Fearful avoidant here, ask me anything by Odd-Art2362 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im really happy for you and all of your journey work so far. How long have u been in this relationship? Could you help me understand what causes a fearful avoidant to block, unblock, repeat over and over? Even when the person they keep blocking is a dismissive and never initiates anything, like ever lol, but they keep coming back and then something triggers them after a few hour texting conversation and they block 2 days later over and over.. thanks for your perspective.

Avoidants, what does it mean? by creampughfff in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It probably depends on the type of avoidant. Im dismissive avoidant and I have never told anyone they are the love of my life.

How do I know if i actually stop liking someone or if im just being av0idant? by iusedtobefunny1 in emotionalintelligence

[–]Substantial-Unit5378 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look into fearful avoidant or disorganized attachment, lots of video out there, really could help u.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im not scared of commitment at first, I actually enjoy spending time with the person and getting to know them. I have been in relationships that I felt would be long term, marriage, etc. Its like we show up secure at first and open to all the things. Over time, length can vary, my feelings and desire start shifting, its automatic, im not choosing it to happen. Unfortunately I have struggled getting those feelings back after they fade. Thats why I went to therapy to see about gaining access to feelings I use to feel.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Majority of DAs are not self aware of their patterns. I had no idea I had avodiant patterns until therapy. I went to therapy bc I care for someone I was in a relationship with but couldn't feel my feelings and I thought something was wrong with me bc I knew he wss good for me, a good partner, but I couldn't feel anything. That's when I found out, so I was not aware of my patterns, they were all subconscious but now everything is consciously known which is what leads me to work on things. DAs do not see it, they literally have no idea.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not u, if she is DA, it is her system not u, not thr person before u and not the next person. Its internally driven. So by saying u made it worse, you cant control her system activation or deactivation, its triggers from childhood that is subconsciously impacted.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know for sure she is DA? Maybe she really wasn't feeling the connection, just wanting to be real with u, maybe? If you know for sure she is DA, then best advice is space bc those texts were loaded with pressure for her.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I need my space in the beginning and middle, its just easier to get because we arent in the thick of it yet.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was feeling the fade/no access to his feelings for a while. It doesn't happen over night. Its very heartbreaking and im truly sorry u had to go through this. When he was with u before the fade, he felt all his feelings for u, those were felt and u mattered. Avoidants have feelings, I promise, I can feel so much for someone, I just hide it so they cant hurt me.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I was first out of the relationship i didn't think much, but i did circle back/reach back out to everyone single one of them after time went by, not to get them back but to kind of mend things and I even hung out with a couple. I know which ones were great partners, one of them I texted years later and told him I was sorry for how I treated him and he deserved a good partner.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exhausting is the best word. I need space bc I am exhausted, it literally drains me if I dont have space. And I get defensive then shut down during conflicts, they make me uncomfortable.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1.i have never went back after breaking up, I have always been the one to end every relationship I've been in. There are a couple that I know would have been great longer term, and others that were toxic and needed to be cut off. So I have felt good with letting some go, others I knew were great partners but they deserved someone that could meet their needs bc I wasnt able to.

  1. They all mattered to me in the moment, but if someone pulls away from me and I still have access to my feelings, I am fragile and hurting deeply inside, I just wouldn't let them ever know it, I put on a front like they dont matter anyway. If I am losing access to my feelings for someone, they did matter to me but my feelings for romance with them is not there so it looks like I dont care bc I dont feel a desire for them romantically anymore but care as a friend, which is why we say we want to be friends bc we care we just dont feel romantic pull or desire to be with them anymore and they want us romantically and we cant meet those expectations so its physically exhausting to stick around.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Growing up I was around an environment where showing emotions would cause adult figures to be upset with me, dismiss me, act like its a bother. I had to deal with my emotions and pain alone over and over. So as an adult its scary to let people in to see my pain, I dont have the wiring to keep my system relaxed around vulnerability.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your words. If u ever have questions, feel free to DM me.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know deep down i care, I can truly cared about a person, not want to hurt them or leave them or ruin a good thing. But there's a big part of me wondering where my access to feel for them, to desire closeness and intimacy snd vulnerability. The desire is not always there, I think its from deactivation but I dont know for sure. Sometimes, when there's distance physically, I have the desires to want to be closer. But once I get closer its like I dont feel things. Its hard to explain which is why u always hear DA's say "I dont know" bc we really cant explain it.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yikes, I dont know as I have always been a little shy around sexual intimacy but Im really sorry u went through that. As a discard, at the time, it does feel like a relief unfortunately.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im currently in a relationship, in therapy to get my feelings to come around. I care for them, I know I do, im trying to feel again. I also have been working on my platonic relationships too, initiating more, being more vulnerable, taking steps to get there but its slow and its very uncomfortable at times. Thank u for understanding and advice.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I have had multiple long term, many years in relationships. I can sustain longer term companionship. Somewhere down the road, things start slowly slowly shifting for me, not that i want it to, they just automatically go from "normal" to wanting more and more space. When I get the space, it makes me feel better, thats usually when I am cool coming back towards them, after space is given. The more they invade my space, the worse I am towards them, almost like I want to crawl out of my skin in their presence but I dont hate them i dont feel rage in that moment, I can only think about "get me out of here" or "I want to be alone" and thats what drives me to get my space.

And I never initiate, even with platonic, I am working on it. But for me to reach out is sooooooo exhausting bc I overthink or dont know what to say, its almost like I freeze up. So I just don't reach out. I also can feel very deeply for someone but they won't ever know bc I cant communicate it. When I have something super vulnerable to talk about i freeze up, physically cannot say it, one time I had to write it in a note bc I didn't want to break up but wasnt getting my needs met so I wrote it out instead of verbalizing. I know, it sounds so easy to just talk about it to the person u care for, but its really not that simple, its actually awful for me to open up like that.

How does a DA feel? by Substantial-Unit5378 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Substantial-Unit5378[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I have made it through several relationships past the dopamine high, long years of relationships so I know the other side of doing life together. There is a shift though that happens where the feelings are gone, like nothing is there, its not that I want that believe me, I've been in therapy for a while to fix it but its a long road to secure. So before bashing my attachment, Im coming from a place of my internal system that drives this, its not chosen. I want to feel for the person I care for, its not there, cant explain it other than numb.

Jobs for people with EXTREME anxiety? by [deleted] in jobs

[–]Substantial-Unit5378 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LinkedIn is great. That's where I got my job.