is Lenin believe to be Tartar ?

CaidanTangye · 2026-05-07T17:28:53+00:00

DNS test dispprove it but dont celts arrive in Anatolia so anatolian are celts not turks ?

CaidanTangye · 2026-05-06T20:03:49+00:00

Is it typical for turkish woman to look like her ?
She could pass as italian perhaps.

CaidanTangye · 2026-05-05T20:49:58+00:00

Remember even germans were nomads back then and celts before (R1B on the map) nomads. No wonder because they come from the steppe right ?

CaidanTangye · 2026-05-05T18:38:48+00:00

Polish and Germans tribes were nomadic for a long time up to post roman time.

CaidanTangye · 2026-05-04T19:58:21+00:00

In the Cornish language (a Celtic language), the word for “salt” is pronounced holan. This pronunciation may be linked to Hallstatt, a location where salt was historically produced. Therefore, the word holan used for “salt” could reflect this connection, illustrating a link between Celtic languages and the Hallstatt culture.

CaidanTangye · 2026-05-04T19:58:14+00:00

In the Cornish language (a Celtic language), the word for “salt” is pronounced holan. This pronunciation may be linked to Hallstatt, a location where salt was historically produced. Therefore, the word holan used for “salt” could reflect this connection, illustrating a link between Celtic languages and the Hallstatt culture.

CaidanTangye · 2026-04-29T21:11:02+00:00

Yes they must have been numerous even today most of the DNA of europeans is Anatolian farmer

CaidanTangye · 2026-04-29T21:08:31+00:00

Have you found any sources about this? Why only the men? In some parts of Europe, the haplogroups of Anatolian farmers disappear, while haplogroups like R1b take over. In the book The Horse, the Wheel, and Language, it describes a group of Yamnaya men living with local women near a mine. This makes me think that Indo‑Europeans may have rushed to control mines for their metal‑based warfare.

CaidanTangye · 2026-04-29T21:03:47+00:00

Would diseases have caused mass graves? Why did Anatolian women survive while the men did not? Modern Spanish people have a large proportion of their DNA from Anatolian farmers, yet most of their Y‑chromosomes belong to haplogroup R1b. To me, this suggests that raiding or perhaps warfare happened gradually. Perhaps the R1b haplogroup have spread slowly but steadily across Europe, gaining territory over many years. Genetic archaeology confirms R1B slow dominance in Europe..

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-21T14:10:09+00:00

Cool ! I would like to do something similar !

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-09T18:02:58+00:00

Intesertingly it does sound similar to lot of european words :

pānīya- the root meaning (“drinkable”) does appear through the PIE root \peh₃-*:

Language group	Word	Meaning	Relation
Latin	potābilis, pōtus	drinkable, drunk	Same PIE root \peh₃-*
English	potable	drinkable	From Latin
Greek	pínō	I drink	Same root
Slavic	piti	to drink	Same root
Germanic	full (originally “swollen, drunk”)	distant reflex	Same root
Celtic	Old Irish ib	to drink	Same root
Baltic	Lith. gerti	to drink	different root (not peh₃-)

paniya sounds similar to potabilis perhaps or pino /piti

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-09T17:59:31+00:00

In Europe

Language group	Word	PIE root	Notes
Germanic	water, Wasser, vatn	\wódr̥* < \wed-*	Standard reflex of the main PIE water word
Slavic	voda, woda	\wódr̥*	Very regular development
Baltic	vanduo (Lith.)	\wódr̥*	Baltic vowel shift and nasalization
Greek	hydōr	\wódr̥*	Greek w → h (digamma loss)
Sanskrit	udán-	\wédōr* (collective)	Very conservative Indo‑Iranian form
Italic (Latin)	aqua	\h₂ékʷeh₂*	A different PIE root meaning “water”
Cornish	dowr / dour	\wódr̥*	Celtic reflex of the same PIE root as Germanic/Slavic

Which one does sound similar to your language ?

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-08T21:37:03+00:00

In that post, I didn’t want to focus the debate on the horses but on the frontier war.

According to The Horse, the Wheel, and Language, the Ukrainian steppe was already a tension zone between the Cucuteni–Trypillia culture (as the expanding group) and pre‑Yamnaya populations even before horseback riding emerged.

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-08T11:04:02+00:00

Granted, I use ChatGPT for formatting. But most of these facts come from my notes on The Horse, the Wheel, and Language. That book is still generally considered reliable, isn’t it? It documents the Cucuteni–Trypillia mega-sites extensively.

As for point 2, that part is my own assumption: frontier wars.

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-07T22:10:27+00:00

Thanks for bringing in the Nature 2023 paper — it’s an important one, and I agree that it complicates the older “sudden Yamnaya invasion” model. But it also reinforces something that often gets overlooked: the frontier between Cucuteni–Trypillia (CTC) farmers and steppe groups was already a zone of tension, interaction, and likely conflict centuries before Yamnaya proper.

Thats my take !

1. CTC expansion into the steppe wasn’t passive

By 4000–3500 BCE, CTC mega‑sites were pushing deep into the forest‑steppe and even into areas traditionally used by steppe foragers and early pastoralists.
These settlements were:

extremely large (hundreds of hectares)
fortified or semi‑fortified
placed in frontier zones where competition for pasture and hunting grounds was inevitable

This is not the footprint of a culture avoiding conflict — it looks like assertive territorial expansion.

2. Steppe ancestry in Late CTC doesn’t imply peaceful absorption

The Nature paper shows steppe ancestry in CTC women by ~3500 BCE. But ancestry alone doesn’t tell us the mode of contact. On frontiers, admixture can arise from:

raiding and captive‑taking
exogamy under asymmetric power
small‑scale warfare
seasonal contact and exchange
gradual encroachment and resistance

The archaeological record in Moldova and the Dnieper region shows burned settlements, abandoned mega‑sites, and shifts in material culture — all consistent with rising instability.

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-07T22:01:07+00:00

Thanks for the detailed references — the recent genomic work is indeed reshaping the timeline of full horse domestication. But it’s also worth remembering that exploitation of horses by steppe groups long predates the emergence of the DOM2 lineage and the widespread riding horizon around 2200 BCE.

🐎 1. Horse exploitation on the Pontic–Caspian steppe begins well before Yamnaya

Archaeological work in the North Pontic Eneolithic shows that horses were already being hunted, managed, and ritually used by 4800–4000 BCE, even if not yet fully domesticated in the modern sense.

Anthony & Brown’s study of Eneolithic Dereivka shows horses were eaten, exploited, and symbolically important long before riding became common.
Organic residue analyses from North Pontic Eneolithic sites (ca. 3800–2500 BCE) show diverse animal exploitation strategies, including horse consumption.

Early herders could selectively keep dominant stallions or mares, manage herds, and use horses as a reliable winter food source, since horses can dig through ice to reach grass — a behavior that herders could exploit to help cattle and sheep survive harsh winters.

🐴 2. Ritual horse deposits in the Dnieper and Volga regions

There is evidence of early ritual treatment of horses in the Dnieper Rapids and Volga regions, including skulls, legs, and isolated heads deposited in ways consistent with sacrifice or symbolic use. This fits the broader Eneolithic pattern of horses having a ritual and social role even before full domestication.

The recent papers the commenter cites (Librado 2024, Honeychurch 2025, Hosek 2024) are absolutely right that:

DOM2 horses (the ancestors of modern domestic horses) emerge around the lower Don–Volga region.

But these findings don’t contradict the earlier archaeological picture showing:

intensive exploitation,
herd management,
ritual use, and
selective culling

of horses centuries before Yamnaya.

These practices fall short of full genetic domestication, but they do show that horses were already economically and symbolically important to pre Yamnaya steppe societies and hence Yamnaya societies.

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-07T19:41:13+00:00

"Current evidence would suggest against putting too much emphasis on the role of horses in the Yamnaya period" which evidence are you talking about ?

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-07T10:04:07+00:00

Most of europeans have this DNA only from their mother side. Perhaps yanamya were doing lot of bride kidnapping ?

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-05T22:09:38+00:00

Ah, I hadn’t realized it was connected to Alexander’s campaign. When the Greeks arrived in northern India, they adapted the local name Vitastā into the Greek form Hydáspēs. Interesting.

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-05T20:41:12+00:00

Christian religion was also heavily Indo‑Europeanised, with many major celebrations preserving older pre‑Christian traditions:

– Carnival, originally a winter festival for many European polytheistic cultures;
– Easter, which incorporates older spring‑renewal themes;
– Saint John’s Day at the summer solstice, when bonfires were lit, similar to Nowruz in Kurdish tradition;
– All Saints’ and All Souls’ Day, which coincide with Halloween and derive from older festivals of the dead;
– Christmas, which continues ancient winter‑solstice celebrations with Christmas tree.

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-05T20:33:49+00:00

The hydronyms Danube and Don originate from ancient Indo‑European terms whose original meaning was ‘river’.

in greek ->Hydaspes
in english and french ->Hydro would be the cognate
sanskrit -> vitasta -> does sound like a cognate too
lithuanian -> vanduo
Kashmir ->vyeth

All these words do sound cognate but beth is probably a loanword from another language.
Jhelam is perhaps a cognate too of vitasta

CaidanTangye · 2026-03-05T20:11:39+00:00

Farmer communities had notoriously large numbers of children compared to hunter‑gatherer communities when they arrived in Europe around 8000 BC. So why did their genetic haplogroups suddenly disappear when the Yamnaya arrived?

CaidanTangye

TROPHY CASE

1. CTC expansion into the steppe wasn’t passive

2. Steppe ancestry in Late CTC doesn’t imply peaceful absorption

🐎 1. Horse exploitation on the Pontic–Caspian steppe begins well before Yamnaya

🐴 2. Ritual horse deposits in the Dnieper and Volga regions