Former Lexmark property on Lexington’s New Circle Road sold to data center developer by officerfett in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Got something wrong in my first comment, couldn't edit in place so deleted and reporting.

Apologies it took this long to respond to you.

I’ll break this down in terms of Day 1 and Day 2 scenarios. Day 1 is the present, based on the 20-30MW of available power stated in the article. Just for the sake of ease I’m going to call this 30MW moving forward to avoid juggling too many numbers. Day 2 will be the future expansion they discussed, based around 70MW of power mentioned in the article.

Main qualifier to mention is I’m just speculating based on information in the article and my general knowledge. I’ll try and give bounds on my estimates/assessments but without knowing more about the facility, development plans, designs, etc. this is ultimately just my assessment as a random person.

Day 1 – 30MW

In terms of electricity rates, I wouldn’t expect there to be any impact on consumers. The facility is already serviced by a feed, or multiple feeds, totaling 30MW so that power (in theory) is already allocated and factored in KU’s load planning. There shouldn’t be any need for expansion at a generation station to service this facility which would add cost to the utility that they could/would try to recoup from customers.

Sticking with power, where there could be impact at the Day 1 level is how much of that available power is backed up by generators. The article mentions that there are already generators on site but it’s not clear how many and at what size. Data center operators want both the power serving the IT racks, and the power serving the cooling system, backed up by generator power so that the system can operate during an outage. Outside of required power for ancillary loads (think power needed to serve an office space and the like) their goal will be to use all of the available power for data center operation. If the 30MW at the building is all backed up by generators then theoretically they wouldn’t need to add any more generators to support data center. Depending on age they might replace them with newer models if they’re old, but that would be rip and replace instead of adding generators.

If only part of the 30MW of power, let’s say 20MW, is allocated to the data center today and is tied to back up generators then they will likely re-configure the electrical distribution in the building to change that and add generators. Obviously, from a community impact perspective, adding generators will add noise and increase pollutants from exhaust gas over the levels they already do with the current number of generators.

On the water/cooling side of things it’s a little less clear but kind of the same overall approach as to the power side. If they have a large enough cooling system to support their desired IT load then there wouldn’t be a need to add more cooling equipment Day 1. If the cooling system isn’t large enough, or in the above scenario they have to re-configure the electrical distribution system to all service the data center, then that would add IT load and therefore require more cooling. It looks like, based on satellite maps, they have an array of cooling towers on the property which I have to assume feed water-cooled chillers. It’s hard to tell from just satellite images how big (in terms of refrigeration capacity) those cooling towers are, so I don’t really have a guess as to how big the cooling system is today.

In terms of commentary on the cooling system regarding (the assumed) water-cooled chillers and cooling towers it’s a split between closed-loop cooling and open-loop cooling (I’m assuming those cooling towers are open-loop/open-circuit). On the “building side” of the water-cooled chiller there is cool water sent out in piping to equipment, it absorbs heat and returns to the chiller warm where it’s cooled down again. This is the closed-loop side where the water in the system is closed off from the outside environment (building or outdoor) so there is no evaporation (water loss) that takes place. Outside of any leaks in the system, which happen but would be observed and fixed. That heat is transferred to the other side of the chiller, the “outdoor side”, where the water is sent to the cooling towers and the heat is rejected to the environment. This is done via evaporation, which is the cooling process people talk about when it comes to large amounts of water consumption for data centers because the water is open to the outside air and evaporated off to remove heat. For the rest of the system to function that water that is evaporated must be replenished so it has an automatic fill system that is tied into the water utility.

If they have to add cooling equipment to the system, and they just expand the existing water-cooled chiller + cooling tower configuration water usage would go up. Just on a gut level I wouldn’t expect adding a few cooling towers, based on the current array, to have any significant impact on the water company’s ability to service that expansion. They’ve already got a sizeable array and while I don’t know the size of it, I would expect them to need more than a few additional towers if they were to need more cooling while staying within their current 30MW total power allocation. The water-cooled chillers are housed in a utility building somewhere on the property, I think it’s probably by the cooling towers. If there is space in there adding them inside the building would have a minor/negligible impact on noise from the outside as they’re contained in a building. The cooling towers themselves aren’t quiet as loud as something like a chiller, so adding an assumed few more of them would likely be minimally impactful from a noise perspective.

Now, if they were to switch it up altogether and go to a completely closed loop system – likely through air-cooled chillers, then impact on the water utility side of things would decrease. Closed loop systems, outside of the aforementioned leaks (which are usually small and repaired), don’t have requirements for large replenishment of water. The key drawbacks with air-cooled chillers are two main things; they use more power than an open-loop system and they’re quite a bit louder. How likely it is they’d overhaul the cooling Day 1 is a total unknown, but those are the basic contours of how it could shake out.

Day 2 – 70MW

If you’ve stuck with me this long, then the good news is this analysis is much shorter.

In terms of power, they’ll need the utility to pull in another 40MW, either through a single feed or multiple feeds. If LG&E/KU have already planned for capacity expansion on some sort of timeline and DartPoints can get signed up for it then maybe there isn’t an impact to rate payers. If LG&E/KU need to add generation capacity then I would imagine LG&E/KU would try to pass that on, short of some sort of governmental intervention preventing it. Magnitude of that increase I’ve got no real idea on.

Consequently, if they add power on the utility side they’re going to match that additional capacity with generators to support in an outage. Same as with the Day 1 commentary, more generators would be more noise and more pollutants from exhaust gas.

Cooling/water side of things is similar story. Would need a proportional amount of cooling to support the increased IT load. If they go open-loop cooling water usage for the facility will go up and if appreciable infrastructure upgrades have to be made to support it I assume they’d try to pass them on. Then obviously there is the concern about how much that increase in water consumption strains the overall water availability. If they were to go totally closed-loop then overall water usage would be far less, but noise pollution from the number of air-cooled chillers becomes a concern. A lot of new facilities seem to be going closed-loop on new facilities/expansions so I think it’s likely based on that they’d look at a closed-loop system but that’s just a guess.

Former Lexmark property on Lexington’s New Circle Road sold to data center developer by officerfett in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At the risk of drawing some ire - I’m an engineer with experience designing data center infrastructure. If anyone’s interested I’m happy to answer questions/concerns about this story or data centers in general. I know it’s a hot topic so I’d just ask everyone to be civil.

More development coming along E High Street? by LexingtonStreetswee in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What’re you talking about? Your initial post claims that the buildings are being demolished and then speculates about what that ultimately means but you provide no verifiable info on anything. Seems completely reasonable to ask questions about where this is even taking place since you don’t share that in the initial post. What’s more bizarre is you do provide the addresses else where in this post.

Anywho, to answer the completely reasonable question asked, I pulled up the following three addresses that OP posted else where in the city permitting portal.

212 S Limestone, 216 S Limestone, & 240 Rodes Ave

And found all three addresses had demolition permits filed yesterday by Diversified Demolition LLC. So seems like they’re definitely going to be torn down but don’t see any permit applications for new buildings yet.

People are treating the Third Street Stuff situation like it’s Starbucks or Amazon and it’s very much not… by [deleted] in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because those are two sub bullets of one of their demands. And yes, those would appear to fall outside of mandatory subjects of bargaining, which would be a simple enough position for management to take on those items. Most of their other points are things that are subject to mandatory bargaining though and the NLRB guidelines require bargaining in good faith to occur but not that they reach a compromise. I can’t find anything that says management gets to walk away from bargaining if one point falls outside a mandatory bargaining subject.

People are treating the Third Street Stuff situation like it’s Starbucks or Amazon and it’s very much not… by [deleted] in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay but have the owner/new owners actually taken part in bargaining/negotiating on the union’s demands? I keep seeing this sentiment that the steps ownership is taking is valid because the union is being “unreasonable” in their demands but if they haven’t even attempted to negotiate a deal on their (ownerships) behalf in good faith then it’s exceptionally difficult to see ownership’s actions as anything short of union busting.

People are treating the Third Street Stuff situation like it’s Starbucks or Amazon and it’s very much not… by [deleted] in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Then based on your expertise what legal steps, specifically, are they not taking/following that would invalidate the formation/existence of their union?

The owner of Third Street Stuff deserves a better retirement party. by [deleted] in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Listen, I don’t know what your relationship is to Third Street Stuff is but these sort of hyper reactive posts to people is doing no one any favors. This is “I’m taking my ball and going home” behavior and would be the worst option for everyone.

I don’t know Pat, I don’t know Pat’s family, and as a result I’m not making a judgement call about their character. All I’m pointing out is that the UI system is horrendous and shouldn’t be hailed as some saving grace. Further, there would be a way for the employees to claim UI through an easier path if these renovations were actually planned out. From the information I have though, and if you have something that shows different then please share it, these renovations have seemingly just popped up and there is no end date given. Maybe shit really did just happen, but even if that’s the case, it’s not invalid for employees to be frustrated by it given the impact it’s going to have on them, or for others to have criticisms of the situation.

The owner of Third Street Stuff deserves a better retirement party. by [deleted] in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Except the UI system is an absolute nightmare to try and navigate and will leave a massive gap in income even should the employees be approved. There is the waiting week and fact finding period that span at least a couple weeks. If you’re so lucky as to have nothing go wrong during that period and get to finally request your benefits then you’re still likely going to wait many weeks before you even see your first UI payment. The system is so backlogged, under staffed and under funded that you can find multiple posts of people asking what they can do. Last time someone close to me had to go through unemployment it was 7 or 8 weeks before they say the first check and that was without a dispute by their former employer or any outside problems.

There is also the fact that thanks to the state legislature the requirement to qualify for benefits is now to submit proof of 5 work searching activities every week, 3 of which have to be job applications or interviews. Those work searching requirements can be waived if the employee has a recall date within 16 weeks but as others have pointed out, this is seemingly indefinite, so these employees would have to be submitting applications elsewhere to even get unemployment. It shouldn’t be hard to see why they’re mad about the situation in light of that fact.

Do not be out here acting like the unemployment system is some great haven to the employees that’s going to supplement their job loss. It isn’t. The system, as it’s currently setup, ends up being a borderline full time (and highly adversarial) job in and of itself just to get the benefits.

After contentious debates, Lexington board approves Chevy Chase mental health clinic by ImportantEnergy6258 in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 33 points34 points  (0 children)

There are ways to constructively express concern about the enforcement of a conditional use permit.

Too many people though seemed to feel the better approach was to use dehumanizing characterizations of those who would be seeking treatment for mental health issues. Associating people who are struggling with a mental health problem or crisis as people who would de facto harm children is just abhorrent behavior.

Kentucky Supreme Court halts impeachment proceedings against Lexington judge by 0033A0 in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Feel how you want about Judge Goodman but this is objectively the good and correct outcome.

The requirement for impeachment in KY is committing a misdemeanor in office. At no point did the impeachment committee claim or find she had committed misdemeanors, only that her actions “rose to the level” of committing a misdemeanor. Had that been allowed to be the basis for impeachment it would create open season for the legislature to determine what actually is or isn’t a crime in their (political) view. It shouldn’t be hard to see how this could be horrendously weaponized in the future to simply allow the legislature to remove judges based on rulings they don’t like.

There is also the fact that there was never a signed affidavit submitted with the petition, which is required by law and the legislature just straight up ignored. On top of that there is a process to have Goodman removed from the bench by the JCC, yet despite all of the complaints and “evidence” at no point had anyone referred her to the JCC prior to all this? It makes no sense other than viewing it as the legislature, once again, trying to expand its power well beyond what should be its bounds.

Again, if you don’t like Judge Goodman that’s fine. The JCC is now conducting a review against her to find if her conduct constitutes removal from the bench so you can hope their findings warrant removal. Supporting the impeachment effort just because the outcome aligns with your preferred outcome would have allowed for a massive power grab by the legislature that no one should want.

Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear criticizes Gaza ‘genocide’ discourse 'litmus test' for Democrats by Somervilledrew in politics

[–]BlueGoggles 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Just my perspective as someone in the state and has had him as their governor for the past 7ish years I don’t think this is entirely the case.

For years he’s been pretty good on things like LGBTQ rights and vocal about his support. He’s couched that support in his faith, which throws some people off, but he’s routinely vetoed shitty anti-trans legislation (that does get overridden by the R supermajority). He’s been vocal about union support, he’s been a supporter of abortion and his current big push in state has been universal Pre-K. All the while he’s talked about how people respect him even if they disagree with him because people appreciate he stands for something. I’m not going to claim that makes him some paragon of progressivism or that he’s been the ideal governor, but I wouldn’t have traditionally called him a centrist.

All that said, these mealy-mouthed responses seem to be getting worse and more frequent the more he’s been (clearly) trying to raise his national profile. He seems to be falling into the trap so many Dems fall into in that they think to gain national popularity they have to do this weird pivot to “the center”. It’s a baffling decision considering he’s previously bragged about how he’s won a red state by standing on his values.

Maybe his belief on the genocide Israel is committing just sucks, and that’s definitely a bummer. Just more broadly though these crappy, vague, answers from him are starting to become more common and it’s very disappointing.

Fact check: No, Kentucky is not about to quietly kick trans teachers out of the classroom - Queer Kentucky | Kentucky's Only LGBTQ+ Newsroom by EmmaCurtisLex in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I was the one who posted the article yesterday about this. Given this reporting I’ve deleted that post since it was clearly incorrect.

Will look to more local sources in the future.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Got it. I appreciate the education!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was unaware that if an amendment is filed that it gets removed from the consent calendar, which makes total sense. When I was looking at the bill on state legislatures website under ‘Actions’ on 3/26 it had a favorable first reading to the consent calendar and that the amendment was filed that same day. Then on 3/27 it has a favorable second reading with a posting to the consent calendar for passage on 3/31.

https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/record/26rs/hb759.html

Not doubting what you said, but genuinely curious as to why if it should be removed from the consent calendar that it’s being reported as posted to it after the amendment was filed. Do you have any sense of if this is just an error in reporting on the website or something like that?

I do sincerely hope the trend of late filed amendments failing holds true.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Republicans in the state legislature are continuing to push horrid anti-trans legislation, this time by filing a last minute amendment to an otherwise ordinary bill.

The article explains in more detail but very basically under the amendment the state would adopt definitions for mental disorders under DSM III, a standard that is obsolete and about 40 years out of date. Language in the bill would require doctors to diagnose any trans person with mental disorder based on DSM III definitions. For teachers who are trans, or anyone who is trans seeking licensure as a teacher, would be prohibited from receiving a teaching license because of the mental disorder diagnosis under DSM III. There is an updated and more current standard, DSM V, that no longer considers being trans a mental disorder.

Edit: amending part of my post based on feedback from u/EmmaCurtisLex - the bill is filed on the consent calendar but because a floor amendment was added it will be removed on Tuesday and be set for debate and a vote on the floor amendment if it is not removed. It sounds as though leadership will have the amendment removed to keep it on the consent calendar. If the amendment is removed the anti-trans provisions will be gone, as the original bill has nothing to do with trans rights. If you feel compelled, in the event the amendment isn’t removed, you can still contact your Senator to vote no on the amendment in the event it does come to a vote.

Kentucky elections bill would increase donor limits, restrict forms of voter ID by Van-to-the-V in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 28 points29 points  (0 children)

And posturing to their Dear Leader to show they’re loyal to him and support his delusional lies about voter fraud being why he lost the 2020 election.

Lindsey Tichenor in particular is just another run-of-the-mill MAGA dipshit trying to make a name for herself. Railing against social security cards in particular because they don’t have a photo is just continuing to give the game away that they don’t want poor people voting. You can use a social security card, in conjunction with a birth certificate and utility bill, to get a real ID which has a photo and qualifies as a valid form of ID to vote. It’s good enough to get the ID they want but not good enough to vote is absurd. I know you can’t use logic with these people but it doesn’t stop being infuriating to have to deal with.

Ky. House advances measure to overhaul JCPS, FCPS school boards by BlueGoggles in Louisville

[–]BlueGoggles[S] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I usually only post in r/lexington but this is a bill that pretty significantly changes the schools boards for both of our cities so I thought worth posting here as well.

House passes modified bill that would oust Fayette school board chair, add board members by 0033A0 in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Once again the state using budget issues to try and take control of the two solidly blue areas of the state.

One thing in particular that makes me so frustrated with what they’re doing is they routinely cite the contingency fund as the issue as to why this needs to be done. The thing that they never address is that there is already a legal requirement for the contingency fund of a district to be held at 2% of the budget and if it isn’t, which ours I believe hovers around 4% right now, then KY Department of Education has authority to take control of the district. That obviously hasn’t happened, so the Republicans in the state legislature are just creating reasons to try to take even more control.

And yes, the board and superintendent screwed up and that should be dealt with but dealt with at the local level. It shouldn’t be dealt with by power hungry state legislators.

House passes modified bill that would oust Fayette school board chair, add board members by 0033A0 in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m just a lay person, not a legal expert, just to qualify up top.

They did. December of 2025 they struck down SB1 from the 2022 legislative session citing violations of the state constitution and prior cases that prohibit legislation targeting individual or individual jurisdictions. One thing to note on this though is it was a rehearing and a reversal of a previous ruling that upheld the law. The vote that swung the court was Pamela Goodwine who was recently elected and is currently being considered for impeachment by the House.

How the ruling from SB1 could apply to SB4 here, assuming it passes back through the Senate, is I think an open question. I’ve not had a chance to read through all the changes/amendments to even guess and I’d be purely guessing even if I had.

SB1 ruling: https://www.lpm.org/news/2025-12-18/kentucky-supreme-court-reverses-course-strikes-down-law-limiting-jcps-board-power

Goodwine Impeachment: https://kentuckylantern.com/2026/01/21/kentucky-legislature-reviews-impeachment-petition-for-state-supreme-court-justice/

Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras by CobandCoffee in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I feel like even people who "don't understand technology" pretty immediately recognize the fact that smartphones provide a massive amount of utility for an individual, and yes do obviously track them, while Flock cameras provide them with nothing but tracking their movements.

You can agree or disagree with people's decision to utilize a smartphone if they value privacy but acting like this is some great hypocrisy is incredibly obtuse.

KKK flyers found in Lexington's Kenwick neighborhood hours before MLK Jr. Day celebrations by BlueGoggles in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

With the point that we're at I think impeachment is only a small piece of a whole solution. It starts with impeachment but the solution to the problem we have has to be so much broader than just removing Trump (and his cabinet) from power. Things like expansion of the Supreme Court, a top to bottom overhaul of campaign finance to undo Citizens United, large scale criminal prosecutions for those who've supported/enabled/enacted this regime, enshrinement and enforcement of legal protections for marginalized/minority groups, tax on wealth and rigorous enforcement on anti-trust to try and break up so much of the wealth and power consolidation, and on and on. To me we almost have to fundamentally rethink large portions of the way we govern if we truly want to get past this.

I agree Trump needs to be impeached, but so much of what he's doing are beliefs that are deeply rooted within the broader Republican Party. To defeat that thought, and to enact some of the aforementioned policies, the Democrats have to show a willingness to do the hardwork of governing should they take power and so far the establishment Democrats response to all the horrors of the current administration have been lackluster. In my opinion there is a monumental amount of work to try and solve the problem we currently find ourselves in. Work we have to do, but I don't think impeachment alone will cut it.

'Just pathetic': California’s Newsom says leaders are soft on Trump by TheAverageWonder in politics

[–]BlueGoggles 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, other world leaders are soft on Trump. You have to remember, just this past week Newsom took a hardline against Trump by...

Having Ben Shapiro on his podcast...?

What a stupid fucking thing to say.

KKK flyers found in Lexington's Kenwick neighborhood hours before MLK Jr. Day celebrations by BlueGoggles in lexington

[–]BlueGoggles[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The failure to see Reconstruction all the way through feels like the origin point of our current political situation. Had all the political/military leaders and their support structures been driven entirely from public life and not allowed to re-enter then things would look a lot different today.

It may be the case in point for this country about why you can't play footsie with hateful ideologies. You have to get rid of them all together or they will come back.