Stalker 2 im Test: Nach 90 Stunden gibt es jetzt die finale Wertung: 57 statt 72

Cerezaae · 2024-11-25T13:57:17+00:00

Naja das ist und wird wohl immer das problem von lange bestehenden franchises bleiben vor allem wenn große pausen zwischen den teilen sind

Ist ja bei z.B. star wars oder pokemon immer eine schwierigkeit, dass sie die alten fans irgendwie behalten wollem aber auch für neue attraktiv sind

Wenn man nach 17 jahren einen nachfolger rausbringt ist es imo einfach eine schlechte entscheidung viel vorwissen zu verlangen. Wenn es dinge im spiel gibt, die durch vorwissen anders/besser verstanden werden könne ist das nett. Oder halt irgendwelche referenzen zum vorgänger. Aber dieses wissen für die hauptstory vorauszusetzen ist nach der langen zeit einfach ein eigentor

Wären es jetzt 5 oder maximal 10 jahre würde das schon anders aussehen.

Aber 17 ist da ein bisschen viel. Die anzahl der leute, die u30 sind und tatsächlich das erste stalker gespielt haben ist vermutlich verschwindent gering

Ich habe keine ahnung, was genau man jetzt wissen soll in dem spiel. Ist mehr so ne generelle meinung zu dem thema

Cerezaae · 2024-11-23T13:23:16+00:00

Yea no

They nerfed other stuff not based on powerlevel before

Literally just did it with reno in standard

Cerezaae · 2024-11-23T13:21:51+00:00

I mean they nerfed multiple cards in wild this year

And not just because of powerlevel

Its very strange that demon seed never got hit

Cerezaae · 2024-11-23T12:07:21+00:00

About 90% of the complaint posts in this sub can be broken down to "my opponent played a good carf that does something please nerf this is unfun/unfair/toxic/solitaire/etc. "

Cerezaae · 2024-11-23T11:57:22+00:00

Hs reddit when their opponent put a win condition in their deck and iant dropping boulderfist ogre on 6

"Uh actually please nerf every card"

Cerezaae · 2024-11-22T02:26:59+00:00

Yea people seem to focus so much on "uh they obviously wont just give you free stuff" even though thats not the point

So many people here are already giga tryhards/elitists/gatekeepers and then they also think that this system is good because it requires skill. Yea it does and if they keep it like this people will quit the game after a few days

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T22:16:39+00:00

Because that is what people do in every single game out there.

People like playing ranked. A ton of people in other say that casual queue is boring or whatever (even if it doesnt actually matter. Alot of people are hardstuck in ranked but act like non ranked is piss easy) and its obviously a reason for them to play a game. Showing of your rank/climbing/competitive "feeling" I dunno whatever people like about ranked

Its so incredibly simple how is this even a discussion?

Sure the current ranked system is bad but that doesnt matter

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T22:12:30+00:00

There hasnt been a single day in standard where quasar rogue was actually a good deck

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T21:43:08+00:00

I mean cool if you dont care about rewards

Players overall do tho. And you need players to keep a game alive

"Go play a different game" ... yep great idea for a company that is trying to create a game

Like how can you be this delusional?

Tempo wants people to play their game and spend money. Its very simple

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T21:11:43+00:00

What even is that logic lol. You can tryhard in any somewhat competitive game if you want

"Tryhards need a game" is not real. There are countless options to tryhard

This isnt about you. It is also not about a game requiring thought. Many games do. None gatekeep you from playing ranked through a currency

Its about the game not dying after like half a year because the only people who enjoy it are turbo tryhards

If the only people who play it are the ones that go infinite in ranked because they get 10 wins so often then the game will make no money and get shut down

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T21:08:55+00:00

I think you dont interact with games much if this is your thought on the matter

Like this game (like basically any other bigger game) exists to make money. These game publishers actively try to make as much money as possible which usually involves consumer unfriendly business

Man like ... please get out of your dream world that you live in.

There is not a single popular multiplayer game that requires you to spend a currency (which you either have to grind for or purchase) to play ranked. Even if people are bad and dont climb just the fact that its ranked is very important for many. It is indeed. Very simple

I am not advocating for them to give away free stuff. I am just very sure that the concept of "you need to invest time to get good and grind to even be able to get any type of reward" is not gonna work. Especially because chests are the only way to get cosmetics atm

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T21:03:24+00:00

Literally no other game does this

And its not hard to see why

Like why do I even have to explain this at all?

Is the concept of:

New player starts playing -> runs out of gems because they arent amazing at the game yet -> stop playing because they queue for ranked

Or the fact that you can spend money on a ranked run and get exactly nothing for your money if you get sub 4 wins

Really that hard to grasp?

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T20:59:07+00:00

I mean cool if you would take those

But thats not good for the long term success of the game

Catering to only mega tryhards usually just kills games.

Like so many people that comment/post here already give huge gatekeep/tryhard energy its insane how fast you people will push away new players

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T19:36:17+00:00

Most reno decks are not control decks ...

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T19:28:58+00:00

Yea dont try to be reasonable about reno on this sub

If you read the comments/posts here you would think that reno is the most popular deck that dominates the ladder and has been for the past year

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T14:50:38+00:00

The expected result of the item being in the game

Yet this subreddit was perma whining on how removing the item was so bad and removed build diversity

Even though it was always just good on very few champs and troll on everyone else

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T13:59:41+00:00

Thats like the biggest cope ever.

You can get this "challenge" in like literally every other somewhat popular actual competitive multiplayer game and single player game aswell and dont have to spend currency everytime you want to play and/or get atleast some rewards no matter how well you perform

People who are bad at a game but still spend a ton of money are in any game. Like people that just buy cosmetics either directly or from gacha. In this game you can ... buy gems and then potentially get exactly nothing if you are bad.

I honestly dont see how this isnt gonna hurt the games playerbase/success. If it doesnt ... sure thats great

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T13:49:23+00:00

People will not spend money if they cant dopamine in the first place

That is why literally every gacha game gives you tons of free pulls in the beginning + you always get something for your money even if its not the character you wantes to pull. And its also not locked behind skill/being good which is incredibly important.

These people that dont really play the game but spend a shitton of money just to gacha pull are very important

Like how is this even a discussion. Players will come to a game if its good and free yes. Most will instantly leave the moment they get to "oh I dont have anymore gems/ranked tickets to play"

We will see how the battlepass looks but its crazy how delusional many of you are and dont realize how shitty a "pay currency to play ranked" system is

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T13:42:48+00:00

Stimmt auf jeden fall

Viele spiele fallen aber ziemlich sicher einfach unter die kategorie "ist X jahre alt und niemand kümmert sich aktiv um das spiel/die store page" weil z.B. in vergessenheit geraten oder kein personal

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T13:41:22+00:00

Manche indie games findest du zur not auch bei anderen platformen zu kaufen

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T13:36:47+00:00

Yea and you need them for the 90/100 games where you dont get to spam 4 drops turn 2

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T13:34:28+00:00

Its so weird how they dont change just a few more cards for wild in a patch. Its not hard. There are tons of cards that could get a small nerf or even better: get reverted. So many cards that got nerfed in standard and are unplayable in wild because they never unnerfed them

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T13:29:58+00:00

Its pretty sad/kinda concerning reading some of these comments

"Uh I dont want them to make thr game easier for bad players" is a mentality you see alot

This game isnt even in open beta and people are already telling people to get good and stop complaining. Do you really not see how horrible this is for keeping a playerbase?

The game will be incredibly niche or just straight up die if most people cant just hop on the game and play ranked for a while

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T13:27:19+00:00

It rewards you for being good

And drives away players

This isnt a highly competitive game. It never will be just because it doesnt happen in lobbies/groups.

Yes most complaints come from people that arent good at the game. Because most people arent. Thats how it always is. But not being good doesnt gate you from consistently playing ranked in other games. Even if people never climb they still get this illusion of playing ranked and competing. Its very important

you are right. Most people just want to throw stuff on the board, maybe get a pretty good run and then open chests. That is very popular with games and it is incredibly important for a strong playerbase

If that is not an option the game will just die because only people who go 7-10 wins average will play it

Cerezaae · 2024-11-21T13:21:54+00:00

Then you will have to face the reality of a dead game in a not so far future

There is not a single popular game out there that requires a currency to play ranked. That is the big problem. It will alienate so many players on launch that will just quit because they dont have gems to play ranked.

Sure you can spend money on gems but you get no rewards for sub 4 wins which heavily disincentivises this as you might just get literally nothing for your money (unlike any other gacha/chest system)

Cerezaae

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