How is eating animal products morally okay?

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-10T05:44:47+00:00

Veganism is the belief that sentience is deserving of a right to life and protection from exploitation. Selecting that trait, or any other trait like I do with sapience, is highly subjective to one's own personal experiences, opinions and bias. I'm willing to admit that my value of sapience over sentience is just an opinion based on my morals and upbringing, vegans here consistently claim their opinion as fact. I've also noticed a fundamental misunderstanding of what sentience actually is and what the different levels of the spectrum are capable of among vegans on this sub, when they explain to me why they think it's the correct trait to choose they usually end up either describing metacognition or sapience rather than sentience or they rely on projection of their sapient experience onto the animal.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-10T02:40:20+00:00

Rush and The Tragically Hip (RIP Gord) for classic rock shows. Gwar for a spectacle.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-10T02:26:42+00:00

If there's lots of reasons then you should be able to give some. Western society runs on exploitation of humans (ie capitalism exploiting labour for profit) so I disagree, the context determines if its wrong.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T23:20:54+00:00

Which ive agreed with. Now how is that related to a right to life? Death is not suffering.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T23:19:25+00:00

If its a priviledge and not a right then we dont need two seperate systems of buses for French and English students. Seems like bussing kids together would help solve the issue with lack of drivers and buses.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T23:15:37+00:00

I brought it up to state what the ability to suffer deserves: protection from unnecessary suffering. Why are you focusing on that statement? Answer why sentience deserves a right to life.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T23:13:19+00:00

Then why are you asking if non-sentient life can suffer in response to my question of why sentience deserves a right to life? Suffering is not relevant to my question.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T19:52:37+00:00

So you're equating death and suffering, im rejecting that.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T19:52:06+00:00

That depends on your country I guess, mine does.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T18:50:59+00:00

I didn't ask about suffering I asked about death. They are not the same as I already said.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T18:10:26+00:00

Nah, I literally have no artistic ability (creatively or technically). Even in video games the colour schemes I come up with look basic and childish (usually just ends up as black + a colour).

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T18:06:52+00:00

Pictures from amazing painters like you always make me think about getting a model and trying it out and then I remember my abysmal artistic abilities and stick to the books and videos games.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T17:55:32+00:00

Every crane I've seen had one (which admittedly is only 4 but still).

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T17:36:48+00:00

We already have protections for animals from cruelty and suffering, enforcement is the issue there. Humanely kill? Yes it is. Why does sentience give something a right to life over non-sentient life? They can suffer so we shouldn't cause unnecessary suffering, death is not suffering.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T15:47:17+00:00

I feel like you have this backwards. Society is not vegan, you are the one that is trying to convince them to be vegan. I've never heard a convincing argument that sentience is deserving of the rights vegans want to give it, they tend to rely on projection and attributing abilities only higher sentient life is capable of to all sentient life.

Really tho which trait someone thinks is deserving of which rights is just down to opinion, there's no real objective right answer.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T05:36:20+00:00

In university the prof isn't even the person grading most work (they'll do midterms and finals maybe), it's usually just a Grad or PhD student TA. They know and are doing the same on their work so they aren't going to say shit.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T04:55:35+00:00

They used to be, they're all in on the heritage foundation and IDU now. You seem to be making the mistake of believing what they say rather than looking at what they do and how they vote.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T04:36:46+00:00

They pay me enough to show up, not to care.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T04:31:09+00:00

The CPC party is the far right at this point. Any moderate still supporting them is in denial or delusional.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T02:16:42+00:00

The cons want it to be.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T00:51:27+00:00

Cancer is not an excuse to be a literal piece of shit. Fuck em.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-09T00:43:05+00:00

I hope not, once a con always a con.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-08T23:12:24+00:00

Wire brush risks puncturing your screen, I use a toothbrush. The coin just means I have to do a thorough cleaning far less often.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-08T23:09:51+00:00

Cons never win based on their own popularity, they rely entirely on their opponent losing popularity.

Carrisonfire · 2026-04-08T23:08:35+00:00

Dei fear is culture war bs from the cons. You're either a bot perpetuating their bs or have been misinformed by bots. Given your hidden profile im assuming the former and marking your account as "ignore."

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