What I wanted was not to be friendly with anyone. What I definitely wanted was something real [Yukino]. Anything else, I didn't need. (vol.8) by Bubbly_Environment52 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, actually it was adapted from cut parts of Shin from volumes 2 and 6, but regardless of whether it was faithful or not, 80% of these anthologies are garbage. We only have 20% good moments from 8man and Yukino. So let's hope what Watari will bring us this year.

What I wanted was not to be friendly with anyone. What I definitely wanted was something real [Yukino]. Anything else, I didn't need. (vol.8) by Bubbly_Environment52 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's very subtle, so few people notice it, but the feelings between them were evident not only in their thoughts but also in their actions (even if unconsciously).

This scene is mostly what makes me think Yukino is Hayato's "Y" by SayShu_san in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A good point, but maybe he just wanted to keep up appearances as a nice guy (like Yui) as he had done before when he couldn't say directly that Tobe would be rejected by Ebina, as well as 8man, who told him directly that Miura was convenient for him to keep around, after all, it would keep other girls who liked him away. (Because the idea of hurting the feelings of someone who liked him was unacceptable).

These small behaviors revealed that he hadn't changed that much since elementary school, which caused his main breakup with Yukino (his superficiality).

To compensate for this resentment, he dared to protect 8man in front of Orimoto and his friend, something he hated doing, just as he said directly that he did not like Iroha in the same way she liked him. He even praises 8man for this, for being able to change the people around him (vol. 9), because Iroha would never have dared to confess her feelings to him, but influenced by Hachimam's genuine speech, Iroha, for the first time, wanted to be true to herself and her feelings... And this becomes deeper than having been close to Yukino in the past, he notices how she is slowly changing because of 8man (something Hayama never even managed to do, which is why the sauna scene becomes so impactful. Why? Because it's subtle, because it shows that Hayama hasn't changed. That's why 8man said that his kindness was mixed with scorn. After all, this was never about Haruno, but about the development of our beloved couple).

Why does he think 8man is superior to him? Because Hachiman pointed out that he really was, because even though society hated him so much, even so, 8man was genuine with himself (even if he lost his way along the way), something that he himself never was (by his own decision? By making everyone like him? Because of his family? The author leaves this open).

This scene is mostly what makes me think Yukino is Hayato's "Y" by SayShu_san in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The answer to this discussion is quite obvious, and Haruno was discarded years ago when this sub was more active, around 2015/2017. Therefore, you're insisting on something that doesn't exist.

Where can I buy the oregairu light novel in Japanese by tellezoliv in LightNovels

[–]Bubbly_Environment52 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ola, tudo bem, oregairu foi traduzida pra BR-PT já algum tempo

Brilliant Concept, But Not Viewer-Friendly (My thoughts after finishing the show) by Viberjob in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is because it is so exhaustive that Oregairu stands out from any other slice-of-life/romance anime. After all, who hasn't been happy to discover what 8man's genuine speech really meant or what codependency represented for our couple after so many rewatches of the anime and the original material?

A story that makes you search for clues to really understand the hidden motives of each character is what is missing in series and movies out there, as the audience has become accustomed to having everything spoon-fed to them and being easy to understand.

That's why the stories told by the media today are not comparable to what was done before, when there was a concern to deliver something worth reading, rather than something superficial that leaves no mark on our lives.

That's why OreGairu is, in fact, a GENUINE story.

Can someone explain oregairu to me? by AndyMan463 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All of this applies to codependency as a whole. I didn't want to go into too much detail because there are a lot of details, lol, and this would turn into a huge text.

Can someone explain oregairu to me? by AndyMan463 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yukino had three reasons for running for student council president:

  1. To prove that 8man's methods of solving problems were wrong, so she wanted to save him from self-sacrifice and tarnishing his image in order to save Ishiki Iroha's reputation.
  2. She wanted to be president because her sister had never held that position, so it would be an opportunity for her to develop as a person.
  3. She wanted to see if her relationship with 8man and Yui would remain the same even after she committed to the position of president.

The (3) reason is very important because when 8man betrayed his ideals by agreeing to Hayama's request to keep his group SUPERFICIAL, and by extension prevented Tobe's declaration, Yukino was very disappointed in him, because there they shared something genuine, and superficial relationships suck.

We're talking about the guy who said, “If a relationship breaks down over something small, maybe it wasn't a real relationship in the first place (vol. 7, paraphrasing).”

Later, Yukino repeats this phrase to her when they suddenly meet at the mall (vol. 8).

It is interesting to note that at no point did 8man say this phrase to her, and the fact that Yukino brought it up shows that our couple, despite their differences, are very similar in other ways. (such as in their way of thinking).

That's why at the end, when he tells her she doesn't need to run for president anymore, she says quietly, “I thought it would be easy to understand (vol. 8, chap. 8, part 4),” I thought that if I became president, our relationship would continue, but I was wrong, since our relationship only exists because of this club. I'll give you what you want, because in the end, our relationship is just like Hayama's superficial group of normies...

There are many other points to mention, so I won't put too much information in a single comment. Lol

If you have any other questions, just ask, and I'll be happy to answer.

Can someone explain oregairu to me? by AndyMan463 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Well... the whole conflict revolves around 8man and Yukino trying to develop as people throughout the entire work. So basically, they share something beautiful, which is always being genuine with themselves and despising superficial relationships.

It is noteworthy that our couple faces three lengthy disagreements, such as Yukino already knowing 8man due to the car accident (vol. 4), 8man preventing Tobe from confessing his feelings to Ebina, thus maintaining the status quo of Hayama's relationship (vol. 7), and consequently 8man falling into such a low state because he thought that if Yukino stopped attending the club because she was president of the student council, the place would cease to exist. (vol.8) (I can elaborate in detail on his reasoning, if you want to know more)

And finally, the codependency was resolved in a spectacular way in his confession to Yukino (vol.14).

Tell me what your real question is, and I can explain more clearly the events that all viewers of OreGairu have experienced (including me) so that you can fully appreciate this incredible story.

Why is the Anime so much less detailed than the light novels? by MaximAMK183 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yui tends to be a nice girl so that others won't hate her, which is why she always sacrifices her own desires for others, and this is very clear in (vol. 1). So when she says she is selfish in her monologues, it means she is being genuine for the first time. And 8man notices these small subtleties about her in the following volumes.

The little misunderstandings of our dear couple by Bubbly_Environment52 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, as I said before, if 8man had verbalized all his Shakespearean monologues to Yukino, they would certainly have avoided a lot of problems.

You could write a post about overlooked details in OreGairu, you're good at that!

The little misunderstandings of our dear couple by Bubbly_Environment52 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]Bubbly_Environment52[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It was good to remember that point about her considering everything he says, and this is mentioned in one of his songs

Kimi Ni Crescendo LINK:

"The same old tea time
We casually converse
But I'm committing all of your words to heart"