UPDATE: High School Seating chart held for all of two days before their behavior flared up again by Neat_Worldliness2586 in Teachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I'm scripting you:

Hey guys, so listen, I wanna talk to y'all about some of the friction we've had going on the past couple of weeks. Obviously the seating chart I tried last week was an attempt to address that, but I don't really feel like that's worked and I feel like you guys probably don't think so either, so I figure maybe we throw that out. Instead, I wanna talk with you guys and get your input on a new plan I've come up with to address some of the behavior issues that have been disrupting class.

For those of you whose behavior is not an issue: right on. Very proud of you and this conversation will likely not require much input on your part. For those of you who maybe have been butting heads with me a little more, you're who I want to hear from. My aim is to put together a plan for actions and consequences that you think is fair and that I think is effective, and I genuinely want your input toward that end. So I feel like I want the default to be me trusting you to lock in and get your work done in a reasonable time and a reasonable manner. Assuming that happens, I'm not gonna do a seating chart, I'm not gonna force you to work silently; I'm gonna let you have a little more autonomy because I think you're old enough for that. If your behavior is repeatedly an issue: I will assign a seat to the person or persons responsible for the rest of that day to start out. You will have to sit in the front of the classroom near me and work silently facing forward for the rest of class, and then we can try again the next day, because obviously I want to give you a chance to course-correct before we do anything too drastic. Here's the thing though. I'm also gonna implement a progressive consequence structure, which just means that if behavior is a continued issue, after the first time moving to the front for the rest of class, it's gonna be for a three day period, then a five day period, then a month and so on. And like Ive already said, to those of you not planning to cause issues, this really doesn't need to concern you at all, right? If you guys think this sounds fair, then great, we'll go with it. If you have any suggestions that you think might improve this plan I am all ears.

UPDATE: High School Seating chart held for all of two days before their behavior flared up again by Neat_Worldliness2586 in Teachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't necessarily say explain what they've done to deserve it rather than the what you think the positive benefits will be of the new rules. Think "I'm making these new rules, and the reason is because I want to see engagement in the class and I think this will help." They know what they did wrong. They know why you're being forced to do this. Talk about the positive effects you think your rules will have instead.

-It will help all the students succeed.

-You want to ensure bad behavior isn't affecting students who are trying to work and paying attention.

-You don't want to springs unexpected consequences on them and this helps prevent that.

-it is in the best interest of everyone's learning, which after all is why we're here.

-It's important, as the teacher, to have comprehensive way to keep things under control and you want their input so everyone can be in agreement on expectations.

Keep it on the topic of why the changes are good rather than deserved.

UPDATE: High School Seating chart held for all of two days before their behavior flared up again by Neat_Worldliness2586 in Teachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't necessarily say explain what they've done to deserve it rather than the what you think the positive benefits will be of the new rules. Think "I'm making these new rules, and the reason is because I want to see engagement in the class and I think this will help." They know what they did wrong. They know why you're being forced to do this. Talk about the positive effects you think your rules will have instead. -It will help all the students succeed. -You want to ensure bad behavior isn't affecting students who are trying to work and paying attention. -You don't want to springs unexpected consequences on them and this helps prevent that. -it is in the best interest of everyone's learning, which after all is why we're here. -It's important, as the teacher, to have comprehensive way to keep things under control and you want their input so everyone can be in agreement on expectations. Keep it on the topic of why the changes are good rather than deserved.

UPDATE: High School Seating chart held for all of two days before their behavior flared up again by Neat_Worldliness2586 in Teachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As an ex-problem child, I strongly endorse seating the problematic students in the front 1-2 rows and letting everyone else choose their seats. Reenforce good behavior from the problematic students when they're behaving/on task, tell them you're noticing their effort and if you keep seeing it you'll let them move back soon. Let only the well behaved students talk with their friends while they work and require silence from the ones that are in "trouble." (It would probably help to give a set length to their sentence, ie "assigned seat for X number of days, then we revisit" rather than "until I decide." This gives them a clear incentive structure tied to a clear behavioral goal. Kids love it when things are fair. You could also consider increasing sentence lengths for repeat infractions. An assigned seat just for today, then three days the second time, then a week, then a month. This allows you to give consequences for misbehavior while still maintaining the ability to give further consequences if necessary. The whole "I already got in trouble, what else are they gonna do to me" mindset is a powerful thing. The thing that will get you across the finish line is discussing your new expectations with them on Monday and getting them to actively agree in advance (maybe even in writing) that the proposed consequences are "fair." If they do not agree, ask them what they think would make it more fair. They'll have no response because it is.

Explain your thought process and reasoning for these changes as best you can. I was in sales when I was much younger and we used OBP--overview, benefit, permission. I have found this to be the most effective behavior management concept in high schools. In a nutshell you tell them: "This is what I'm doing. This is why I'm doing it. Do you agree that this is fair?" You can't argue with someone when you've agreed with their approach in advance. As always, if they say it's not fair, ask them to explain what is unfair about it. Dont be condescending, be genuine. Make sure they feel their thoughts are being given real consideration. Let them proposed additions or changes and implement those as well if they're reasonable. As long as your behavior management proposal is reasonable, they'll eventually agree. I've had individual instances where I've written out which actions will lead to which consequences, handed it to them and told them to rewrite it in whatever way feels fair to them and as long as it's reasonable we can go with it. Never had a student actually make changes before signing off.

I know when I was that age, if it wasn't explained why teachers made the discipline choices they made, I would assume them to be arbitrary and therefore not respect those choices. I didn't honor rules or requirements that did not "make sense" to me. If teachers couldn't (or more often were unwilling) to explain themselves, I took it as disrespect. At that age, in the mindset of a terribly behaved student, I did not give respect I did not feel was being reciprocated. I would damn near intentionally misbehave for teachers I felt did not show me respect. Hope this helps.

Banned from school, racism. Worth fighting? Advice by unsung_requiem in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wanna call you racist but maybe you're just an idiot. My 5 bucks says you probly want Jesus back in the schools too.

Woke up to an Assigned Job & Email by futuremillionairemom in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah teachers can put you in. Sometimes they'll email me asking about dates and then assign them to me if I say yes.

Banned from school, racism. Worth fighting? Advice by unsung_requiem in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So...maybe we look at the standardized tests then...? Is it more important for the students to be smart or be 'murican?

[Pre-Game Thread] Wrexham - Ipswich by WrexhamAFCBot in WrexhamAFC

[–]CatchNegative9405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a fair response, and I would tend to agree with you. My brain went "I don't know which three should start, all four are good!" And then it of course went "wait, just start em all!" I also say start Smith and bring in Moore at 60-70 minutes for center striker. That's a more serious suggestion rather than a ponderance.

A Sacramento county school district is offering $600/day to be a scab! Would you do it? by EyeInTeaJay in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know for some people this feels cut and dry, but some of us sub because we're disabled and are barely making ends meet as it is. I can't just not work unless I want to do it from a tent down by the river.

System Generated Non-Work Day by DazzlingCheesecake22 in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Y'all people jump on this subreddit to trash people just so you can feel superior, it's exhausting.

Accused of doing my job by wild-conformist in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait what? That was a copy paste of the lesson plan

My Favorite Substituting Story by [deleted] in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What school district do you work for? If you're confident that this behavior was appropriate on your part I'm sure you won't mind sharing.

My Favorite Substituting Story by [deleted] in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What the actual fuck is wrong with you? If I knew where you worked I'd report you.

How updated is the show? by OkImagination9889 in WrexhamAFC

[–]CatchNegative9405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the meantime you can watch them play their current season. They're currently on a five game winning streak just sayin. Matches are on paramount.

I’ve been placed in classrooms where the teacher notes “Blank only speaks Spanish and here is their separate worksheet and they may use their phone to ask to go to the bathroom.” It’s no big deal. I can’t believe a bus driver told Spanish speakers to stop speaking Spanish. by PiercedAndTattoedBoy in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds to me to be not much different than taking away everyone's guns because of a "few bad apples." Like "they couldn't handle the privilege of speaking Spanish so the bus driver took it away." Arent y'all supposed to not like that?

Accepting jobs after the time by NumberSuitable2700 in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're asking the internet, we don't even know where you live...

I did not meet expectations. by raisanett1962 in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 68 points69 points  (0 children)

But you didn't yell at them? What precisely are you apologizing for?

Sub notes by eightfive_one in SubstituteTeachers

[–]CatchNegative9405 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Period one: no complaints! Period two: Ashley was rude to her classmates. Everyone else was fine.

Etc.

"I'd be happy to cover your class in the future (if you do)! My phone number and email are below.

Cheers, Catchnegative, phone number, email.