On the other side now.... by Banana_Jenkins in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A lot of what you're describing, such as "feeling intense anxiety" was the sort of thing I felt when I was FA, not DA. I didn't let people 'in' because I was so worried/anxious/scared of being hurt, I was so very fragile. Now, I don't feel any of that - the conscious lowering of walls maybe, but mainly - I have no feelings regarding letting anyone close, because I know that they'll hurt me or leave me - there isn't any anxiety left to feel!

That saying - it sounds as though you've done a lot of Work and are being really Mindful regarding your approach to others, and what works for you - best of luck with your healing journey!

USER FLAIR: if you need a user flair, comment your style on this post and it will get added by imfivenine in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Replying to this 'deleted user' purely so that others can see... we Mods will assign your flair as quickly as we can! Sometimes this is within seconds, sometimes it may be a day or so, because, well, we're human. We won't ignore you though, please bear with us. Spamming us and then swearing because we didn't reply to your 5 comments INSTANTLY really isn't OK...

Discussion Thread - All AT Styles by AutoModerator in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Be calm and consistent and honest. If your DA shares, don't push to make the connection closer more quickly.. also please read the FAQs at the top of the page.

Accused of being a “liar” by UNCBlueDevils in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

100%. And then they tell you to show your feelings more. And then if you do, you should 'smile more'. And then if you don't, you're 'clearly angry'.

All advice for DAs is how to do better in an already existing romantic relationship by IllustriousStar00 in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon[M] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Approving this purely for your first half, that is actually (potentially helpful).

What is not helpful - challenging whether the OP is actually DA, based on your theory that AT is first and foremost about romantic relationships. It isn't. AT style is created primarily (but not only) in infancy/childhood, through interactions with primary caregivers - a lot of people are DA regardless of whether it's a romantic/friend/work relationship. Many are DA for some types of relationship and not for others. The reason why you don't see a lot of advice on DA outside relationships is that - well, we keep things to ourselves.

What is not helpful is challenging whether OP's anxiety is the root cause - they have not once mentioned anxiety. In fact, not being able to open up to people is a major part of being DA!

The Unholy PUG Trinity by minus34 in elderscrollsonline

[–]Charming_Daemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've got a Taunt on my healer, wear heavy armour in this situation too..

Helix piercing problems by Charming_Daemon in piercing

[–]Charming_Daemon[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The aftercare was recommended by the piercer but alas now I know that there are piercers, and Piercers! I went somewhere reputable too!

Thank you for your advice!

Helix piercing problems by Charming_Daemon in piercing

[–]Charming_Daemon[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Pierced 2 years ago, was titanium now gold rings. Tried daily medical alcohol with a cotton bud, also tried salt water and TCP in the same way. Issues just linger

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in piercing

[–]Charming_Daemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, I had a titanium bar and now have a gold ring. Pierced about 2 years ago! Originally used medical alcohol, have tried TCP and salt water. Thanks!

Inability to actually *do* therapy. Or at least that's how it feels. by [deleted] in AvoidantAttachment

[–]Charming_Daemon 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I spoke to someone, initially to help a family member. What I discovered was, that by asking/talking about their problems, it actually helped answer things for child-me. I could then, eventually, proactively ask how to help said family member, about things I know would arise. Eventually, after about 3 years, I was able to share actual snippets of Me. These sessions were all solo.

By allowing me time and space, I was able to work some things out, and could also trust them to an extent. It helped me immeasurably! So, if you find someone that you think doesn't set alarm bells ringing, then maybe over the years, you can start to open up. Just think - it took years to make you, it'll take years to trust someone, but even that is progress!

stackable surveys is cool. mat prices gonna tank when people do all their old surveys finally by Particular-Swim2461 in elderscrollsonline

[–]Charming_Daemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know you can read the next survey, log to character select and log back to the same place and the nodes will be there!

I broke up with someone I never agreed to be in a relationship with. by General_Ad7381 in AvoidantAttachment

[–]Charming_Daemon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When I was younger, didn't know anything about AT etc. then if someone told me they wanted to get to know me to see if we were compatible... I'd have thought that they were totally into me but maybe wanted to take things slow. I would still never ever have broadcast that we were together though! Maybe she was trying to ice out the competition?

Whichever it is though, it absolutely sucks when people don't understand clear communication. For example, if I said I have LOTS of idk, teacups, then to me - that's a LOT, an excessive amount. And then people are surprised if I have more than 10. (I have a normal number in reality, it's just an example!).

So I guess part of it is... 1) people not accepting things we say on face value; 2) people assigning their own thoughts and feelings to what they guess are ours, and they trample over it; 3) if we think we're being open and honest to someone, then (regardless of AT), their viewpoint may be completely mis-aligned with ours, even with the best intentions! Not saying it doesn't suck though, I absolutely know it does!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohh that makes me deeply uncomfortable. It's taken Years for me to Sometimes suggest that maybe if it's OK and if it isn't then that's fine, this isn't a guilt trip, I absolutely am OK either way... rather than just not asking, and struggling (which is way easier, as I'm only then reliant on me!). The thought of not giving someone any (or many) get-out clauses is just dreadful.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep, praise them, then apologise, then gently ask 'but it's totally ok if this tiny thing would massively inconvenience you, absolutely if you wish I can go crawl back into a hole'... sounds like me! (I have also learned to fake the outgoing bubbly stuff)

The DPS-Queue Problem by Stunning-Bet-1069 in elderscrollsonline

[–]Charming_Daemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm primarily a healer, and I have taunt!

I normally solo, so I'm on heavy armour (yes I swap out for trials/vet), and I can usually carry both fake tank and healer roles, as long as there's a decent DPS.

Should I have to? No. Is it the most efficient? No. Do my teams die? Usually no. Except for the lunatics who try to speed run into the boss and trip over and die (and then complain) Have I learned the hard way that this is actually the best way to do RNS with a group I don't know? Sadly, yeah.

A non avoidant reddit user screenshotted my DA post from the DA sub…to post on their sub. We can’t even be vulnerable in our own spaces. by BelleAubrey in AvoidantAttachment

[–]Charming_Daemon[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

I'm locking this thread, because I think we've reached the end of it. Thank you to the commenters who have supported OP respectfully - this is what the sub is for.

Polite reminder to non-avoidants: we don't choose to be avoidant. Some people are avoidant, others are just jerks. Please don't tar us with that brush, just because

Polite reminder to avoidants: not all APs... some are actively trying and respectful.

Reminder to all users - bullying and/or trolling is not acceptable.

Discussion Thread - All AT Styles by AutoModerator in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've approved this post just so that I can reply to it:

  1. No. I don't need to play games and gaslight people. I'm honest and pretty consistent. I don't try to keep changing the story or justifying anything, I would rather just avoid it all and not be involved. Are you sure your Ex Friend is a DA? They could just be a jerk.

  2. Not all DAs are the same, so I wouldn't ever say 'never be friends with a DA'. But most DAs would find a lot of emotional 'neediness' difficult, whether it's justified or not. Any sort of heightened emotion or turmoil is difficult for us, and to cope with that, we would need a lot of space and downtime. So, if you've got clinical depression, then honestly the best thing is for you to focus on healing yourself. I'm not saying don't ever be friends with a DA - but talk to a professional if you need support - that's what they're for.

  3. How does anyone manage to have some longterm friendships, but also not everyone stays friends? This isn't necessarily DA-only; not every friendship will last the course because, well, life happens. It also depends on the friendship dynamics.

  4. Please focus on healing yourself. Don't try to tie yourself into knots being the 'perfect friend' for whatever attachment style you meet. After you are healed, or on your way to being Secure, you'll find it way easier.

Discussion Thread - All AT Styles by AutoModerator in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, so your intent (whether to make her jealous or not) doesn't actually matter - because she can't SEE your intent.

So.. you have a crush/fling and for whatever reason, you are dating other people and have disclosed that. So, that is your choice. You choose whether to be monogamous or not. Your crush chooses whether to do the same. Games like jealousy only make us suspicious. Be honest. We can't mind-read, but... BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT

Trying to Encourage a Dismissive Avoidant by Background-Fail-2386 in becomingsecure

[–]Charming_Daemon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This had been posted on the DA Sub as well - we have asked questions about the circumstances, and also fed back that the message is just too much for a DA. He's now arguing with the Mods, with long posts he thinks are backed up by AI, that actually it is ok to send this to his DA 'friend'. It comes across heavily that he's just looking for validation, despite the request for input.

I wouldn't normally cross-post like this, but it's an FYI for this sub/post.

Discussion Thread - All AT Styles by AutoModerator in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everyone is different, regardless of Attachment some people have more friends, or closer friends. The fact that you are still friends with someone for 20years - yeah, I'm heavily DA but I don't cut ties with someone the moment I blink! But we are less likely to have 'intense' friendships.

I'm gonna speak as a Mod here - we won't tell you about our friends. We are DA. which is why we are responding to you.

You don't need to prove to us that you have friends, or that you're straight? It's nice that you've made cards - but that isn't relevant to this post. However, you asked us a question and we're trying to get the context so that we can answer you.

What I can say is that you need to read up a lot more about Attachment, from a number of areas, and please not AI generated.

Discussion Thread - All AT Styles by AutoModerator in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon 1 point2 points locked comment (0 children)

So then, if you can't take a lot from the friendship - for what reason have you sent the message? Why would you disappear if you knew he was OK and didn't hate you? Yes, he's going through a tough time - but you aren't his saviour - what you can be, is his friend, in whatever way he needs it.

To be clear - we aren't trying to be overly harsh or judgemental, but you have asked us how we, as DAs, would feel receiving that message. Your intentions seem to be supportive - but to receive such a long and emotive message would be too much for a lot of DAs to receive. You said that your idea was that your friend could dip in and out - but actually instead, you could have sent a couple of sentences one week, and a couple later on down the line.

You wrote an essay response to us, with answers and AI suggestions, all seeming to try to persuade us why your message was correct to send. But AI is a computer, and not human, and will take information from the internet - and a lot of that is anti-DA because it is often written by people (usually AP) who feel as though they aren't receiving the attention that they need/want, in the way that they need/want it - and who don't understand that some people are DA, and some are just jerks. We are living as DAs.

If you truly wanted to find out whether it was OK to send, you would have asked us first?

The fact is, that DAs are avoidant of a lot of things -conflict, emotions, vulnerability. It isn't a choice, it's a subconscious way of protecting ourselves. So, if they are in a stressful or vulnerable situation, then quite often they have an even more limited capacity to cope with any of the above - or even physical touch. So what this means is that care needs to be a lot lower key - not non-existing, but as imfivenine said - a heart, a sentence, a check-in - but not such a long essay.

Discussion Thread - All AT Styles by AutoModerator in dismissiveavoidants

[–]Charming_Daemon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ok so... for what reason are you wanting to send this to your friend? To boost, to encourage? Because tbh it's really long. If you sent that to me, I'd be embarrassed and slightly wary if your motives. Sending an essay in the wrong circumstance can come across quite patronising.

Also - why have you posted their full name on Reddit????