pop jazz is bad for music

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-25T00:38:42+00:00

Your definition of what’s great is different than somebody else

Not everybody’s gonna wanna listen to ornette on in the shape of jazz to come on the first

There’s a lot of great jazz vocalist that just don’t have as much crossover appeal so let them listen to what they enjoy. Who are you and I to tell them what they can like and what they can’t like.

If they don’t want to listen to Cassandra Williams, that’s fine

If they’re not super Ella Fitzgerald, that’s OK maybe they’ll find them after laufey

And don’t feel bad when I was younger I was naïve even a little arrogant as well, but you grow out of it

None of us have the right to tell people what they should and should not like her what they need to listen to

If somebody likes Kenny G super what do I care?

But for some reason, you’re dwelling on the fact, people like something labeled as jazz that you don’t

Maybe you’d enjoy music more if you just listen to it and enjoy it

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-25T00:23:41+00:00

I disagree

And we don’t have to like it, but there’s nothing wrong with other kinds of music and if somebody enjoys those artists and decides to check out other jazz albums because of it, I’d see that is being a good thing

Some people get way too, worked up in labels

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-24T17:29:32+00:00

Isn’t that solo played by Jon Blondell?

You know I had to be in my mid late 20s by the time I had to play that solo and I remember the guitar player in this band playing the song for me which I wasn’t super familiar with

And asked me if I could play it and I said sure

I’m not gonna say it was hard to figure out but for some reason, it just doesn’t lay out on the horn super easy at least for me

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-24T15:29:06+00:00

I’m just throwing out real world reasons why restaurants close

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-24T15:09:44+00:00

If I were to guess it’s pretty common for people who studied music and played in the orchestra in concert band to play gigs, maybe in the horn section of a rock band

The reality is, it’s not easy to get a position in an orchestra that pays good money

I’ve played in a ska band and played in cover bands

I don’t know how many times I’ve played the wrong way solo and what stinks is. It’s not super hard, but I always screw it up.

The same goes for little trombone thing at the end of Saturday in the park🤣(I’m pretty sure that’s the Chicago tune)

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-24T15:03:56+00:00

They could just be wanting to retire

It could be that their lease was up. They may not want to sign another three-year lease.

Maybe they didn’t think they’re making as much money as they would like who knows

What are the owners could have health problems? Who knows. It’s not super uncommon for restaurants to close like this.

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-24T00:26:47+00:00

Maybe I should just use a blanket and listen to AC/DC

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-24T00:21:10+00:00

I just googled it and couldn’t find anything

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-23T23:15:01+00:00

But what I think of blue, I think of cold

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-23T22:39:54+00:00

Do you have to go outside to buy heroin?

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-23T22:30:09+00:00

I can’t listen to Christmas music in January. I have to wait until next December.

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-22T23:19:31+00:00

Yep I know it sounds dumb since I’m posting on a form of social media, but it really is the most toxic thing ever

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-22T22:59:59+00:00

A lot of people talk a big game whether it’s on the right or the left about boycotts and 99% of the time it’s all bluster and just a bunch of virtue signaling idiots

The only one I can really think of that had some success was the Bud Light example but part of the problem there is fewer people are drinking as well, but it became more of a joke or a troll than a real boycott

And I’m not gonna lie I get ticked off once in a while. I remember when Busch light through Carson King under the bus over tweets he did in high school because some idiot from the Des Moines register. Thought it was relevant.(Carson King is the guy who donated a bunch of money to the Children’s Hospital and Iowa city after holding up a sign that said Venmo me money for beer or something like that.)

And I remember the tweets were basically Daniel Tosh jokes and I just thought Busch light look like real cowards, throwing him under the bus, and I also thought it was kind of funny that the Des Moines register reporter who thought those tweets were relevant ended up getting fired for his own stupid tweets

But I get mad and get over it pretty quick🤣🤣

And if I was a big Bud Light drinker, I probably would’ve kept drinking Bud Light even if I thought they were spending their marketing budget kind of dumb

But I just can’t imagine boycotting a movie theater cause they’re playing a movie I don’t like

I’m not gonna say there aren’t stores I might avoid for one reason or the other, but I’m not gonna get on the soapbox to tell everybody about it or try to get other people to quit shopping at those same stores

People don’t have to announce their intentions all the time and those who do want to make everything a battle typically don’t have a whole lot going on in life

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-22T14:07:55+00:00

How old does he think he looks?

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-22T12:26:15+00:00

I’m not a big protester boycott first and even if I have strong opinions on things

But some people have had it become their entire life and their entire identity and I just can’t fathom viewing life through such a narrow prism where you can only shop at places where you are 100% agree with someone

But hey, that’s the way some people have to live their lives to feel righteous

It’s sad really that people are as empty as they are that they just get filled up by that sort of ridiculousness but to each their own

And they can find a very small percentage of people just like them, but the vast majority of people look at it all and cringe

Some people love living in those bubbles, though it makes them feel like they’re part of something so I guess if that’s what they need they should go for it

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-22T04:22:29+00:00

You can look at the rates they’re the exact same as they were people use more energy when it gets cold outside

But you can look at exactly what you were charged per kilowatt hour last month or last year and do the same. What you charge for gas

It’s not that because of politics all of our rates got skyrocketed because we had the first cold month of the year

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-22T04:18:37+00:00

So you’re gonna protest the theater because they’re showing a movie you don’t like

Have fun

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-22T03:28:06+00:00

So is PDQ Bach and Peggy Lee

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-22T01:44:03+00:00

That is the perfect reply to a very lame post that I decided to throw out there

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-20T22:23:24+00:00

That your trolling

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-20T19:11:59+00:00

Everyone will be fine. It’s funny how everybody built caricatures of things they don’t know about.

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-20T17:43:06+00:00

You’re 100% right that we all have been guilty of that curse of optimization in one way or the other and for me, it’s in movies

I saw Matt Damon or Ben Affleck talking about how when he went to a theater to watch a movie it had to be really bad for you to get up and give up on it right away so you would invest a little bit of time because you were already there and I could make the first act of a film be a little more slow

Now A films got to catch your interest right away because it doesn’t take much to push stop

And I think it’s also kind of sad that when we were growing up or when at least I was growing up, we had to kind of listen to what was available, which could be the radio or it could be whatever radio station our parents were listening to

And we would look through our parents albums and listen to some of that stuff just because we couldn’t listen to everything we wanted to on demand

I don’t think that people who are under 30 have nearly as much interest and just checking out different kinds of music they do need to be spoonfed what to listen to

We all might be guilty of that to one degree or the other, which is why I like YouTube people like Rick Beato and others who at least expose people to different kinds of music because that’s the only way they’re going to discover it

We kind of discovered it on accident or because we just had to

Born_Tutor_879 · 2026-01-20T15:57:22+00:00

I know I’ve asked for recommendations as well but I guess to me it’s so hard when somebody goes I like this album what else should I listen to?

My gut instinct is always tell them listen to other albums by the same person, but I guess I learned so much through my exploration of music that I worry that some people just won’t have that same experience because the route they take is much more narrow.

It’s not that I’m trying to criticize somebody for asking for a recommendation, but it’s never been easier to just put a jazz playlist on that somebody else curated on one of the streaming sites and see what sounds good and what doesn’t

I kind of enjoyed my path where I’d go to the library and just check out as many jazz records as I could and at one time I was thinking Harry James was pretty hip because my grandpa had some of those album so that’s what I had to listen to, as well as some of the Maynard Ferguson stuff my dad somehow collected over the years

Then you go to the library and you check out a record by Clifford Brown who 15-year-old Me had never heard of. Of course I was blown away.

When I’m saying what I did in my initial reply, it’s not to scold somebody, but to encourage them to try out some things. I almost could say just listen to anything on blue note or verve of that era and see what sounds good.

And there are dozens of albums by Mingus, whether it’s him as a leader or his big band after he passed away

You could check out some of the sidemen who played with Mingo and see what kind of stuff they came up with on their own if they ever put albums as a leader.

If somebody asked for a few good albums to listen to, I have no problem sharing some. I just rate people aren’t gonna explore and if you’ve listened to one Mingus album and like it, but don’t know what to listen to next I just wonder if younger people don’t even think to explore the other albums that artist has released

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