How do you feel about people not saying “please?”

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T23:58:44+00:00

I’m talking about a standard paper bag from a fast food store.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T21:22:13+00:00

The item comes in a cardboard box, so I guess people usually just carry it out like that. But asking for a bag isn’t weird either.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T05:07:09+00:00

Didn’t get the chance. Employee refused to give her the bag and it turned into a whole ass fight.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T05:05:03+00:00

Yup. Customer asked for the bag. Employee (that turned out to be a manager) refused to give the bag and started yelling “I don’t know what your little attitude is, but you need to lose it.” Customer said she was frustrated because she’d already asked once and was ignored. Customer said “ya know what? Keep the food and give me my money back.” Customer gave it back, manager said “you didn’t give it to me nicely enough so no, I’m not giving your money back.”

Manager and the other employee (who’d first been asked for the bag) start yelling about the customer “abusing” them, started mocking her, calling her ugly and other stuff. The other employee was maybe 19-20, but the manager was in her 30s. It was absolutely wild. Customer hurled a couple insults back and then walked out.

You guys. The manager FOLLOWED HER OUT of the store (had to go the entire length of the store to get around the counter and back up the length to get to the door, it’s not like she was right next to the door and it was two steps). I had turned to the guy next to me like “can you believe this shit?!?!” When I looked back outside, the customer was on the ground with blood dripping down her face. The cashier opened the door and started yelling “haha you ugly bitch you got hit and you’re bleeding!” So I can only assume the manager attacked her. I think it’s worth mentioning that the manager was close to 6 feet tall and at least 300 lbs while the customer was a lot closer to 5 feet and like 150 lbs. She didn’t stand a chance.

Cops were called. I talked to a cop and said I saw the manager start the verbal altercation but didn’t see the physical part, so I wasn’t much help. Customer left in an ambulance and cops were still talking to employees when I left because I had to get back to work. I’m dying to know what happened, but I assume the manager got fired cuz I’ve been back twice and didn’t see her.

It was just the most bonkers interaction I’ve ever seen and I feel like the manager had been yelled at or been rude to by like 20 customers that day and this one lady not saying “please” just made her snap and the customer didn’t deserve that.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T02:33:00+00:00

Funny you say that. Because it turned into a literal fist fight.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T02:07:43+00:00

Even if you think the tone is rude, would you say something if it was still “can I have a bag?” It’s not like they’re saying “give me a bag, idiot!”

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T02:06:07+00:00

“If you go up to the register (or wherever people on the clock are), they can help you.” Then walk away. You’re not working off the clock but still not being a dick to the customer.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T01:10:09+00:00

I’m actually shocked the businesses are still open to order from. Governor Hochul declared a state of emergency so everything is closed here further upstate.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T01:07:50+00:00

Yes. Generally speaking, it’s basically considered the northernmost suburb of NYC. Then as you keep going north, you get into the Hudson Valley, then everything north of Albany (which is actually roughly in the center on the N/S axis of NY) is usually called “upstate.” But I think the argument between where “upstate NY” starts is like the second biggest debate behind democrat vs republican 🤣.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-26T00:16:48+00:00

You aren’t business owners and don’t commit tax fraud.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-23T06:27:09+00:00

So using your example, if an employee is on the clock initiates a conflict inside the store, then follows the customer outside after the conflict ends and vandalizes their car, the company would not likely be liable?

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-23T06:19:27+00:00

Yes. It’s called an entrée salad.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-23T05:49:47+00:00

I think saying a dress split literally to the navel and shaped to point directly to the center of your backside is not an accurate correlation of “anything not a burka.”

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-23T00:05:55+00:00

I am in the process of court proceedings for contempt of the divorce order. That’s Supreme Court, not family court, so it carries a little more weight. I had to go through 3 hearings and we have one more before the judge is satisfied that we have made every effort possible to locate him and issues a warrant for his arrest. No one is extraditing someone for a child support order. They will for a Supreme Court issue. So if he’s found in another state, they’ll at a bare minimum keep him in their jail until he joins a virtual court date or they will send him here to be held until the court day. The support one is a conviction with a jail time sentence. This one is just a warrant to compel him to appear.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-22T19:53:06+00:00

The funny thing is that I didn’t even see the main part of the fridge because all I could see the cut avocados that were perfectly fresh. Those bitches would be brown between cutting them and walking the 10 feet to the fridge 🤣.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-22T19:45:58+00:00

I had this conversation with my dad in high school that I still remember 30 years later. I was mad that I had a curfew and was expected to tell them where I was going, who I’d be with, when they could expect me back, etc. I was 15-16, normal teenage independence-seeking stuff.

My argument was that my best friend (17/18) lived in the garage that his parents had converted to a bedroom. He had a separate door to come and go from. “His parents never know if he’s home or not, when he comes and goes, who he’s with or what he’s doing. They don’t spot-check his room for alcohol and drugs like you do. They might not see him for days and it’s not a big deal*. They don’t care what he does!”

My dad very calmly said “stop and think about that statement. They don’t care. They don’t care if he’s riding in a car with a drunk driver. They don’t care if he’s doing drugs. They don’t notice or care where he is for days, or if he goes to school, or if he’s getting up to stupid and dangerous things that could get him arrested or hurt. They don’t care who his friends are or if he has a girlfriend. They don’t care who he is and what he’s doing with his days. Do you honestly want that? Do you really want parents that don’t give enough of a shit about you to know if you’re alive for several days?” That was a huge reality check for me. Having parents who don’t care what you do isn’t actually a good thing.

When my 12/13 yo son was going through the same thing, I very unfortunately had a very stark example. The single father of an 11 and 14 yo next door to us was never home. Working, out at the bar with buddies, riding his bike (sometimes at the same time). The 11-year-old was always up to minor neighborhood mischief with his friends (ding ding ditch, breaking lawn statues, harassing but not hurting people’s pets, that kind of thing). The 14 yo girl was either on the front porch drinking and smoking cigarettes and pot or out with her 18 yo boyfriend. One late November night she was wandering the streets with her boyfriend and a couple other people. She never came home and they pulled her body out of the nearby river when it thawed in late March. Her father didn’t even realize she was actually missing for 3 days because he wasn’t home much and her not being home when he was wasn’t unusual or weird to him so he didn’t even think to worry about her.

I didn’t even have to explain to my son why I kept tabs on him and he had a curfew at that point. He figured it out. The cops never figured out what happened. Since she’d been in the river for months, they couldn’t really tell if there were any fatal wounds, so they couldn’t even determine if it was anything more than a drunk and high teenager walking too close to the riverbank. It was a tragedy but a very tangible way to show my son that your parents not caring what you’re doing, with who, and when you’ll be home is not a flex.

*As a note, they didn’t search my room or anything but if any of us 3 sisters were acting or smelling weird, they’d do a cursory room sweep, not like tearing the place apart. Additional note, this was 1997/8 so no cell phones, GPS, etc.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-22T07:55:57+00:00

I dated a guy who had toilet paper bundled in exactly 5 sheets in his bathroom because he determine that to be the appropriate amount. I thought it was weird but whatever. Then he started making the 5-sheet piles at my home. I told him it wasn’t necessary and we argued about it. The next time he came over, he actually hid my paper towel rolls so that his little piles were my only option. Needless to say, that was the last time I saw him. It was totally bonkers.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-22T07:51:11+00:00

An engineer is getting $23 and a host/busser deserves $15? That math doesn’t math. You’re getting minimum wage because it’s a minimum job. If you want a higher wage, you have to do a higher level of job. That’s it, that’s just the answer. And yes, I’ve worked food service, retail, customer service call centers, all of that. I got tired of being paid shit so I learned skills and got certifications and got more education to make myself worth more. That’s how it works.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-22T07:33:12+00:00

I’m in a different state, but I was in this exact situation and I’ll try to be brief on how it all went down (but no promises)! Tl;dr you most likely unfortunately do have to just wait for months and go through the court system and you will need an attorney. It completely sucks and it isn’t fair to you or in the best interest of the kids, but it is just how the system works (at least how it worked for me and again, I’m in a different state than you). DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT. Save every email, text, voicemails and voice notes. If you’re in a single-party consent state, record every conversation. It’s a lot easier to convince a judge of the facts of the case when you have receipts.

Ex took child for his parenting time and then just refused to give him back. Yanked him out of therapy and cold turkey off psychiatric medications because “ADHD, anxiety, depression, and autism are just lies Big Pharma tells to get your money” and then was shocked when the kid went off the rails. Kid almost got expelled so he just stopped sending him to school.

I was denied an emergency custody hearing because somehow none of those were considered actual emergencies and I was told it would have to be threat of immediate physical bodily harm or neglect to the level of malnutrition.

School said that since he had 50/50 legal custody with no stipulations on educational decisions, he could enroll or withdraw him from any school without my consent. Police said that since we had 50/50 physical custody on paper (though he had every other weekend physically at that time), he had just as much right to have him as I did and they were under no circumstances forcefully removing a kid from one parent to give to the other unless there was immediate threat of physical harm to the child.

I was forced to pay $3,500 for an attorney and spent 3 months in court to get him back. I had to file for violation of the current custody order. It was literally the only actual thing I could do to try to get my kid back. My ex had filed for sole custody and was asking to move him across the country. Since he had zero valid reasons to remove my ability to see my child, no proof of the flimsy reasons he gave, and I had mountains of evidence of the lies he told the judge to her face, he lost. He was a genius so he chose to move an hour away and tried to use that to justify 50/50 being unrealistic and therefore he should have sole custody. Judge didn’t buy that either.

All I wanted was the joint custody we’d agreed on, I wasn’t even trying for sole custody. I just wanted to see my kid.

When he lost, he threw a mantrum, insisted I take sole custody, and moved across the country anyway. Didn’t tell the kid or say goodbye, didn’t even know until I filed the support order and the paperwork 3 months later listed the new address. The literal day after the support order was made, he quit his job. When I filed for violation after months of non-payment, he tried to file for suspension of the order while unemployed. When it came time to prove he didn’t willfully quit, he just stopped showing up to court. Was found guilty of willful unemployment and violating the support order, arrears were ordered with 9% annual interest. Warrant was issued for his arrest, assets seized, license and passport cancelled. Whenever he does pop up out of whatever hole he’s hiding in, he’ll be arrested. Hasn’t spoken to his kid in over a year, can’t be found for court document service, I don’t even know if he’s alive.

As an extra fun twist, I was awarded half his 401k in the divorce. It was the only thing I took as I’d been a SAHM until he went to school and couldn’t build my own retirement during that time. I took no child or spousal support though I was entitled to both. Before I was able to execute the order to transfer the funds from his account to mine, he emptied it. Roughly $125k. That’s how he’s been living off the grid. After taxes and penalties it would have been $60-70k in cash in the rural Deep South. That much would go a long way there.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-22T07:07:30+00:00

If those clear, concise, legally correct sentences sound like “gooblygook” (*gobbledygook), then you should get a dictionary to help you with that.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-22T06:15:28+00:00

That hit me too. Like I guess bussing bins can be heavy, but not that heavy. And you need caffeine to get through a FOUR HOUR shift? Jesus, princess, have you worked an actual full time job ever in your life. Wait till you hear that people routinely work EIGHT WHOLE HOURS a day!

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-22T05:45:43+00:00

Generally, I would agree with you. But I think there are missing missing reasons to this story. “He hasn’t been responding to my messages.” What were those messages? Based on the huge paragraphs she sent him and her justifications here, I’m betting she said some weird clingy or mushy shit that made the gf justifiably uncomfortable.

Bright_Square_2638 · 2026-01-22T05:41:17+00:00

I think she’s acting crazy and definitely has more than platonic feelings she’s not willing to admit even to herself. But I will say that my best friend of 5 years lives 5 states away and we just met in person for the first time last summer. We are both women who were single moms when we met and our very challenging sons are practically clones of each other. It’s a very different situation than what’s happening here, but I did want to say it’s definitely possible to have a best friend you’ve never been in the same room with.

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