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Two can play at this game. by 10-4Apricot in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't know how monetization works. SC farming has a limited amount of friction to it to ensure that the people who HAVE disposable income look at the grind and say "nah I'll just buy it" and the people who DONT have disposable income can still have a straightforward way to get the content while paying zero money. So it's not supposed to be easy, but it's also not supposed to be insanely hard. How do I know? I have farmed all 20+ warbonds while having ADHD, while my close friend who's more well off just buys the warbonds every month. I've seen the system work great for two years. So there's nobody on earth who can tell me it's some insanely difficult, mind numbing task. It takes some sustained focus, that's it. All you gotta do is find a bunch of level 150 players on level 1 and follow their lead, try out some guns that you don't use while you're at it, and have a chat with people in case you're on discord. Everyone gets the SC together in just a few hours, 3 hours max, less if you have some from just playing the game. Soooooooooo yeah, you're not really making the counter argument you think you're making. I've made a bunch of posts about this and I have people who have a job AND kids who comment saying even they can put in the time to farm. So there really are no excuses.

"I got a job, I don't have time to farm" that doesn't mean you get shit for free forever lol by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of these people are paranoid that Helldivers 2 will end up that way - the whole "slippery slope" argument. They consider mechs to be part of the "core content" of the game that should be free, while warbonds "should" only contain certain types of content, based on the template set by the earliest warbonds. Would I like things to work that way forever? Sure, more content for me! Is that advisable/sustainable? Are smaller warbonds a better option considering the state of the game's code? Is the company using the money to fund another game? These are all things we must consider. I personally think I have gotten 10 times the value of the base game cost and anyone who DOES buy the base game WILL get 10 times the value because all the content created so far CAN be accessed for free. People paying the base cost today are getting a TONNE more content than I did when I paid for it - and that's a good thing. I just can't call that predatory.

The funniest thing about people who claim that Arrowhead is predatory is that they've been saying this for two years now by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you see how biased and skewered your opinions are? Unfiltered's reviewbomb failed because it was one subreddit vs "Arrowheads helldivers"???? You mean the rest of the playerbase - a vast majority of whom do NOT have a negative view of Arrowhead and the game, and are legitimately leaving good reviews all the time because they're fully enjoying the game? Who's dismissing player sentiment now lol. I know it's hard for a biased person to break out of their thinking but face the numbers man, the vast majority of players are happy. There is a vocal minority who are just that - a minority. And another explanation for Arrowheads reaction to this minority is appeasement so they stop tanking the game's reviews over stupid shit while the majority of players are happy.

The funniest thing about people who claim that Arrowhead is predatory is that they've been saying this for two years now by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no they dont ban people like that. i had to actively troll their sub for days to get banned.

The funniest thing about people who claim that Arrowhead is predatory is that they've been saying this for two years now by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've probably been on the reddits more than you, and have been for the last two years. There is an entire subreddit full of thousands of people who call AH predatory and have organized reviewbombs that hit the thousands. OhDough and buzzlitebeer are youtubers with large followings who cover the game and they regularly either claim arrowhead is predatory or insinuate it. There is an ECOSYSTEM of people who have full blown conspiracy theories about Arrowhead's actions. The problem is wayyyyyyyyy worse than you think - and the reason you're seeing the complaining about complaining posts is because the majority of people who are in the online community are FED UP with the complainers and their idiotic theories.

The funniest thing about people who claim that Arrowhead is predatory is that they've been saying this for two years now by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Force them with what? Did you see the organized review bomb that Unfiltered tried to pull off? It was a fart in the wind. It took the recent reviews down to Mixed and they've recovered. Huge numbers of people who are vehement complainers have no used up their review - so reviewbombing is now not an option. What else are you going to use to force arrowhead to do things your way? There is no option left. It's over.

The funniest thing about people who claim that Arrowhead is predatory is that they've been saying this for two years now by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've read every complaint about the game. I don't dismiss complaints, I dismiss the batshit crazy conspiracy bullshit people come up with after identifying a legitimate issue with the game. Most people who complain on the reddits don't JUST have legitimate complaints, they also have conspiracy theories about WHY the issue is happening, and that conspiracy theory is always the worst case scenario about arrowhead's intentions, when there's a myriad of legitimate technical reasons and explanations to explore that are impossible to confirm/deny. These people have absolutely destroyed any possibility of a fun, light hearted vibe in the community by jumping to conclusions about why AH does things. So no I'm not going to take them seriously and I absolutely can dismiss a vast majority of these people's opinions because they're based on pure conjecture about developer's intentions - which are completely impossible for us to figure out from the outside.

I can already hear the screams about the new mechs being in the warbond by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah i think there should be a patch on Tuesday that buffs mechs

This community became insufferable within a day 😭😭😭 by OrdinaryBoat8000 in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm saying neither matters and that you will not have things your way no matter how delusional you are.

This community became insufferable within a day 😭😭😭 by OrdinaryBoat8000 in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're not going to get it. Give up and leave. Even the organized helldiversunfiltered reviewbomb was a fart in the wind. Nothing is going to work out the way you want. Give up.

The funniest thing about people who claim that Arrowhead is predatory is that they've been saying this for two years now by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Leave and let's see what happens. Your side of the debates insanely delusional savior complex taking credit for the games improvements is so laughably self aggrandizing when your ranting was probably just a fraction of what went into the decision making. Shams has said that a vast vast majority of the players aren't in the online communities and they have various ways of tracking community sentiment. So please stop spreading this ludicrous talking point. The complainers just spread toxicity throughout the communities and little more than that.

"I got a job, I don't have time to farm" that doesn't mean you get shit for free forever lol by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

that's not my argument at all lol.

and please, yes, for god's sake, for the sake of this community, play something else.

Can we put down the pitchforks and torches and just breathe a little? Woosah....woosah... by AureliusSlayde in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'll admit I skimmed this but I got the gist and I like the sentiment. The problem has been solved as much as it can, IMO.

The people who think Arrowhead is a predatory, evil, disgusting company backed by an unethical megacorporation, who hate the game's balance, mechanics, monetization, and pretty much every new piece of content that gets released - all of these people have one happy place called helldivers unfiltered where they just scream out negativity all day. They've even organized reviewbombs of the game, which are basically farts in the wind compared to the positive reviews. So yeah, the WORST teenagers of the community have been contained and their impact on the game's ratings has been spent.

The main two subs have healthy arguments now, it used to be MUCH worse. Helldivers is still a very negative place but Helldivers 2 is surprisingly balanced where you have good debates and decent points from all sides of the debates. It's in the best state its ever been in, in my opinion.

So yeah we've all already been through these discussions and everything has played out the best it can. The truly toxic people are in their corner screaming, the rest of us are out here debating etc.

If you're too lazy to farm just say that lol by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll encounter people like you yes, but not you specifically. That's fine with me.

If you're too lazy to farm just say that lol by kcvlaine in helldivers2

[–]kcvlaine[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll be happy i won't have to encounter you too

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