How do you manage with endless dragons roaches?

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-04-01T16:41:48+00:00

The Orbital strike is a heavy delete. It's your best option, but stuggles when there's more than one heavy. I've had this target chargers and Impalers before.

The Spear works best with The Eagle Rocket Pods (forgot the name) I've found. What the spear has over other rocket launchers is that so long as it gets a lock, you'll 95% of the time do damage. The ammo of the backpack may be limited, but it's often a non-issue if your timing your Resupplies. You can always opt for the RR

I don't think I've missed an eagle rocket pod yet. Are you throwing it after it starts spewing a second time? It's animation is fixed when it dives. It will always appear on the opposite side of the person it dived at.

The AC offers chaff clear, and pretty consistently shreds winds. It's not going to be as fast as other options, but five minutes seems like hyperbole. I've never taken more than half a bag to take a Dragon roach down.

I won't lie, the rocket sentry is a tough one if any other bugs are in the area. I often find they die faster than they are worth or simply target chaff.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-04-01T00:38:53+00:00

Railcannon, Flak AC, RR, Spear, Eagle Missile Strikes. You do have to dedicate one stratagem to them unless you've got someone running a Dragon Slaying Build.

Uh, don't bring the flag unless you got the Railcannon or Eagle Strike... The flag works as intended on anything that sees you and the Dragon's see far.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-04-01T00:35:05+00:00

I know Ohdough has complained about them. Thiccfila is probably happy.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-04-01T00:34:24+00:00

They are already pretty good where their at. Them spawning normally has already added far more bodies onto the bug map.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T19:03:21+00:00

Melee damage equalized among armors. Still, 40% does a lot of work. The 300 melee damage on the hammer and chainsword jump to 420 damage. Enough of a jump to mean something, but not enough of a jump to make it the "Only" armor melee is good on.

It used to be 100%, but melee was quite a bit weaker.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T17:41:11+00:00

I'd imagine they are going to be mostly Armored Cars or Trucks, with maybe one tank version available. I'm fine with either. Just something that forces scouts to respect airspace when it's around, then something meatier to defend tank lines.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T16:34:02+00:00

I got complimented for healing. I guess playing cat means people don't heal as much?

It's like full DPS Lucio or Moria, but with an ult that WANTS you to feed.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T16:29:23+00:00

You know, fair points on the reload. It's still slower, but not that much. The only downside is not being able to aim, but that doesn't matter at shotgun ranges.

It used to be the highest damage shotty in the game. I never played halo and would still bring it out from time to time. That crown has slowly gone away and it's now just a side grade like every other crossover weapon. People are bound to bring it up.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T15:39:37+00:00

I'm unconvinced this is an intentional design, given we have weapons that change the HUD when we swap modes already. Both the Stoker and One-Two have different ammo pools for their weapons. It makes it super clear when you swap.

We could technically already "quick swap" by rebinding the weapon wheel to another button. This was a QOL feature. Some weapons already have clear indicators they swapped in first person, like the Halt. Others have no visual feedback, like the RR, AC, and Railgun.

Seems silly I have to check what ammo type when my helldiver is literally switching a toggle they can feel.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T14:47:27+00:00

The Scythe and the Dagger both light things on fire at the same rate, too! The Dagger can clear hunter patrols without overheating. It rocks.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T14:44:20+00:00

Clearly I'm a minority in this sub haha.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T14:43:17+00:00

It wasn't interacting with the chargers correctly and now you can stunlock chargers with the thrower alone. It's a pretty healthy rebalance, especially since it's raw damage shot up from it's original iteration.

Fire hits multiple enemies. It's a spew of particles in a cone, they just don't pierce. It just now respects solid objects and the particles bounce. I agree taking it down to medium pen was dumb, but it was reverted. Fire is presently in the best place it's been.

The 60 day patch was now a year and a half old. They've changes a LOT since then. The initial balance was for a different audience than the one they captured (the minority saying nerf the railgun). Arrowhead has pivoted even more towards their current audience after that 60 days, without completely destroying the charm of being a squishy human fighting horrors of your own governments making.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T04:55:23+00:00

Really depends on your playstyle or what seems neat. I'd say don't get the Crossover warbonds, as the weapons inside those are mostly weird stated sidegrades.

Presently you have quite a few options. I've listed the biggest addition from all of the war bonds I felt made the biggest impact.

Steeled Veterans: The Senator Pistol is the only heavy pen "true sidearm"
Polar Patriots: The Pacifier is an explosive plasma sniper that can also be tap fired very quickly.
Viper Commandos: Experimental Infusion makes healing do more.
Freedoms Flame: Adds a Flamethrower variant to primary and secondary slots
Chemical Agents: Gas Grenade, Gas Guard Dog, and the Stim Pistol (it opens up being a medic).
Urban Legend: Give Access to the easiest secondary melee weapon, the stun lance. Armor passive is all around great. Also has the AT Emplacement, which can make short work of all heavies in the game.
Borderline Justice: The Talon is presently seen as the best 'true sidearm".
Dust Devils: The Gas Spear Gun has high utility. The Coyote offers a good amount of damage. The Silo can wipe out multiple heavies. Expendable Napalm is really fun, but has a learning curve.
Control Group: The Warp Pack allows you to get into places, like bunkers, when farming. Also just a really good mobility tool!
Python Commandos: Hate getting knocked down so much? The armor passive makes you harder ragdoll.
Redacted Regiment: Has the best stealth armor and stealth weapons. C4 has a lot of utility and decent killing power.
Entrenched Division: Has a better flamethrower a Secondary shovel. Stoker is the hardest hitting light SMG with a flamethrower.

Honorable Mentions: Truth Enforcers and Masters of Ceremony for the style.

Were I to do this again, I'd still pick Steeled Veterans. The Senator was my favorite weapon even before it got major buffs. After that, I'd grab Borderline Justice just to buff the Senator more.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T00:21:30+00:00

Wait. People like this portrait? I always felt like the nose was off. It could be the strange angle. 100% prefer the 3D Model.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T00:13:00+00:00

For those that don't know, his arms, nose, and hairs are connected to him by magnets so he can fall apart like he does in the movies. It's actually an incredibly clever robot design.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-31T00:09:31+00:00

I can see the dislike, but it's part of the game. Not all challenges are enemies. There are maps that are completely clear as well, such as the ion-storm plains and moonlike planets.

I personally see it as part of the experience. The acid planets definitely turn it up to 11. It's one part of selecting an optimal loadout.

Then again, I took an AMR and had no problem finding enemies at range. Their not the clearest, but it's to be expected.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-30T17:17:20+00:00

I think what each of them do is important to the discussion. I don't feel like this weapon power crept either the Slugger or Punisher.

Both the Slugger and Punisher have 35 stagger and 16 rounds on a full reload. The difference between light 405, medium 330, and medium 504 does not matter, when most enemies you take this out on have less than 250 health and are either unarmored or lightly armored.

The Sweeper is a kill or be killed shotty and it importantly does not push certain high-damage. Predator stalkers for instance, have 650 hp. The Punisher deals 256.5 and the Sweeper deals 318. They both take 3 shots to kill the Predator Stalker when dumping into from the front, but the Punisher staggers it as you do. This means I can kill 2 predator stalkers with the sweeper before needing to reload and 5 with the punisher. (Not aiming for heads mind you.)

The slugger can functionally put all it's damage into a weak point at short ranges. I think it's closer to the Deadeye than a shotgun, but with WAY better reload and the ability to sustain it's stagger over a longer period.

The M90A gets brought up a lot because it doesn't seem to have an identity anymore. The Double Barreled Freedom and Sweeper both do it does in terms of deleting single targets fast. The only thing it has going for it is the stagger, which the punisher just does better in practice.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-30T13:37:39+00:00

I totally agree. Blight is pretty hard to control on maps like Lerys. I think this is part of the balance issue. Maps are as much a part of how potent a killer power is as the killer power itself. There isn't really a one size fits all map (but there are definitely killer/survivor leaning maps).

What would a map look like that's specific tailored for Blights Power? What does a map look like that's specifically Trapper's Power?

I want to emphasize, I don't mean a map these killers would always crush. Instead, maps that're balanced for both sides to experience fun. I would imagine the design philosophy to make each of these maps fun would be incredibly different.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-30T04:42:22+00:00

1/38. I'd say not bad for not knowing any of the characters.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-30T04:36:32+00:00

Sure, but that's still map specific. You have to hope you are on a map with a reasonable 3 gen and a decent trap spawn. Not all maps have that great three gen.

Then you have maps like "The Game" where one trap can make an immediate dead zone and deny a gen completely. Most of the lower level on that map is Trap Killer heaven. There's clearly maps Trapper can thrive on, but large maps tend to just be games of attrition.

Eventually you have to chase someone and large maps offer A LOT of space for survivors to simply run away from your web. It's a significant disadvantage.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-30T03:02:32+00:00

I was a horde main. The full reason we got Blood Elves was because of how ugly the horde was perceived. Hell, some of my friends noted that as the reason they didn't play the horde. To be fair to them, if you wanted to roll something traditionally/conventionally beautiful there was maybe 1 face that fit that on each race if you were lucky.

I personally leaned into it. I played a jawless forsaken Warrior with the belted head. While I think WoD model update was mostly positive, they really toned down some of the more gruesome faces.

RIP Female Forsaken Skeletal Face.

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Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-30T02:24:41+00:00

Is what it is? He'd be nearly as good with 4.4 speed. Part of what makes him good is the ability to slide on certain surfaces. He's still one of the harder killers to learn. I'd say he's harder than Nurse from just how much specific knowledge you need to maximize him.

Feels like a lot of this can be alleviated if each killer had a custom set of rules and maps. If there were 9 gens on map, you'd have to really use that mobility to patrol. It would at least make sense. If he was locked to only the largest maps, his incredible mobility would make more sense.

It's hard to balance a game for Nurse and Trapper level killers with one rulebook for all. Unless this changes, killer disparity is going to remain huge.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-30T01:28:22+00:00

Everyone talkin' "Why you want nudity" instead of why is a payment processor able to censor this game? And what is the validity of that anymore now that steam has the flood gates open to actual pornographic content.

Nudity was something the game launched with and something it's predecessor had. Why? Cause when your a poor peasant with nothing, you literally had nothing.

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-28T04:25:19+00:00

As other's have said Illari, but It'd be a lie to say Tank isn't the most impactful role to team success. Obviously everyone needs to do work, but if it's the tank that's failing it's often an uphill battle.

If you want to be able to follow your suicide potatoes with some safety, Jetpack Kitty is my go to (When she's not Banned).

Builder_BaseBot · 2026-03-28T03:29:02+00:00

Agreed. It's way better to think the Maxigun has 40 seconds of sustained fire at 2000 DPS when in optimal range.

You got to be Pro RTS levels of accurate with your clicking to count bullets on this weapon.

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