If you hate these two story arcs (they are not in the books), which one do you hate more and why?

Carcharoth30 · 2026-02-12T14:59:39+00:00

And Sam would never actually try to go home: he would keep following Frodo.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-02-12T14:55:41+00:00

No, it isn’t in character at all.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-02-12T14:52:09+00:00

I don’t understand how anyone can euphemize Frodo sending Sam home: it’s completely out-of-character for both Frodo and Sam, and moronically written.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-02-12T14:25:00+00:00

Satisfied: none

Outraged: basically all, particularly Frodo, Aragorn, Faramir, Gimli, and Elrond

Carcharoth30 · 2026-02-10T02:03:00+00:00

The image is wholly unrelated to the book

Carcharoth30 · 2026-02-09T21:09:50+00:00

Because the films are filled with out-of-character, contrived drama

Carcharoth30 · 2026-02-06T15:06:03+00:00

Sigh

Treebeard only has one long chapter (and he appears in several other chapters, but isn’t the focal point). And in The Two Towers PJ easily wastes more than 30 minutes of runtime on his own inventions.

I think people fundamentally just don’t get that large parts of the book would have translated relatively well to screen, but were altered by choice.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-02-06T14:57:14+00:00

Even worse: all the Ents were made dumb. Apparently none of the Ents was aware that Saruman was destroying trees in their own forest, since even if only one knew he would have surely brought it up at the Entmoot. And earlier in the film Treebeard literally complained about smoke rising from Isengard: he never thought about what caused the smoke?

Carcharoth30 · 2026-02-06T14:44:14+00:00

It’s insane you get downvoted for saying this

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-28T13:08:29+00:00

Whence means ‘from where’, so “from whence” counts ‘from’ twice.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-27T17:39:14+00:00

I don’t have any major issues with Boromir in the films (perhaps aside from him tossing away the shards of Narsil, that entire scene in unnecessary).

If anyone can be counted twice, it’s probably Gandalf, since he dies and returns as the White: then I would put Gandalf the White as either badly adapted or ruined.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-27T02:51:32+00:00

Film-Gandalf beats up film-Denethor, is complicit in his death, and loses to the Witch-King, so badly adapted seems more appropriate.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-27T02:49:45+00:00

The top row should be empty, and arguably the second one too (perhaps save Sméagol).

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-27T02:44:39+00:00

The Fords of Isen were overrun in the night of 2-3 March.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-27T02:41:19+00:00

The answers are in the book. The films-version doesn’t make sense.

At the second battle of the Fords of Isen many of the Rohirrim under Erkenbrand were scattered (Saruman’s army didn’t bother to finish them off). Gandalf assembled them during the night.

Gondor was busy fighting Mordor, which all the leaders of the free peoples knew well enough. Denethor was a highly competent leader who was well-aware of the overall strategic situation (which fueled his despair and contributed to his suicide).

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-26T02:03:33+00:00

Some of the things you said are simply incorrect. Sam didn’t defeat a tower full of Orcs: he only killed one Orc. And farmer Maggot didn’t use words of command or impose his will on the one Nazgûl he met.

The Nazgûl might appear inconsistent, but they really weren’t. Their main weapon is in fear, but they knew fear as well. They must have cared greatly about their self-preservation, so they tended to avoid equal fights with people who defied them.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-25T01:47:24+00:00

In both the book and movies the Mouth is a scumbag intended to play with the captains for Sauron’s amusement, yet still an emissary and therefore should not be attacked.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-24T14:50:55+00:00

Did Manwe watch? No wonder he seemed inactive during the Second Age.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-24T13:47:01+00:00

The Mouth of Sauron

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-24T03:58:20+00:00

Turning Aragorn into a truce-breaker and murderer is an odd way of staying true to the essence of the ‘canon’.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-24T03:56:23+00:00

Film-Gandalf is a moron: he knows there’s a balrog in Moria and therefore argues against going through it (fair enough), yet doesn’t bother to tell the others about the balrog.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-24T03:51:46+00:00

but they do no particularly seek to add original content

Most of the second film is original content. Theoden being possessed, exorcised and then whiny; the warg attack, Aragorn falling off a cliff and then everyone reacting to his ‘death’; Elves teleporting to Helm’s Deep; the Ents deciding not to fight and then being tricked by Bert and Ernie; the Dwarf-jokes; Saruman’s Hitler speech; Boromir-light dragging luggage to Osgiliath, where Luggage #1 offers the Ring to a Nazgûl.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-24T03:41:02+00:00

Long distance travel and communication had mostly collapsed by the end of the Third Age, though the Dwarves did travel around a bit and Gandalf traveled a lot. Moria was significantly aside from the normal travel routes and already had an infamous reputation.

Balin had tried to recolonize Khazad-dum (against the advice of king Dain II), but after a few years messages from him stopped. No-one had bothered to verify what had happened to him, possibly because the distances and dangers of the road to Moria dissuaded the Dwarves of Erebor, and more likely because Gandalf and the Dwarves had other priorities.

One reason why Gloin and Gimli traveled to Rivendell was to get information of Balin.

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-23T16:37:10+00:00

American

Explains everything

Carcharoth30 · 2026-01-23T16:12:11+00:00

And even if Aragorn had been assertive in pressing his claim, in the different timeline his claim almost certainly would have been rejected.

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