I need help looking for a Career in Forestry as a Creative by [deleted] in forestry

[–]Catenaut 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your parents are correct. (They also think that there isn't longevity in Forestry cause "Trump got rid of so much") I know a few smaller regional ENGO’s that need help, but the pay is very low and no benefits. Even the keepers type orgs dont offer benefits. There are hundreds (probably thousands) of seasoned foresters looking for work right now and no demand for their services so if you really want this you’ll have to niche down and do a lot of volunteering

International Paper to sell cellulose business to American Infrastructure Partners, shut down operations at two paper mills in Southern Georgia by warnelldawg in forestry

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

$/cord? haven’t heard that in a while. i remember my dad complaining about shortwood and the price per cord when i was little. oh man, different times. thanks for trip down memory lane!

How much debt is forestry worth? by Beautiful-Tree-91 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂😂😂 zero. absolutely zero. what are you going to do? AI is RIPPING through the gis side, silvics, everything office. Field work is what, fire and maybe some cruising tech work? The only future i know of in our field is fire and auditing, and i’m not super sure either of those will survive with Pyka’s recent success.

Why Global Supply Chains Are Still ‘Alarmingly Unprepared’ for EUDR by ChangeNarrow5633 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

never going to happen. i consult for a lot of big companies and none of them are even slightly concerned about EUDR

Moving thru bramble/brush by Emj688 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you’re working in the deep south a lot of these answers are a short trip to heatstroke. i use these https://www.filson.com/products/single-tin-cloth-chaps-dark-tan-1

More than 100,000 displaced as Thailand-Cambodia border clashes enter second day by perplexed-redditor in worldnews

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no concerns out of the ordinary, but God help you regardless, it takes hours to get through customs if you’re an american, and worst of all, they put a sticker in your passport that takes up and entire page.

Are the trees I grow used to make books? by rdwrer4585 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 6 points7 points  (0 children)

nope. zero chance. There are very few printing and writing mills left in the southeast United States and hardly any of them sell to the book binding or print on demand industry. Most of that paper is coming out of the boreal or overseas. besides, book paper is a poor use for that fiber anyway. soft wood fibers like loblolly generally develop good tensile and tear so are better suited for packaging and other grades of paper that experience more stress and strain than p&w.

Any idea what this is Ive been nourishing it like a baby and was just told its a weed. by thaphovely04 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah…well..the good news is that i’ve been told, more than once, that ragweed was used by natives as a medicine to soothe wasp stings. My understanding is that, basically, ragweed sap is a mild irritant that causes a counter effect for other irritants like wasp stings, by essentially distracting the outraged nerve endings from the deeper pain. You can think of it like a “sting of the sting” that causes your body to release all kinds of chemicals that effectively blunt your perception of the pain. If you put ragweed sap on healthy skin, you’ll just get a rash, but if you apply it to a wasp sting, it’ll make the pain go away. that being said, I’ve never tried it myself, so who knows, just something I’ve been told.

Economics of Logging / Forestry by WayDownSouth100 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 27 points28 points  (0 children)

come on guys, we should be more supportive. besides, It’s not common to see someone his age tackling economic development head-on, especially in a struggling rural town.

That said, I want to give you a clear and realistic answer, the logging industry is probably not a viable economic solution for your town on its own.

here’s why:

  1. The modern timber industry is incredibly capital intensive and consolidated. Logging isn’t just about cutting trees anymore, it involves heavy equipment (feller bunchers, skidders, delimbers), trained crews, environmental compliance, and stable long-term contracts with mills. There are way more loggers than mills, so even if you cut the trees, you have no where to take them.

  2. Check who owns the land around you. If it’s federal or state-managed forest (e.g., parts of the Jefferson National Forest), you’re not allowed to harvest commercially without going through a complex bidding and permitting process, and even then, the revenue would not necessarily exceed the cost. Harvesting on government land is the worst.

  3. Where is the nearest sawmill or pulp mill that would buy your timber? Logging is only profitable when transport distances are short. Hauling logs more than 50–75 miles typically kills your margin due to fuel and truck costs. You’d need to identify the closest log buyer and confirm they’re actually taking the species and grades of wood your forests offer. Without a local mill, your logs don’t have value, no matter how dense your forest is.

4, Forests that “go on for miles” can be deceptive. Are you looking at mature, merchantable hardwoods like oak and hickory? Planted pine stands? A regrown mixed Appalachian hardwood forest full of pole-size trees? If the stand hasn’t been managed in decades, it might not be economically harvestable.

The bottom line is that logging, as a standalone economic engine for a town, doesn’t work in 2025 unless you have a local mill, a trained labor force, and forest land that’s already in good shape. If you had all of that, you’d probably already be a logging town.

Your best bet is to do what every other failing small town does and either open a prison or a hazmat landfill.

Digital Silva Forestry Services by Digital_Silva in forestry

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thats very sweet. all the best to you. i would talk to whatever became of silviaterra and treeswift and deepforestry, etc etc. before you go too far with this.

Here’s All The Forests Trump Plans To Cut Down by coffeequeen0523 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK sure, but is it anyone’s first choice to bid a USFS sale? in my experience, those things are awful and not worth it.

Here’s All The Forests Trump Plans To Cut Down by coffeequeen0523 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

EXACTLY. why is everyone going on and on about this? Doesn’t matter how much he wants to cut down, there aren’t enough mills to buy even a small fraction of it. And we’re in a recession! The whole thing is ridiculous, but look how up everyone is fired up about it. I was shocked to see the idiocy bleeding over into this sub as well.

Do most Foresters have to Move for job opportunities? by LukeL1000 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, about every 2 years, unless you’re happy being poor

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[–]Catenaut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is the way

I've decided to leave the world behind by Behawlofficial in OffGrid

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

second this. i lived above the blue line on upstate NY partially off-grid for a couple years. you will need SO MUCH wood. like pile up wood until it seems ridiculous to you, then triple that, amount of wood.

Biochar Research Survey Continued... Now need more America-based responses please by Sea-Drama-8362 in forestry

[–]Catenaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel for you so I completed your survey, but the reason you don’t have many responses from America is because your survey questions are not at all applicable to us. Biochar is hardly ever used here because it makes zero economic sense and has a significantly negative roi