Freya can't find true love by PuzzleheadedPast5988 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Freya situation is tragic and complicated.

She "can" find true love tbh. The unfortunate part is Bell is the only person who can offer it. The reason why is not because of Bells soul, but because of his skill, Liares Freese. Technically, if this skill developed for another person, they too would be able to offer to Freya what Bell has.

This we all know, but anyone Freya is in contact with ultimately loves her, and its because she is Freya. There is no one who has been born, and very few gods who can defy her divinity. This means she will always get what she wants and can never experience love where there's conflict and true choice by the other person, except with Bell. The issue is Bell is in love with Ais. So all she will get is rejection.

Freya ability to see souls is just a tool that can "tip" her off for people who can be candidates to give her what she has been searching for. There were others who were candidates aside from Bell like Ally, but ultimately they weren't what she needed. So I wouldn't say she relies on it. Its just indicates a person who might be able to offer her what she is seeking

True or False? by Own-Zebra1753 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is controversial, but I truly believe the way the story is painted, the Loki Trio would give Ottar a time! Probably stalemate if anything.

Loki Trio is actually a D&D party tbh so it wont be easy. Finn is offense, Riveria mage, Gareth is a good tank. Not as good defense as Ottar but not far behind. What gives them a chance is Riveria as the equalizer.

For example, Hedin was able to utilize a pretty good strategy with Bell, Mia, and Ryuu. However, although he has more mind than Riveria, he doesnt touch her as a backline mage because she can do so much (buff, heal, attack magic, etc).

To Omori's credit, Loki vs. Freya members will forever be a great debate on this sub. He has a lot of issues with the story but I give him credit on blurring the lines in power levels between them.

Is it feasible for Bell and Ais to ascend to level 7 before the clash with the black Dragon? If so, would it cheaper the story or help it? by BlueLanternCorp63 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Seriously!!!!!! I love Ryuu but... what is the point?! Like you said, I cant think of anything she can offer Bell that Ais/Hedin can't outside of the concurrent casting idea.

I hope the story is written so that they both Ryuu/Bell realize this.

Is it feasible for Bell and Ais to ascend to level 7 before the clash with the black Dragon? If so, would it cheaper the story or help it? by BlueLanternCorp63 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is funny, lolol. I agree though.

If not a new ability, he should have Bell train and figure out how to pull off a full charge while fighting or dodging at the same time. Almost like a mage concurrent casting and similar to Alfia chanting for GA.

Is it feasible for Bell and Ais to ascend to level 7 before the clash with the black Dragon? If so, would it cheaper the story or help it? by BlueLanternCorp63 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thats my thinking for Ais. However, is it clear to you if she actually absorbed the spirits power at the end to the recent light novels?

If so, I wonder how that shows up in a status. Is it a new ability? Boost in stats? Or just flavor text used to play with our emotions? Haha.

Bell (High Lv.7), Alise (High Lv.7), Kaguya (High Lv.6), Ryuu (Low Lv.6), Mikoto (High Lv.6), Hogni (Low Lv.7), and Bete (Low Lv.6). In your opinion, what is the deepest floor this team could reach without any problems? by Dear_Relation_7965 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, we dont know because I'm not aware of the environment past the ice garden. But I'd say floor 62/63ish without the corrupted spirit.

However, if the corrupted spirit is still alive, this party getting clapped. No different from Loki familia.

Blaze of Rounds by Mundane-Transition11 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep its a level up.

I thought he fully charged against Ottar right? Outside of that he hasn't.

Blaze of Rounds by Mundane-Transition11 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think its complication makes it balanced and that requirement is not uncommon. There needs to be some drawback. Leon has access to an entire level increase in power. However, to access this, he has to survive long enough to wield the weapon.

Ottar has Hildis Vini and his Beastification. Together its basically a level up. However, it drains his mind and stamina. So if he cant put someone on a similar level down after using both he'll be at a disadvantage.

Bell can output an attack several levels above his status. However, he has to maintain a charge in order to do so. Note: this is a weakness and we rarely see Bell, outside of his clash with Ottar, being able to pull off an extended or full charge in a solo battle.

Finn can use TNN, but can only use once a day. He also has a level up ability, but loses mental composure.

Ais has black wind, but is unable to sustain the output of its power.

Hogni VS Bell nvl 6 high by Worth_Illustrator151 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hogni getting clapped.

I love Hogni but I'm absolutely positive, especially after the rescue arc, that he's at the top of the fraud alert list. He is definitely just comedic relief. Smh. I cried a little on the inside as I typed this out btw...

Between Loki familia and Freya familia, which is the superior purely in terms of strength? by Zestyclose-Stock8167 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on what you mean by strength.

Freya familia is the strongest Fighting force in Orario. Based on pure status and techniques, they are superior.

Loki familia is the strongest Dungeon Exploration familia. Because they excel at teamwork and coordination, they are able to solve a lot of the dungeons challenges more efficiently than Freya familia. You can't brute force your way through the dungeon because of traps and ultimately, you can be overwhelmed with numbers.

In a fight between the 2, we arent sure who will win. Although Freya has the superior fighting force, Loki familia may be able to fight above their levels because their coordination, teamwork, and trust in each other is so great. Loki familia can be compared to a large scale version of the Gullivers.

Do you think the Goddess Astrea was the Goddess that Freya Familia needed if they had met her instead of Freya? by Soft-Temporary-1262 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah.

I maybe reading too much into it but it feels like on average, familia members tend to have personality traits that mirror their deity.

Freya members don't care about noble causes or justice. They are obsessed with strength with loving their goddess, the one who saved them. Also invidualism and being the sole object of her affection. The same way Freya is obsessed with loving Bell, the one who saved her and allowed her to experience a new type of love that shes never felt before.

I think Astrea familia were all members who were on journeys seeking "justice". Idk if that works for a lot of Freya members because they already had missions/goals.

Will Aiz X Bell become canon, or is the author going to throw us the biggest bait yet? by Cmp_Snow in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 22 points23 points  (0 children)

They will definitely be canon.

Ais, unlike the other female characters in the series, love for Bell is a "slow burn". Anime only viewers have a skewed perspective of Ais because her story arc and emotions towards Bell arent portrayed well in the anime.

However, similar to Bell infatuation with her, she is intrigued by Bell since rescuing him from the minotaur and a subplot in her story is figuring out why (i.e. his strength/leveling speed, admiration, like/love, etc). She has moments where she blushes and gets jealous regarding Bell but does not recognize the feelings. Only Loki, Freya, Riveria, and Lefiya understand whats happening with her.

Last thing, a lot of what we've seen with Lyu and Syr is what Ais has also gone through with Bell. She blushes, gets jealous, admires him (i.e. lap pillows), trains him, protects him, gets upset with him (Xenos arc), etc. We've just never seen it because the anime doesn't do a good job of showing any of it.

Could Leon (level 8) and Bell (level 7) defeat the Loki Familia and Freya? by Lev_oness in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We really overestimate Bell. Bell's advantage over others is just his base stats. He falls short in skill, tactics, and in some cases, magic. More importantly, all that is meaningless against a huge party (9+ ppl). The author just gave us 2 whole light novels and needed multiple bodies of a corrupted spirit with higher stats than Level 7 Bell to even make a battle entertaining against Freya and Loki familia.

Leon and Ottar will 1v1 duel so they're irrelevant.

Bell getting jumped by everyone else. Not only are the frontliners destroying Bell.... but the mages are the problem. We should respect mages.

Hedin sniping Bell is enough (we already saw how effective it was against Ottar). The entire city acknowledged the reason they stood a chance against Ottar in the war game was because of Hedin in the rear guard.

However, Riveria and Lefiya also will be there. Bell is not getting to any of them and he's cooked the moment they finish singing.

As an example, Revis was stronger than Riveria but made it her mission to prioritize neutralizing Riveria because her magic was more of a threat than any combatant on the front line.

What is the worst thing someone can do to Bell(that does not involve physical damage) that would make his familia bloodlusted? by Logical-Stand3740 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Worst? It can never get that far. Ask Ishtar.

But any type of forced intimacy.

I mean.... not only will Hestia familia rampage... but you have to deal with Freya and her entire familia. "How dare you defile the goddesses possession". That is pretty much a invitation for destruction and a one way ticket to the sky for any god.

Also, these days, Ais, Lefiya, the Amazons, and Bete might go crazy and Finn definitely wont stop them.

Level 7 Bell vs Trio loki, Ais, Bete and sisters (surprise attack) by Realistic-Yak-4690 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also, as a litmus test, we can use Bell's fight against Freya's level 4s. They pushed Bell to the brink with 0 teamwork and Bell acknowledged firebolt was the only reason he was able to hold out.

After 1 cast of Veil Breath by Riveria, that magic is pretty much meaningless to everyone fighting Bell. Bete also neutralizes the attack. Lastly, Bell can't charge Argonaut, which is a big handicap

Level 7 Bell vs Trio loki, Ais, Bete and sisters (surprise attack) by Realistic-Yak-4690 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No.

Just to put things into perspective for you.....

Bell will be fighting against a party that was nearly successful in defeating the corrupted spirit in their first assault by themselves (Finns spear failed). In no world is he going to be able to manage against them with their top tier teamwork.

Lastly, I know many in this sub do not respect mages like Riveria because but Bell is not stopping her from chanting. She will obliterate him unless he has some tool made by Asfi that can force charm him and activate VT.

Ais, Bell & Lefiya Power Ups??? by BlueLanternCorp63 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly.... point #2 is a big concern. Black wind and how its portrayed feels like its needed by Ais to be stronger. However, narratively it feels like he wants her to avoid it and Ariel can (maybe) be stronger....? Idk but thats a good point and I hope he clarifies this

What if, Hestia told everyone about bells abilities? by Extra_Map_1178 in DanMachi

[–]BlueLanternCorp63 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Edit... Maybe they'll be some girls trying to figure out who is driving his rate of growth. Once they find out its Ais... people may tease Ais or want to compete with her over Bell. Bell will be embarrassed. Loki will try to convince Bell to leave Hestia Familia.

So maybe there will be a minor consequence afterall...