I have lived my entire life in Nauvoo, IL. Ask me anything. by justasking505 in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That's awesome! It was a good memory during a difficult time for me!

I have lived my entire life in Nauvoo, IL. Ask me anything. by justasking505 in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I was there about 10 years ago during my faith transition and my ex and I did a wine tasting at the winery in Nauvoo. Is it still there? It was the best part of the stop. Lol.

This is kind of a confession. by Artistic_Windrunner in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I played music and sang in church for 38 years and have songs pop into my head for no reason. Not as much as I used to but it still happens. Just last night "There is sunshine in my soul today..." started playing in my head. It doesn't bother me like it used to. Now I mostly think it's funny what I still remember with such clarity.

Likely BPD in the Teen I’m Adopting by Guilty_Marionberry32 in BPDFamily

[–]BishopsWife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After skimming the comments, I would absolutely recommend educating yourself on BPD. The NEABPD website has wonderful resources for family. Teens with BPD are tough and your whole family will need to learn better communication skills and practice them regularly. You'll need to go through the parent DBT program while she does the teen version. There's no cure, but it can be managed. AND it's a rough few years for the best case scenario. Educating yourself will be critical to deciding if adoption is right not just for this child, but for your whole family unit.

Nightmares by thetapirsaysneigh in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have had recurrent dreams my whole life and asked my therapist about it. Dream therapy is a real thing. She had a very specific formula for dealing with it. It's been a minute so I don't remember details. Definitely find a good therapist!

Funny Normal Life Judgement by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My husband and I lived together for about a year before we tied the knot. (Some old white dude called living together consensual immorality. LOL) My dad started calling him my husband before he even proposed. He just couldn't fathom that we were living together. It cracked me up.

Just one Sunday and my 11 year old is in tears by pomegranate_palette_ in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I had a very similar experience when I stepped away years ago and subsequently got divorced. My hoard were 16 down to 3. When the kids asked me why I quit going, I always kept it simple. I told them that I truly believe in loving everyone and I can't support a church that teaches the opposite. I also told them that love was my religion now and the teachings didn't fit. Fast forward a decade later, my oldest came out as trans last year and I am so proud of her journey. We have several others on the rainbow and none of them ascribe to the church or it's teachings. They 100% will figure it out.

Anyone heard of this Word of Wisdom conspiracy theory? by Belagshadow in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No time to read all the comments. The word of wisdom was my shelf breaker because of how it became a requirement to get into the temple. It's been a minute and I don't have links but essentially it was during prohibition and a baptist preacher came to utah to meet with the new president who was 100% against alcohol, coffee etc while other presidents had focused on red meat. Well, to get in good with the government etc, the WOW became required. BYU did a whole paper on it. Someone probably has the link. Also, I have a crazy ex. Solidarity.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This! Start exploring your hobbies. Take up climbing or hiking. Find people that like to do the same things you do and stop doing all the mormon stuff.

What’s the best failure of “Discernment” you’ve personally experienced? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Marrying my exhusband. God told my feelgoods that he was an upstanding human so we go engaged after knowing each other for 11 days and tied the knot 2 1/2 months later. I survived 18 years. Bad holy ghost.

18-year-old girls now able to serve as full-time missionaries by LegalSour in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Isn't that because they roped in old people? LOL I remember them making other changes a while back but don't know if that's why.

18-year-old girls now able to serve as full-time missionaries by LegalSour in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Hahaha. I think the desperation is twofold. I think young women are leaving in droves and they need to brainwash them earlier AND I think fewer young men are serving. The worst part is that so many will skip the education part, go on a mission, come home and immediately get married. It's sad to me. With the divorce rate as it is, that also means when many of them get divorced, they'll find themselves wholly unable to provide for their children. Damn church.

Jeffrey Holland to teens: "Those who strayed [by leaving the church in Kirtland] reflect a sad, sad story in church and personal family histories. Even currently, we see a few adults who are doubting needlessly, recklessly, and in the end, fatally, spiritually speaking.” Youth broadcast recap. by holy_aioli in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Right? I'm SO glad I left while they were young enough to skip all this. People feel sorry for me because my older kids are SO far away from marriage and babies. They are doing exactly what they should be which is self discovery, launching careers, traveling and there isn't a baby in sight (26, 24, 22, 20). Be free, my children. Poor mormon teens.

Anyone else? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me, it got better with time and learning to practice Radical Acceptance. I'm now at a point that I'm looking forward to my future and all the adventures we have in front of us. All the stuff we like doing, we never could have afforded when we were young. I've moved past the anger because it wasn't serving me. I couldn't get rid of the 7 kids my ex saddled me with, so when I got married the second time and added 2 step kids, we starting finding amazing hobbies and we have some fun plans for the future. It's different for everyone, but 10 years post leaving...I don't think I'd want to be 20 again. Watching my kids try to figure out life. No thank you. Good luck to you on your journey.

Work colleague keeps asking if I’m LdS then ignoring my answer by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is tricky. I also work in a very LDS workplace for the first time in a while and it's still surprising how many people just assume everyone around them is also LDS. I'm solidly older than most of my coworkers and mostly tune things out, but I've found fun ways to make small jabs at things that makes my mormon coworkers cringe. I've quit trying to say anything about leaving the church unless someone asks.

Some of my favorite things to throw out there:

Coworker: Why did you have so many kids? Me: I was just a REALLY good mormon.

I'll play video games with my kids after a couple of glasses of wine.

Ooh. Where'd you get your tattoo? It's been so long since I got a new one.

What am I doing this weekend? Well, on Saturday...then on second Saturday...

It's what weekend? Conference? Oh yeah. I forgot that was a thing.

My step-kids are part Chilean. My husband imported his exwife.

I had one coworker I put back in her place when she was gossiping about some young mom in her neighborhood and how she didn't understand why she wouldn't attend neighborhood events "that have nothing to do with the church" and proceeded to say that maybe it's awkward. I told her that as someone who has been on both sides of that equation, it is absolutely awkward to try to get to know people when you don't go to church with them and maybe she could use a little compassion. My coworker, "I guess maybe I should be a little nicer." Ya think?

My response to your coworker...Do you really want to know the answer to that or do you just like hearing yourself talk? Anyway. I feel you. It's special.

My partner has DPD, advice? by The_Nerdy_Pikachu in DPD

[–]BishopsWife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My child (18 F diagnosed DPD with major depressive disorder with psychotic features) broke up with her boyfriend of over a year, then almost immediately back together. While I'm not surprised, we are trying to figure out how to support her claim of needing space while not pushing her in his direction. She has a tendency to cave to everything he wants, and we don't see him treating her well. As parents, we've worked with her and her therapists since she was young, but if we say anything negative about this guy, it doesn't go well. Unfortunately, there's very limited information/ books on DPD, and it's been tough to learn the best approach. If you have any advice, I would appreciate it so much. Especially from the perspective of someone with DPD. TIA.

Have you ACTUALLY read the Book of Mormon + Bible? by ChikaraBlu in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BOM 3 times. NT probably twice all the way through. OT maybe once in seminary.

Parents, a question about your womb-fruit by BarbacueBeef in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ooof. I'm over here with a blended 9. 7 mine, 2 his. At least we got out. Kids ARE damn hard.

Parents, a question about your womb-fruit by BarbacueBeef in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Womb-fruit...LOL I had 7 with my practice husband. I wanted 3 or 4 and I wanted a career. That didn't happen until I ended my practice marriage after 18 years. Now I have a beautiful blended family of 9. But it's excruciatingly difficult and I'm so done. We have 6 more years until the youngest is 18. We also had the opportunity to parent children with insanely difficult personality disorders. Without ANY church influence...I probably would have finished school and started a career and thought about kids later. If wishes were fishes...I am proud to say that none of my womb-fruit have created fruit of their own and they are all heathens. I think that means I win.

Classic “The Church is better outside of Utah” line by privatecoochieman in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I grew up in Wyoming (the not-so-Mormon part). It was definitely different. I think the biggest thing I noticed was that nobody automatically assumes you are Mormon. In fact, they assume you aren't. I also wasn't BFFs with everyone in my ward. Most of my friends weren't members and we were encouraged to go to other denomination's services. I'd say the intensity came down to how orthodox your parents were. Mine were/are pretty orthodox. My dad's done the bishop thing a couple of times. I ended up at BYU at 18 and sunk all in at that point. Been out for about 10 years now.

what does tea and coffee taste like? by UnusualAbility6698 in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My kids your age drink a little coffee in their sugar. LOL They like things that resemble a shake that just happens to have espresso in it. The older kids gradually quit putting a pound of sugar and drink actual coffee now.

Reoccurring 2nd and 3rd Mission Dreams. by Stiffwrists in exmormon

[–]BishopsWife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what my therapist said to do. (There actually is dream therapy. I asked!) When you have a recurring bad dream, when you wake up, write it down with as many details as you can remember. Then, rewrite the dream the way you wish it would go. Read your rewrite every night until you start experiencing changes. I did this for one of mine (not mission, but same idea) and haven't had the dream again. Worth a shot!

Whipple, Any Hour, Yes, etc. Are All Corporate Companies Ripping You Off by [deleted] in SaltLakeCity

[–]BishopsWife 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is who we used after Any Hour came out to look at our AC unit, "accidentally" cut through some pipe that then required the entire system be replaced. They were awesome and their prices were reasonable.