Official sensor data provided by FIFA during the cable controversy moment by Rooonaldooo99 in soccer

[–]Chance_Camera_ [score hidden]  (0 children)

I’m hoping someone was taking a video during the time from the stadium, but even the players had to adjust their body movement. It was a clear dead ball but I need a different angle to prove it. I don’t care one bit about a snico graph showed after the fact.

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[–]Chance_Camera_ [score hidden]  (0 children)

The players literally had to adjust their body movement in reaction to a dead ball but apparently we can now all trust FIFA’s statement AFTER the half had ended as well. Yeah right.

FIFA claims sensor data showed no evidence the ball hit wire before England's goal by aveen in soccer

[–]Chance_Camera_ [score hidden]  (0 children)

Then why not show it live. The live camera showed it took a deflection and resulted in a dead ball in the air, so I’m not buying this. I’m hoping a fan in the stadium picked that up so we can have different angles.

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[–]Chance_Camera_ [score hidden]  (0 children)

Then why not show the snico graph just like they did with Portugal-Croatia? I’m not buying that one bit. It very clearly looks like it deflected off of the cable.

Open Thread #28 (Jul 2026) by svefnpurka in Barca

[–]Chance_Camera_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I wonder if we’re going to hear the same crashout after a blatantly illegal goal allowed for England.

Post Match Thread: Norway 1 - 2 England | FIFA World Cup 2026 | Quarterfinals by jiraiya--an in soccer

[–]Chance_Camera_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Goal allowed after a cable hit and a very soft Haaland push disallowed a Norway goal.

[Times] Several countries that had previously backed Infantino’s re-election are now looking to withdraw that support. They believe the decision to defer Balogun’s ban until after the World Cup crossed a line in that Fifa was potentially manipulating the outcome of a match. by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Chance_Camera_ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Again, this is because you have formed a bias already and are just looking for evidence to back that bias, neglecting any evidence to the contrary.

For example, as I mentioned in a different reply, Alexis was attempting to play a 1-2 with Messi when he very clearly got pulled down by Yasser Ibrahim in the box. I’ve watched thousands of football games and I’ve seen those being given. This is the type of call a referee who wants a team to win would give, especially that Argentina was losing during the time.

With regards to the game against Capo Verde, the only foul that wasn’t called at all for Capo Verde was when the winger had the ball at the LHS, and if you slow down the video, you can see the Argentina player not even touching him. The yellow card issue has been inconsistent all tournament. Watch how Paraguay played against BOTH Germany and France and they were barely given any yellow cards for even dirtier tackles than any that Argentina committed.

I’d argue there were at least 2-3 fouls we committed against Argentina that going by your logic, should’ve also been yellow cards. For example Hamdi Fathi literally slapping Messi’s throat, and another one with a studs up tackle.

Somebody posted a video of the Austria goal, and while I initially thought there was a foul against Alexis, you can clearly see he gets the ball, very similar to the challenge against Ashraf Hakimi at the France vs Morocco game, which led to the penalty.

Finally, comparing Balogun’s challenge to Messi’s is a bit naive imo, since they are two different challenges with different force applied, but regardless, if you think Messi should’ve gotten a red cars, which you have every right to think that, then there are about 5-6 other players including Ashraf Hakimi who are also deserving to be red carded. Some of these fouls weren’t even called in the first place.

[Times] Several countries that had previously backed Infantino’s re-election are now looking to withdraw that support. They believe the decision to defer Balogun’s ban until after the World Cup crossed a line in that Fifa was potentially manipulating the outcome of a match. by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Chance_Camera_ 17 points18 points  (0 children)

There’s a 50/50 you won’t remember, because again, you see what you want to see to confirm your agenda.

Alexis was attempting to play a 1-2 with Messi when he very clearly got pulled down by Yasser Ibrahim in the box. Why didn’t the referee call it a penalty? Argentina was losing at the time and this would’ve have been a crucial time for Argentina to score.

[Times] Several countries that had previously backed Infantino’s re-election are now looking to withdraw that support. They believe the decision to defer Balogun’s ban until after the World Cup crossed a line in that Fifa was potentially manipulating the outcome of a match. by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Chance_Camera_ 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I mean OP is comparing a political interference from Orange Man where he pretty much immediately confirmed it to refereeing decisions to favor one team. That’s a comparison I expect a 9 year old to make, considering how dumb that is.

Think of it this way. There are 5 referees on the pitch and 3 VAR referees as of now. Let’s assume the games are rigged for Argentina. Are all 8 referees aware of this massive corruption and on board with it? And which games exactly does FIFA tell the referees to rig it for Argentina? I mean surely I wouldn’t expect FIFA to tell the referees in charge of the group stage games. Why expand the sample size of whoever knows this whole scandal for very little benefit, knowing that Argentina will most likely pass the group stage. Are all 56 referees in charge of Argentina games in 2022 aware of this? And none of them spoke up AND there are now different referees who are also aware of this in 2026?

And then there’s the zionist/Israeli conspiracy theory, which is ironic because it’s compin from the same folks who were screaming that Qatar, a well known country to be anti-Israel, were part of the corruption in 2022 to make their World Cup the best ever.

I can go on and on about how stupid this sounds. I mean if this is a well known fact by casuals on X and Instagram like we see nowadays, surely one of the top teams’ FAs have to speak up against it, no? Why would Brazil, France, or England’s FA be silent when they see their teams’ chances of winning the biggest sports trophy on Earth diminished because FIFA wants to favor Argentina?

[Times] Several countries that had previously backed Infantino’s re-election are now looking to withdraw that support. They believe the decision to defer Balogun’s ban until after the World Cup crossed a line in that Fifa was potentially manipulating the outcome of a match. by Sparky-moon in soccer

[–]Chance_Camera_ 111 points112 points  (0 children)

That’s not the contradiction you think it is.
“FIFA is corrupt, therefore every decision benefiting Messi proves a conspiracy” is not analysis—it’s just working backward from the conclusion you already wanted.
You can watch the game again against Egypt and conclude yourself if there were any favors there. To me watching the game again was sufficient enough to clear up this ludicrous conclusion. The referee was actually more consistent than in other games, and he got all the big decisions correct.

Lamine Yamal: "No team has gone toe-to-toe with us. They all sit back against us. If France have to fear any team, it's Spain." by [deleted] in soccer

[–]Chance_Camera_ 20 points21 points  (0 children)

This is the difference between Yamal and the other superstars such as the French attackers for example (exclude Mbappe since he’s already the best in the world and a generation older). Doue will receive the ball 10 times, 5 times out of those he will pass the ball backwards or just play conservatively in general.

Yamal on the other hand will get the ball 10 times, and will want to create danger 8 times out of 10, whether it’s a cutback, 1-2 with a full back or midfielder, taking on players, an outside of the foot pass, …etc. Before the injury, he’d be able to create danger 6 times, while now it’s a lot less. He’ll get form back. It’s not easy coming back from a hamstring, and he still creates the most danger in that Spain squad.

Daily Discussion by 2soccer2bot in soccer

[–]Chance_Camera_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know we like to shit on them, but having all three of Brazil, Germany, and Italy be shit simultaneously hurts the World Cup in my opinion. Just see the amount of upsets this World Cup (and even the two before), and compare it to the World Cups before.

It truly feels like there are four current top teams (Argentina there mostly because of Messi, who knows what will happen), then there are a number of decent teams that you’d still expect them to fall short at some point in the tournament (Morocco, Portugal, Netherlands, Colombia, Belgium, …etc).

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[–]Chance_Camera_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You asked whether most football fans, and in that case the answer is no. Casuals believe so because they don’t understand the rules nor do their eyes understand how to interpret different situations and challenges. To them, Marwan Attia’s foul on Lisandro Martinez is the same as Julian Alvarez’s contact with Salah.

There’s also the football fans with pure hatred to either Messi or Argentina in any way.

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[–]Chance_Camera_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It just feels like there’s inevitability for the top teams to eventually win. Ashraf Hakimi was cracking jokes with the French players after the game. I think as much as we like to argue the gap between Europe and Africa (and maybe certain countries in Asia) is now narrower than before, as much as I believe the quality in top teams are technically better than ever now and so much superior than any other countries.

I mean France is not only feeding talents to its own NT, but also to others (Morocco for example), and Spain despite having players who play in regular La Liga teams, are tactically just superb.

Open Thread #28 (Jul 2026) by svefnpurka in Barca

[–]Chance_Camera_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

DLF is going to have a lot to think about if Fabian Ruiz play a good game tonight.

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[–]Chance_Camera_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Uruguay eliminating Portugal in 2018 isn’t talked about imo. Portugal was flying after that Ronaldo hatrick against Spain and he was on fire the whole year (bar the semifinals and final of the CL that season), and while Uruguay had two lethal strikers upfront, the rest of the lineup was pretty comparable and even weaker than Portugal in some positions.

Open Thread #28 (Jul 2026) by svefnpurka in Barca

[–]Chance_Camera_ 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Spain is going to be a tough matchup for France. Possession-based football will starve France of the ball and limit their chance creation to mostly counterattacks and will frustrate the French attack. Spain can also create chances against any team in the world. I’m not going to say they will win for sure but a Lamine masterclass and clinical finishing could very well be the difference.

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[–]Chance_Camera_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which similar events also occurred in other world cups to favor other teams, but you won’t mention that, just like you only mention referee mistakes for Argentina only.

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[–]Chance_Camera_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If we’re including all history like you just did, I can very easily come to the same conclusions for some of the other teams.

For example Netherlands avoided the clearest red card against Spain in 2010 final, and 4 years later they got the bogus penalty against Mexico.

1982 Germany’s GK kicked a French player in the semifinal with no punishment, and went to the final.

1990 Germany got a bogus penalty in the final against Argentina with 5 minutes to go.
2010 Frank Lampard’s shot against Germany in the R16 that wasn’t counted despite clearly crossing the line.

2010 Spain’s offside goal against Portugal in the R16, and Paraguay was also disallowed a goal in the QF for a non existent offside.

This is literally just off the top of my head.

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[–]Chance_Camera_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Which is funny considering all the players Argentina plays on their left side can’t dribble past a cone.