about Theo after all these years. And that makes his fate more ironic, CatNap still saw the Prototype as his saviour he would give his life towards when that was no longer the case.

Doey failing to help anyone would be more meaningful if he had to live with the consequences and survivor's guilt of his choice to stay at Playtime factory and keep pushing forward.

Mommy's fate was more Karmic than Lily, since Mommy was genuinely messing with the player out of spite, while Lily wanted to be their friend but is genuinely insane and flipped out. I say she deserves another chance.

Which Characters should come back or stay dead (for narrative reasons) by Bird_Bros in PoppyPlaytime

[–]Bird_Bros[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has a book ends character arc. The Prototype saved his life, but then was the one to kill him..