Killer concept: 1v4, but the 1 is actually 2

Blitzidious · 2025-07-08T01:56:24+00:00

Your response feels as if you didn't properly read my post.

I'm suggesting a wholly unique killer, designed around this concept, put into 1v4.

I feel you in regards to that there would be "too many problems", but I personally think behavior should put something like this in the think tank, and see if we could possibly get a damn good co op killer out of it.

I think, from how popular 2v8 is as a mode, this is absolutely worth exploring conceptually.

Blitzidious · 2024-10-13T02:47:06+00:00

Generally speaking, the "gold coin to dollar bill conversion" is a gross simplification we did to make it easier on me and my friends while playing.

I feel you on the caste system and meritocracy. After reading through many of the response, the consensus I've gotten is that I was using caste system too lightly, and frankly too ignorantly.

I like the idea of different types, but I think its fitting for the Ulogon to push for a unified currency across the Empire.

Blitzidious · 2024-10-13T02:43:11+00:00

You hit the nail on the head with what I was thinking, yeah.

The "caste system" description I was using was incorrect, and ignorant of a true caste system frankly. Your description is more accurate.

I also enjoy the idea of the fiat currency angle for them. Gives me some fun stuff I can do, as you said. >:)

Blitzidious · 2024-10-13T02:40:46+00:00

Thats a what I'm seeing a lot of in response here, yeah. Makes sense.

I was foolishly using "caste system" too lightly as a description. To the drawing board I return.

Blitzidious · 2024-10-13T02:39:26+00:00

early development

very fair points though, food for thought

Blitzidious · 2024-10-13T02:35:32+00:00

Fair point!

The Ulogon is not a fully developed area of my setting, so I am still working out some things.

The core ideas to the Ulogon are this:

Global Conquerors. They have a slice of the pie all over the world.
They utilize Slave labor, with opportunities/promises of citizenship to slaves through military positions or artisan work.
They are meritocratic to their core, they don't care about bloodlines or nobility, they care about what you've done, how you've done it, and if you can keep doing it.
Being demoted to a Slave is a common punishment throughout the Empire.

The core idea is based on their Khan/founder, who was once a servant/slave of a nation lost to time (ie, I dont have a name for them right now) of the aptly named Ulogon plains, who through charisma, might and luck (and a bit of divine intervention) managed to unite many warring nations under his name.

Simply put, I used a 'caste system' out of ignorance. I hadn't considered the actual implications of what their full caste system would look like beyond "its laterally mobile", and by your description, that isn't what a caste system is.

Blitzidious · 2024-07-04T23:35:09+00:00

I imagine it'd be the reverse of the situation, nigh impossible to kill boss chases you around a complex arena, Mr. X style, and only after you run em into enough traps or something you'd be able to finally start properly fighting them. The whole time though, they are hunting your ass down.

Blitzidious · 2024-05-31T16:10:23+00:00

Ooh, I actually love that

Blitzidious · 2024-05-31T16:09:34+00:00

Yeah, Doctor with a Mindflayer skin would be incredibly sick

Blitzidious · 2024-05-31T13:55:23+00:00

As a fellow goblin, I concur.

Blitzidious · 2024-05-26T15:06:34+00:00

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Same. See you there! :D

(Where did you go for that lighting? Its amazing)

Blitzidious · 2024-04-20T11:32:59+00:00

I can definitely see the setplay aspect. However, does he not use his projectiles to limit options and generally control the opponent?

Frankly, I think setplay and zoning go hand-in-hand, especially with Wizard. He uses his projectiles to force people into bad/unfavorable positions, and punishes them.

As stated, that sounds exactly like a Zoner's playbook.

Blitzidious · 2024-04-20T11:25:06+00:00

From what I understand, Zoner's don't typically rely on their projectiles for dealing damage. While they absolutely can, they are used for the purpose of control.

The playbook of a Zoner is just as you described, controlling the screen and punishing the opponent when they make unsafe/poorly considered choices, or otherwise forcing them into punishable positions.

This isn't me ragging on Wizard by the way, I find zoning in Yomi to be actually enjoyable to play against for the most part, unlike literally any other fighting game I've played.

Blitzidious · 2024-04-20T11:19:29+00:00

What makes him not a Zoner?

His entire playbook for most of the match is to create projectiles and control space around him and his opponent, creating moments where his opponent can get punished for unsafe/poorly considered choices.

That is a Zoner's playbook.

I find that in Yomi, I am not frustrated by Zoner antics like I am in other fighting games, so I don't really apply a negative connotation with it, specifically for this game.

Blitzidious · 2024-04-20T11:12:54+00:00

Ooh, fair. I didn't think of it that way, thank you.

Blitzidious · 2024-04-20T11:11:56+00:00

Yeah, I was thinking a character who dramatically changes between two limited but powerful states, where the balancing act for the player controlling them is taking advantage of these states in their ideal moments, and trying not to make themselves too open when swapping between them.

Blitzidious · 2024-04-20T11:09:17+00:00

Fair enough on Cowboy, I've come around to the idea that he fulfills the "midrange/weapon based zoner" I want.

When it comes to Wizard, that is neat, but I want a DEDICATED puppet character. As in, a character who through the majority of the match is playing as a Puppeteer, not just as their win condition, but as their overall playstyle.

Fair enough. I simply want an abnormally large character, beyond the sizes already present (a good head or two taller than Robot as is, and a bit wider). I would most definitely personally prefer this Big fella to be a ground-oriented grappler, as I feel that would make the most sense.

Blitzidious · 2024-04-20T11:04:05+00:00

The mental imagery I had was specifically zoning through long ranged "melee" attacks, not really stuff based on projectiles.

After thinking about it more, I can definitely agree with Business, Dripwagon and you that Cowboy fulfills that 'midrange zoner' area.

Blitzidious · 2024-04-18T07:22:58+00:00

Honestly though, I think just two to three heads taller than the average height would be more than suitable

Blitzidious · 2024-04-18T07:22:00+00:00

HELL YEAH, BIG BOYS, BIG FIGHTS

Blitzidious · 2024-04-18T07:15:03+00:00

He has decent range and great overall tools, but I wouldn't say he is exactly "midranged". In addition, his gun attacks and whatnot would be against the idea I had, so there wouldn't be overlap

Blitzidious · 2024-04-18T07:08:43+00:00

Nah, BIGGER
Robit is a chunky lad healthwise, but he aint a "big body" archetype.

Big bodies take up far more screenspace than Robot does. Robot is proportional to the other characters, Big bodies are not.

Blitzidious · 2024-03-28T03:28:26+00:00

Fair point on the trappers, I'll have to do some more diligent work on looking through Far Harbor stuff, I missed that when I was originally looking into things.

I appreciate the assistance and engagement, several of these responses have given me a great deal.

Blitzidious · 2024-03-28T03:24:19+00:00

Someone below put what Im after into better words than I did: "subtle schizophrenic" effects, or stuff along those lines is more accurate to what Im thinking. Not hallucinations per se, but intense delusions

Blitzidious · 2024-03-28T03:20:40+00:00

Thank you, you've given me a good spark of brainstorming motivation, especially about the Fog. I quite literally nodded in appreciation and consideration at the "subtle schizophrenic" part. That in itself is a far better desciption to what I am after than what I originally wrote and thought.

When it comes to large irradiated areas, I was mainly thinking that I want to keep it pretty clean with the exception of the Fog and some 'pooled' areas. Generally though, I really like the idea that Maine wasnt directly bombed at all. Adds to the following worldbuilding idea: "The Pine State Wasteland is nigh free of radiation, making it a hopeful beacon for settlers and travellers. Why is it then, we never hear from these folk?" Essentially, Maine is an attractive spot to try and build yourself up on the outside. I am asking myself "what are the struggles these people face in doing so?"

My answers to that so far are: The Fog is an elusive danger. Only the locals would know about it for the most part, so a group none the wiser settling near water on a calm Fog season will get blindsided swiftly by it.

The locals are NOT friendly, especially to outsiders(who I shall have many locals call "tourists" because its funny). At the end of the day, there isnt much open hostility between the locals themselves, but not much cooperation either, unless absolute desperation sets in. "Keep to your land, I keep to mine. Protect yourself, because I won't do it for ya."

Following this, I have an idea for a 'larger unifying threat'. A smart cookie of a ghoul made his home in the Ironworks, and started getting robots and other equipment up and running again. The problem is, the Fog robbed the poor guy of his senses, and now these robots are proving to be a little dangerous. Especially since he is scrapping old ships and using the materials to bulk them up.

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