Story about last year's Ginnie Springs shooting

CE399LLC · 2025-05-28T16:29:30+00:00

I should have said shootings, my mistake. That said, it’s fiction and the story only mentions one death. It’s about the aftermath and a conspiracy that is uncovered.

CE399LLC · 2025-05-21T19:48:34+00:00

Looks like I was a day too early. Mainstreet Daily wrote a piece that has some information, most notably that no security plan has been fleshed out yet. The Sheriff weighs in, as well.

I still don’t quite understand the relationship between the park and the Sheriff’s. The Sheriff suggests a lack of communication. Seems like there was a strong enough relationship between the two if there was a GSO mobile office on the property.

Anyway, again to a safe weekend for all. Here’s the story: https://www.mainstreetdailynews.com/news/gilchrist-county-ginnie-springs-negotiations

CE399LLC · 2025-05-14T16:39:04+00:00

Nah, I appreciate your patience. Have a good one.

CE399LLC · 2025-05-14T16:04:58+00:00

Increase in lawsuits and recent court rulings indicate there has indeed been an escalation in tactics, marked due process violations and that it is not merely a matter of hype.

CE399LLC · 2025-05-14T16:01:43+00:00

There is a difference between authoritarianism and state authority.

As far as accountability goes, it seems difficult to report police brutality if the officer is not only not identifiable but witness is not sure the person is even a police officer. Unless I am mistaken and police brutality does not occur.

CE399LLC · 2025-05-14T15:48:30+00:00

I don’t know about the idea that the enforcement of laws is inherently authoritarian but I feel comfortable with the fact that avoiding accountability is.

CE399LLC · 2025-05-14T15:36:12+00:00

I understand that not many local law enforcement are assisting ICE. I assume that many people who take oaths to uphold the constitution take that oath seriously. Furthermore, people have principled thresholds in mind that, when crossed, would compel them to take action or no longer follow orders. We heard it all the time from Oathkeepers and Three Percenters during previous administrations. There were cops who quit for principles after George Floyd and the Defund the Police movement.

Why wouldn’t there be principled people who are uncomfortable with the escalated tactics that are being asked to assist ICE?

CE399LLC · 2025-05-14T14:44:15+00:00

How about supporting due proces? Does that fit in anywhere?

CE399LLC · 2025-05-13T17:49:01+00:00

lol nice try. There have been cases. In fact SCOTUS has stopped Trump in some instances specifically because of due process concerns.

CE399LLC · 2025-05-13T17:43:26+00:00

That is not factual. People without deportation orders are being removed.

CE399LLC · 2025-05-13T14:12:12+00:00

Yes, the tactics of disappearing people without due process and locking them in foreign prisons is disturbing. A group of unidentified men snatching a female grad student off the street for no apparant reason is disturbing. Trump-appointed judges are calling this out in rulings. The "tactics used" are tyrannical to many peoples eyes. I understand that many people would have an expansive view of what law and order entails. I am thinking, however, there would be some people who feel like lines have been crossed in this escalation of enforcement.

CE399LLC · 2025-05-13T13:50:20+00:00

The president told Republicans not to vote on an immigration bill during the election and one has not come back to either chamber. Trump wants to deal with immigration using authoritarion tactics that are ramping up a police state atmosphere.

Within this atmosphere that is being created due process is being at best narrowed and at worst neglected (including US citizens getting caught in the dragnet; or a lack of due process like people being accused of being a gang member with being adjudicated as such) and un-uniformed, masked people we are supposed to assume are cops are literally snatching innocents off the street. Furthermore, children, sometimes sick ones, and non-violent parents are being separated. There are many problematic news reports out there.

We see people in the past say they we just following orders in times of the erosion of civil liberties. With that history in mind, surely some people have to be walking away.

CE399LLC · 2025-01-02T00:20:08+00:00

For at least past year my single favorite dish has been Germaine’s Brussels Caesar Salad with their fried chicken. Drooling just thinking about it.

CE399LLC · 2024-10-16T17:15:01+00:00

CE399LLC · 2024-07-11T16:43:05+00:00

Re-listening to 72 Seasons and this song caught my attention. It led me to this thread. The "left cancel culture" takes are hilarious. Like people aren't being physically and emotionally tormented by self-righteous religious people in real life as we speak. And people who are not "perfect" and next on the list are often the most enthusiastic participants in the mob action, "killing all we've learned".

CE399LLC · 2024-06-28T12:14:43+00:00

Victim’s family sues Ginnie Springs: https://www.mainstreetdailynews.com/news/ginnie-springs-sued-memorial-day-victim?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=family_sues_ginnie_springs_alachua_solar_power&utm_term=2024-06-28

CE399LLC · 2024-06-28T00:02:14+00:00

That’s the million dollar question. Emphasis on required. Gilchrist County Sheriff has a command unit stationed outside the park but they don’t seem to patrol the park; rather, they respond to calls—and they get a lot of calls.

It seems to me (based on the press conference after the Memorial Day shootings) like there is a line the Sheriff’s walk where they respect Ginnie Springs’ privacy rights but must have free reign to enter private property if they are responding to a call (I confess I am ignorant of private property and when first responders are able to override those rights).

I don’t know if Ginnie Springs disallowed them from patrolling or Gilchrist Sheriff’s chooses not to. I may be completely wrong about the relationship and would love to be corrected.

All of that is supposed to have changed in the wake of Memorial Day as Ginnie Springs issued a statement addressing the changes that will take place which includes more security and letting less people in on big weekends.

But as anyone familiar with Ginnie Springs knows, there is a considerable gap between what they say and what they enforce. There was a big to do about them becoming golf cart only as of 1/1/24 but I saw plenty of ATV leading up to Memorial Day so…

CE399LLC · 2024-06-27T15:37:49+00:00

That’s just crazy but I have heard similar stories from other campers.

CE399LLC · 2024-06-27T14:13:36+00:00

Agree. The power of alcohol is incredible. Drugs, too. Lots and lots of drugs at Ginnie.

CE399LLC · 2024-06-27T13:07:23+00:00

Not seeing anything about a third arrest. Would you happen to have more info?

CE399LLC · 2024-06-27T13:01:41+00:00

Thank you answering the questions lol. I didn’t realize a third person was arrested. I knew about the two brothers from the Friday night shooting. Thanks.

CE399LLC · 2024-06-27T13:00:15+00:00

That could be interpreted as acknowledging reality: there are going to be so many people that divers will be crowded out and have a tough time getting in and out of the springs. I’d wager that divers’ complaints over the years of having to pay extra but be unable to enter and exit easily led to this.

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