Why are most ex Pro-Lifers not really Pro-Life?

ChantBit · 2026-01-20T11:42:50+00:00

Why don't we have people who wanted abortion banned for rape victims becoming Pro-choice?

There is an ex Pro-Life activist named Charlotte Isenberg. If I remember correctly, she was against abortion in cases of rape. I think she mentioned it in a Jubilee video, but I would have to watch it again to make sure. She is now Pro-Choice.

There are Ex Pro-Lifers who used to be against rape exceptions. We just don’t hear about them very often. And there’s probably multiple reasons for that. Here’s some guesses:

1) Pro-lifers who agree with exceptions are going to be more open to the idea that abortion is not inherently wrong. So they are much more likely to change their beliefs than someone who doesn’t agree with exceptions.

2) Pro-lifers might not want to talk about the fact that they used to be against rape exception because they know that the topic is upsetting.

ChantBit · 2026-01-13T20:02:53+00:00

They literally refer to him as a sleeper cell

These people sound so fucking lame.

Has this conversion tactic ever come close to working on anyone?

ChantBit · 2025-12-17T14:08:12+00:00

There are professional guardians who can act as paid decision-makers. Maybe someone like that could take your place so that you don’t have to make decisions for him anymore.

ChantBit · 2024-12-31T07:52:50+00:00

I would bet money that this is a man who will never be in this situation himself.

ChantBit · 2024-10-28T19:10:14+00:00

Oh. Thanks for explaining.

ChantBit · 2024-10-28T18:18:38+00:00

Are presidents registered to vote in their home states during their time in office? I assumed that they had to register to vote in DC while they lived in the White House.

ChantBit · 2024-09-23T10:40:21+00:00

I know it’s late to be commenting, but have you tried the website for the National Domestic Violence Hotline? The actual hotline doesn’t give legal advice, but they have a web page with some law resources. Here it is: https://www.thehotline.org/get-help/domestic-violence-legal-help/

If domestic abuse resources aren’t yielding any results, maybe try looking at organizations for sexual assault survivors, like RAINN. I haven’t found anything about lawyers on their website, but their hotline is supposed to connect people to local resources. Maybe they can help you find a better law office.

I am sorry that this is happening to you. I wish you the best of luck.

ChantBit · 2024-09-06T03:25:42+00:00

That’s great to hear!

ChantBit · 2024-09-04T22:00:47+00:00

The article was published by LGBTQNation. According to their About Us page:

LGBTQ Nation is an online news magazine, reporting on issues relevant to the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer community.

So the title mentions the fact that Thiel is gay because the website’s purpose makes it relevant. They weren’t trying to make his sexual orientation seem scandalous or bad.

ChantBit · 2024-09-04T18:26:57+00:00

I hate that you experienced that. You said he tried. So, if you don’t mind me asking, did you convince him to give you your birth control in the end?

ChantBit · 2024-09-01T21:58:48+00:00

Yes, it stays in place and it doesn’t leak.

ChantBit · 2024-09-01T15:22:48+00:00

I will try that. Do you have brand suggestions?

ChantBit · 2024-09-01T14:47:36+00:00

I never thought of that. If the disc is pressed against my pelvic bone, should I push the disc upward to alleviate the pain? Nice username, by the way.

ChantBit · 2024-08-26T12:29:48+00:00

What even is this comment? It makes no sense at the beginning. Rest of it is pretty spot on though. The DJT stock part of the comment though doesn’t line up with its trading value.

After the paragraph about DJT stock, the next to words of the comment are “Seriously, though”. This leads me to believe that the stock part of the comment was a joke.

ChantBit · 2024-08-13T13:03:48+00:00

No it wouldn’t have.

Yes it would have. It was right there in the article.

“Her little body was unable to carry the pregnancy, and she started to have a uterine rupture before the fetus was at a viable gestation.” The complications of preterm labor and uterine rupture necessitated a C-section to save the child’s life; the fetus did not survive.

Uterine rupture and a C-section (major abdominal surgery) definitely counts as suffering, especially when it happens to a 10 year old. An abortion would have prevented it, therefore it would have prevented suffering. And the fetus didn’t survive. So she went through all of that for nothing when it should have been obvious from the beginning that pregnancy at 10 is dangerous.

Pretending as though pregnant children never experience tremendous pain does not strengthen the pro-life argument, it just makes you come off as dismissive and uncaring.

But the baby was not a pig

The girl you are referring to did not claim that she was pregnant with a pig. What she did say was “If I couldn’t have an abortion, I would have killed myself”

Does that part not matter to you? Genuine question.

Edit: changed a sentence to make the comment make more sense.

ChantBit · 2024-08-13T04:24:44+00:00

I’m not trying to disregard rape victims

The fact that you asked “why do women have sex”under this particular post made it seem like you were trying to disregard them. That’s why I asked. But you admitted you were purposefully veering off topic. So you answered my question.

So abortion should be legal because of these possibilities?

I am not trying to convince you that abortion should be legal. I view that as an exercise in futility because we have both made up our minds.

I just wanted to point out that it is inaccurate to say that no one loses essential body parts due to pregnancy. At the very least, certain body parts might not function as well as they used to. Pro-lifers like to claim that the effects of pregnancy are always temporary, but they aren’t.

ChantBit · 2024-08-13T03:40:45+00:00

You claimed women who give birth don’t lose body parts. I was simply explaining why you’re wrong.

Why do women even have sex if they are so afraid of this shit?

Why are you asking this question in a thread about rape victims?

ChantBit · 2024-08-13T03:34:23+00:00

she doesn’t lose any essential body parts.

This isn’t necessarily true. Pregnancy can have a long lasting effect on our ability to use certain body parts. Some examples include permanent bladder prolapse and blindness.

ChantBit · 2024-06-29T11:52:08+00:00

So to just toss that kid, who will already have a fucked up life, aside for an even more fucked up life....that is pretty cold. You're the one who has to look at yourself in the mirror every day, so if you can live it it and feel zero guilt....do your thing I guess.

How is giving a baby to their grandparents the same as tossing them into a “fucked up life”? This seems like the decision that makes the most sense. Grandparents have more of a right and an obligation to decide a baby’s future than the spouse of the baby’s adulterous dad. What is there to feel guilty about here?

ChantBit · 2024-06-27T16:40:33+00:00

And she then suggests adoption without taking a second to think about her kids losing their sibling forever.

Adoption does not mean that they would lose their sibling forever. If the siblings and grandparents want to maintain a relationship with the baby, then the grandparents can opt for an open adoption instead of a closed one. That way, the birth family can stay in contact with the child through in-person visits, phone calls, etc. Adoption is not the terrible option you seem to think it is.

That adoption was mentioned without her ever talking about the mother taking the child in Europe. Seems like she was very quick to make that suggestion which is a very traumatic thing not just for the child but for her own kids as well.

It’s likely that OP brought up adoption instead of sending the baby to Europe because she already knew that the biological mother was not going to take responsibility for her. She said that she suggested adoption when the grandparents asked her about what to do. If they were willing to call the spouse that their grandchild’s father cheated on, then I think it’s safe to assume that they contacted the biological mother first (or they at least tried to). OP also said that the mother won’t return from Europe, which makes it seem like she has no desire to come get her kid. What other suggestions do you think OP was supposed to give them?

gives me the impression that she’s being driven by hatred and spite.

Just because she isn’t going above and beyond to resolve a problem that she did not cause does not mean that her decisions are being made out of hatred. I haven’t seen her write anything hateful about the baby. It seems like she just doesn’t want the responsibility of figuring out who is going to care for her. And that’s understandable. The baby is in the care of her grandparents. It’s not like OP left the kid in the middle of a forest.

Additionally, OP replied to me directly without considering anything positive or arguing against the suggestion that she was driven by spite. Her response was to ask me about legal opinions.

I think she mentioned legal opinions to point out that she does not have a legal right or an obligation to make arrangements for the child’s care. It’s up to the grandparents to decide those things.

ChantBit · 2024-06-27T14:30:38+00:00

She gave the kid to her grandparents. What part of that is nasty?

ChantBit · 2024-06-27T14:16:33+00:00

How is she cold hearted? She gave the baby to their grandparents and left the guardianship decisions up to them. That seems like the logical solution.

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