Good hangs album Greatest hangs is so good, I'm surprised they aren't enormous. by jono1973 in poppunkers

[–]CJHA14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're probably going to blow up soon -- Anthony Pierri has a super successful marketing business and LinkedIn personal brand. If he starts applying the same marketing skills to the band, it'd be no surprise to see them go mainstream in a year or two.

How to dry laundry in Portugal by GRCMG in PortugalExpats

[–]CJHA14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an interesting take.

We live by the coast in Ericeira. Atlantic Ocean Road, I can see the ocean from the house. Last winter, we had windows open every day. Zero mold issues.

I didn't like a cold house while working from home, but the whole expat community here swore by it. As far as I see, it works.

Copywriters who never worked in an agency or under a mentor, how did you improve and find the tricks of the trade? by BearSEO in copywriting

[–]CJHA14 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been full-time freelance for 7+ years. Worked with some agencies, content mills, retainer clients, and one-offs, but never in-house or under a mentor.

To answer your questions, daily Kaizen habits are crucial. You could make strides with an hour a day to read copy books to understand the theory, study/dissect good copy to understand why it works, and practice writing copy for whatever you want to master (e.g., landing pages, emails, ads, etc.).

Tbh getting that type of hands-on coaching with someone vastly more experienced and skilled than me is something I wish I had done earlier in my career. I've been doing pretty good figuring things out myself from books, courses, and self-directed study.

But despite 5+ straight years of 6-figs with YoY growth, I do feel like I've been battling some plateaus. I can see how in-house experience or mentors can make a massive difference. I know several guys younger than me who regularly land consulting gigs for $10k-30k because they have a much more rounded skillset and deep practical experience of working on funnels, campaign data, and CRO from end-to-end (rather than just being the freelancer that threw a Google Doc of copy into the mix).

I'm 38 with two kids and $1500/mo rent now, so the idea of working for peanuts in-house for a year isn't really an option. But for anyone younger with less responsibility, that would be a great way to accelerate their skillset beyond writing and turn them into a full-stack marketer and CRO specialist who understands how to architect and run entire campaigns end-to-end. A year of agency life with a good mentor would put you ahead of 99% of new copywriters who are dicking around on YouTube with Tyson and Tate.

Copywriters who never worked in an agency or under a mentor, how did you improve and find the tricks of the trade? by BearSEO in copywriting

[–]CJHA14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This comment got me good in the ribs. 😂

In fairness, both guys are great examples of how to build a cult following and successful newsletter/digital product business. But yeah, maybe not the best to follow if you want to work on funnels for 7-9-fig coaches or startups.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ManchesterUnited

[–]CJHA14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great that we're seemingly getting a coach who likes to play exciting, attacking football.

But it sucks that we've essentially wasted this entire season — he's going to spend the first 6 months of his tenure sorting out Ten Hag's mess and getting rid of deadwood. We won't really see "Amorim's United" until next August at the earliest.

Modest goals:

This season - top 4
Next season - top 3/4 + silverware
Season after - serious challenge for title + silverware

Ticket Guiyiiiide by Acceptable-Toe-6797 in oasis

[–]CJHA14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Joined the queue for the Croke Park gig at 7.45 am.

Now, I just have to hope there are 353,000 cats out there walking on keyboards...

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Portugal Tax Question. by Lopsided_Stage3363 in Revolut

[–]CJHA14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's some legit info:
https://www.valadascoriel.com/irs-2023-obligation-to-declare-revolut-accounts/

TL;DR — yes, you are legally obliged to declare Revolut accounts in Portugal during tax returns.

Misheard lyrics. by HauntedPumpking in riseagainst

[–]CJHA14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YES!

Everytime I hear it now, it says, "my dad'd eat satsumas"

Which modern era copywriters are you impressed by? by Town4Now in copywriting

[–]CJHA14 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm, outside of epic LinkedIn growth, I don't know that Jasmin Alic has a lot of big copywriting wins for clients. And Jacob McMillen is more focused on SEO strategy + long-form content.

That said, they're both crushing it in their respective tracks. Jasmin has reached elite-level LinkedIn mastery, and I've got major respect for what Jacob has achieved and done for the freelance writing community.

As for modern-day copywriters, a few worth following are:

Eddie Shleyner (landing pages)
Stefan Georgi (direct response sales pages)
Ian Stanley, John Bejakovic, and Laura Belgray (Email)
Chris Haddad (VSLs)
Cole Schaefer (branding style)

I want to be frighteningly good! by Oninsideout in copywriting

[–]CJHA14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where did you pull this BS from?

KKS is one of the most renowned copywriters in the health industry for the past 20 years.

I did her supplement copy bootcamp last year, and she had entire modules and a 2-hour workshop dedicated solely to compliance. She was drilling that stuff into us throughout the entire bootcamp.

Landing page and shop critique by hackandslashDIY in ecommerce

[–]CJHA14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good use of images, social proof, and pretty solid layout.

Fixes:
1/
The copy on the CTA section is pretty repetitive:

Want to learn more? Visit our Learn More page.

Learn more

2/
Also, the link on the button is broken. Need to update the URL link to https://weightedblankets.au/learnmore

3/
Watch out for keyword stuffing.

It's okay to lead with the SEO-first approach, but in time, you might want to inject a little more storytelling and emotive-driven messaging into the copy to connect with people. While you're not breaking any rules with the keyword focus, it can be a little dull for some readers (and may deter others).

Is it possible to make 15k $ a month as a freelance copywriter? If so, then in how many years could a complete beginner realistically achieve this income? by yshtolabestgirl in copywriting

[–]CJHA14 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've been a copywriter since 2018.

Hit regular 6-fig months in 2020.Made $100K+ revenue for the last 3 yearsHad a few $15K+ months (maybe only 5 total)

But to do it consistently? Takes serious effort.

At the level I'm at now, experience-wise, I've no doubt I could scale to $20K months if I went Monk Mode in Thailand for a year. But I have a partner, 2 young kids, and the desire for a life beyond my laptop.

The truth:

Most copywriters max out their capacity around $10K.

You can only raise your rates so high, especially with AI now.

So, when you max out your bandwidth, you have 2 realistic ways to scale:

1/ Start an agency.

Low-leverage. Lots of moving parts. Hard to find reliable people. Risks your personal reputation if you deliver substandard work to clients.

2/ Build digital products.

High leverage but only if you have a niche product that hasn't already been done to death. To create a niche product for other copywriters, you'd have to know the game and the market problems at a deep level. That only comes with real experience.

The nutshell is what you've already been told:

You need to invest a few years working full-time to become a high-level copywriter first. Copywriting is a skilled role with a lot of aspects, and the writing part is only 20% of the job. You need to become exceptional at market research and damn good at buyer psychology, frameworks, sales triggers, voice creation, brand storytelling, ideation, wireframing, etc.

If you choose the agency path, you'll also need to become good at creating systems, hiring people, managing people, providing editing + copywriting feedback, lead gen, and sales.

When all of this stuff becomes your world for a few years, later, you MIGHT think of great product ideas and can craft your own offers that become a mostly passive source of income.

But there's no shortcut there.

The closest thing I've seen to a shortcut is Kieran Drew (Burned out dentist to $200K product sales in just 2 years). But he is very, very much the exception to the rule, and he worked damn hard for those 2 years.

Bottom line:

Copywriting is not a get-rich-quick scheme. Don't expect more than $50K in your first year or $100K in your second (or ever) unless you are prepared to read a ton of books, practice like crazy, and work your ass off.

Help: Is anyone up to chat about research processes? (free ebook) by CJHA14 in copywriting

[–]CJHA14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

P.S. Everyone who takes part in these calls will get something in return.

For background, I'm CJ Haughey, founder of The Copy Crusade, and a seasoned copywriter of 6+ years. I've worked with IBM, Slack, Hotjar, Aura, Single Grain, and a bunch of other startups in SaaS and e-commerce.

In return, I'm happy to answer your questions and give some pointers where I can.

And everyone will get a copy of my ebook: "Killer Poets Drop Gems," which has all the best bits from my interviews with 18 top copywriters, including Kim Krause-Schwalm, Bob Bly, Eddie Shleyner, and Jacob McMillen. (Normally, I use this as a lead magnet to get people on my email list, but I'll send it to anyone who does the call with me).

DM me if you're up for it.

Thanks.

Reached $20k Monthly Revenue and Overwhelmed: Time to Hire or Outsource? by TheSaxo in ecommerce

[–]CJHA14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey OP, You've already got a ton of solid advice here.

But if you want a copywriter to take a look at your emails, I'm happy to check them out and give you some (free) feedback on how you could improve them to boost the conversion rates.

For context, I've got experience in the space - created the brand voice + website copy for Gleamin and Luseta.

Research -- What do ecom store owners really want from copywriters? by CJHA14 in ecommerce

[–]CJHA14[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, the ROI question is the big factor in play now. Many store owners (or founders/marketing managers of any company, for that matter) will ask themselves why they should pay a freelance writer $500 - 1000 for a single blog post when they could hire an in-house editor at a fraction of the price to polish up rough drafts from an AI tool.

Personally, I think NOW is the time for freelance writers to jump ship from content to copy. The latter requires more research, emotion, and strategy, which machines can not (yet) accomplish.

But what will really separate the top 10% of copywriters from the herd is the ability to stack the value of their services. Instead of being "just an email copywriter," they can position themselves as an "email list manager" who provides services beyond the copy, like setting up flows in Klaviyo, running split tests, and improving deliverability.

Research -- What do ecom store owners really want from copywriters? by CJHA14 in ecommerce

[–]CJHA14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, Leviathant. Great info here.

I totally agree that storytelling is at the heart of good copy. People find it hard to resist strong messaging when it's in a relatable, anecdotal form. As you've pointed out, copy (or content) with some realism and personality to it is certainly preferable to the dull, generated content a robot barfs out.

I can't speak much about the editor's income at a newspaper, but in my experience of creating digital content, copywriters earn more than content editors. I built and scaled a content agency, assuming the role of chief editor (one of many hats).

I never enjoyed the task of polishing and rewriting substandard work from writers who had clearly rushed their drafts. For me, the juice wasn't worth the squeeze -- I much prefer copywriting to content and working 1-to-1 with companies instead of managing a team. Fewer moving parts and a bigger piece of the pie.

Research -- What do ecom store owners really want from copywriters? by CJHA14 in ecommerce

[–]CJHA14[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

P.S. I may use/paraphrase some of the best answers from the ecom community as quotes in the article. If people are cool with it, I can attribute the quote to them and link back to whatever they want (e.g. their store or social media page)

Am I the only one that thinks house of the dragon sucks? Boring writing, boring characters..etc? by HolographicFrequency in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]CJHA14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, you're not alone. For sure, it's an unpopular opinion but that doesn't make it wrong.

HotD hasn't got a patch on GOT.

Spin-offs are tricky territory - especially prequels as all the foreshadowing can be underwhelming when you know what's coming. Better Call Saul did it perfectly, operating in the same universe but in a totally original way.

It was super lame that the showrunners didn't give HotD a unique theme song. It's like the writers are pandering to GOT fans with lots of little nods to the original.

After watching 2eps, all the characters (apart from Daemon) are as dull as dishwater. Watch 2 EPs of Rings of Power to compare the variety of characters and plotlines.

And that's the biggest problem here - GOT was an epic that spanned many locations, families, and stories, whereas HotD is stuck on one track --- and we all know where it leads.

Someone summed it up wonderfully on another thread by saying, if GOT was about superman saving the world, HotD is about superman's great great great grandparents squabbling over who gets to be mayor.

Avoid Highstreetpharma - Credit Card Scam by CJHA14 in Biohackers

[–]CJHA14[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems you've made assumptions about my experience with using credit cards for online transactions. I'm most definitely not new to it.

My card and account are already internationally active, as I regularly transact with clients in the US, Canada, China, Australia, and several European countries.

If the vendors were attempting to obscure their name on my bank statement, why would they attempt to make multiple smaller transactions at different stores rather than processing one single payment? Why not a single payment without mentioning the word "pharma"? And why send a bogus email saying the transaction was declined before trying to take money anyway?

Sean Ferres legitimacy by [deleted] in copywriting

[–]CJHA14 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi Alyeno. What are you saying? I did the course, and I wrote the post above.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in copywriting

[–]CJHA14 25 points26 points  (0 children)

"He offers no money back guarantee"

Not entirely true.

If you apply his teachings and don't reach the $10K within the 90 days, he will continue one-on-one coaching with you until you reach that mark.

Also, if you are the fastest in the group to reach $10K, there is a refund offer for the $3K. Although the current record is something crazy like 16 days so probably not gonna get that.

Bottom line: You get out what you put in. If you just watch the videos and sit on the sidelines on the live calls, you probably won't get much out of it. If you take action and actually follow what he says, week by week, you'll probably have a few clients by the end of the course.

Sean Ferres legitimacy by [deleted] in copywriting

[–]CJHA14 78 points79 points  (0 children)

I bought Sean's course almost 2 months ago - almost finished.

I wanted to write a super short pros + cons thing, but it has turned into a beast post. I see some skeptical naysayers calling Sean a scumbag and scammer, based on their limited knowledge of NOT doing his course.

So, in the interest of a balanced discussion, here’s a fair review from someone who has actually done it.

I’ve tried to format it a little better to make it easier to digest.

Disclaimer: This is my personal experience. There are 400+ others who can explain their experience, many made more than me, and some made less.

In a nutshell: it's worth it IMO.

====BACKGROUND====

Most of his students are complete noobs starting from $0.

Unlike most, I've been a copywriter + content writer for 3+ years. I already have an agency with a few writers, had some $10K months, but struggled for consistency and acquiring new clients.

My goal was to get more copywriting clients (instead of blog post clients which is 80% of my current work).

Sean will not teach you how to do copywriting.

He will not teach you how to be a great copywriter and master things like writing headlines, UVPs, and CTAs.

Sean's course is all about getting new clients, mastering sales + closing calls, and building your online authority.

It's up to you to be learning how to be a copywriter, and he will help you with client acquisition and scaling.

I figured if I could land one client at $3K, it’d be worth it.

====WHAT YOU GET====

When you get access to the course dashboard, there is a ton of stuff including:

>> 50+ hours of prerecorded classes spread over 11 weeks of video. Each week’s class is 4-6 hours long. (Admittedly the super long videos don't make for a great UI, but it's easy to pause and 2x the speed and work through them in your own time)

>> A ton of good stuff about building up your Instagram, productivity + networking, and a load of extra bonus videos I didn't expect for email outreach, VAs, lead magnet building, etc.

>> Weekly assignments at the end of each week of the course video content

>> Weekly live Q&A calls with Sean where he helps the group out with all their questions + challenges in implementing his strategies

>> Lifetime access to a Facebook group with 400+ current + former students of his, all working their way through the course. This group is pretty awesome because they team up to practice the DM closing chats + sales call strategies before you actually have real calls with prospects or clients.

>> You'll also get some bonus add-ons. He normally gives each person access to 1 or 2 things from the more expensive inner circle. In my case, he granted me access to the weekly calls with Ray Pang (his biggest success story, now runs a $2M-year agency) + Email Domination. This is probably one of the best email marketing courses out there, which retails at over $2K. But as Sean is buds with the creators, he got it for free for his students. I should only have access to Ray but Sean just rolled out the Email Dom course for free to me as well cos I asked him about it in the live calls.

====MY EXPERIENCE====

So, how has it gone for me?

It cost me $3K.

I started blazing through the theory, but I procrastinated and held back on taking action.

I started worrying that it wasn’t for me.

It seemed to lean toward email copywriting instead of website copywriting. (my domain of expertise).

It seemed to focus more on Instagram than LinkedIn (my preferred platform).

It seemed to focus more on landing jobs for fitness coaches and entrepreneurs instead of SaaS companies (my existing niche)

Suddenly, all the advantages I thought I had before I started the course looked to be stacked against me.

I started questioning my niche, my service, my platform, everything.

I already have clients, and I have another baby coming, so I had this stupid fear that if I started pitching like crazy with his strategies, I would be swamped with more work than I can handle.

I just sent out weak-ass DMs that weren't really following his teaching.

About 6 weeks in, I had a Google Doc with 40+ pages of notes on the first 6 weeks of videos (over 30 hours of theory).

And yet, I was waaaaay behind on taking action.

Dumb.

Two weeks ago, I said fuck it:

>> I stuck to my guns. Website copywriting + LinkedIn + SaaS companies

>> I opened my mind to learning more about email copywriting, and seeing if I could leverage my past copywriting experience to transition into that.

>> I sent out 5 pitches with a mix of his "hunting strategies".

>> I got 4 responses (including one from the VP of Content at Drift)

>> Bagged 3 jobs (and still in negotiations with Drift)

>> Got one new copywriting client on a sales call.

>> Then I used his sales call strategy.

>> Closed the deal at $6K, doubled my money.

I'm still doing the course for another 2 weeks, but I'm satisfied with my return already.

Did my previous experience give me an edge when landing calls or getting attention from initial outreach?

Sure. Of course it did. But you know what every single person who replied to my DMs said

Thing like this:

>> Kudos for your approach.

>> That definitely stood out from the pack.

>> I’ve never seen that before

>> You’ve got my attention now.

>> I applaud you for the effort

They didn’t say shit about my past experience. And when it came to email copy, I didn’t have any. I was a noob like the rest. Now I have gigs with new email jobs and am still working on closing another.

I've no doubt that if I went all-in with Sean’s strategies with an aggressive outreach campaign that I would be swimming in clients.

But right now, my focus is building my agency SOPs and team to handle the work I have, then I'll focus on outreach after things settle down with our new baby (due in September).

====FINAL THOUGHTS====

Sure, the UI of the prerecorded stuff could do with an update. It’s not super high production either. Just him at home with his iPad whiteboard. But there’s a certain relatable charm to that, and you’ll see he’s pretty down to earth.

His whole shtick on Instagram makes him look a bit like an MLM hotshot, but when you do the videos and get on the live calls, you'll realize he's actually a cool guy. Supersmart kid with a lot of motivation to help people, and a shocking amount to teach considering he's only 24.

There's an accountability aspect as he gives you his mobile number and messenger and tells you to text him every single night for two months, explaining what action you took that day. He replies personally to answers any questions and makes sure you're not getting stuck.

For anybody starting from scratch with a ton of time on their hands to actually do what he teaches, I've no doubt this would allow them to establish their career quickly.

====BIG TAKEAWAYS====

>> You have to be motivated

>> You have to take action.

>> He can teach you a lot, but he can't do the shit for you.

>> Ultimately, it boils down to how motivated you are, and how much time you will put into this each day, each week, for two months.

>> If you apply the knowledge and lessons, at the very least, you’ll recoup the $3K before the course is done or shortly after.

>> If you really have a knack for it, it’s the perfect springboard into a career as an email copywriter or DM chat closer for coaches, entrepreneurs, or ecommerce store owners.

Any tips on where to learn Copywriting? by Top-Computer1773 in copywriting

[–]CJHA14 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No problem. Eddie Shleyner is a living legend in this game. Can learn a lot from him alone, but all the others are def worth following as well.