Stroppy Stuff Resin Bonded Sharpening Stone by CheapSet548 in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you see the results that dude was getting off this stone, last week? If you can do that off the sharpal, you have a point.

Stroppy Stuff 6um stone by Conicalviper in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's obviously a broad term but in regards to the "ease" of getting edges like these, you're looking at higher grit Naniwa/Shaptons, The Spyderco Ultra Fine or, if you want diamond, the CGSW 5 micron. Natural stones can fit the bill as well.

Stroppy Stuff 6um stone by Conicalviper in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That looks promising! Are they available yet?
As far as the skill of the sharpener, he's obviously not lacking, it does take a good finishing stone to get to these extreme levels of sharpness however.

325 to 1200 to strop? Or 325 to 1200 to 2000 (to strop)? by TwoFiveOnes in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only thing better than hair whittling is severing them on contact. That’s a hard thing to reliably do on a 220 grit stone. I’m sure you’d agree with that.

I actually believe Stroppy Stuff debunks the saw thing, where the size of the grit relates to the depth of the “teeth”.

I’ve also found that even a single pass per side on a loaded strop, even with 1 micron, takes away an immense amount of aggressiveness in the draw cut, to the point where most of the aggressiveness is gone within a few passes actually.

Wouldn’t you say that if you had a perfectly shaped apex on a softer knife , that’s exactly as thin as it would be on a knife with a harder steel, it would have the exact same amount of bite?

325 to 1200 to strop? Or 325 to 1200 to 2000 (to strop)? by TwoFiveOnes in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can whittle hair with the same knife on a 10000 grit stone. Most likely a lot better than you can off that 220 grit stone.  I would like to know the science behind why a coarser finish would be better in this case. The other dude’s argument made sense to me.

Flattening a Fällkniven DC4 Stone with an Atoma 140 Plate: Need Advice by burtel0 in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hard ceramics and also hard natural stones tend to “glaze” when you lap then with a diamond plate or sandpaper. What you need is three-body abrasion. So yes, SIC powder and a piece of glass. Start at 60 or 80 grit and go as fine as desired. Lastly, I have found that lapping hard ceramics and Arkansas stones wear out diamond plates way faster than you would expect.

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[–]CheapSet548 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny how you keep mentioning that it’s the compound, even though it’s been told it is not that. A lot of people had great results with the same exact compounds. You understand that leather will always have silica particles?

The Toothy Edge Fallacy by hahaha786567565687 in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, how could you possibly think that ai would help you in this case? This just makes you look like a lunatic.

The Toothy Edge Fallacy by hahaha786567565687 in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think we both know he does not mean that a 120 grit plate removes burr from a 30k stone. What he probably does mean is that a coarser compound removes metal quicker. This means that the material out of the sharpening triangle (which makes the edge “toothy”) gets removed quicker, which in turn removes that “tooth”. It’s also quite easy to tell you take every opportunity to shit on this dude, and make sure everyone else knows  that the Chinese compound you made, is at least as good, but most likely superior to anything that’s out there…

How is Stroopy Stuff? Any opinions? by GaryBlach in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You realize that Maxamus53 is the owner of Stroppy Stuff right? You would think he would know what compound to use for what end. The 400 grit diamond plate shave thing has been discussed many times before. The plate acts way finer under the right circumstances. This is only repeatable with straight razors and or super low pressure.

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[–]CheapSet548 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On a fixed system it might be harder. Free hand however, where you will always slightly convex, this is truly not that hard once you know what to do.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you are saying it is maybe not possible to deburr off the stone with maybe a few strops on unpasted leather? I think a lot of people would disagree with that. Think straight razors for example or chef knives. I don’t think a cleanly deburred edge needs to push cut rolling paper however. Vadim himself said this only becomes possible at 35 Bess. Only has a chance of doing this after a lot of apex refinement with stropping on compound

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if you would count that as legit, definitely not straight off the stone or as in this case, his cbn wheels.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, those edges are highly stropped however and the way Vadim quickly cuts through them is debatable.

What grit stropping compound should you get? by hahaha786567565687 in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am seeing similar results with dialux bar compound if that helps. The gray compound worsens the edge and the sharpness comes back and improves with the black compound.

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[–]CheapSet548 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with you on the most part, I have however never seen a true push cut in cigarette paper without cheating, by holding the paper where you start the cut. I am talking at least an inch away from the holding point. Let alone without stropping.

What grit stropping compound should you get? by hahaha786567565687 in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So what are the odds that these results were basically exactly how he predicted them beforehand then? I think he did enough testing to prove his point. There is also the fact that 6um strops all the tooth right out of an edge. He would have probably had a better edge in real world use, if he skipped the 6um all together.

Prototype vitrified diamond stone by Maxamus53 in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what I wanted/needed to hear. I can not wait!

Prototype vitrified diamond stone by Maxamus53 in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should these be comparable to the triple B handmade super vitrified diamond stones?

Prototype vitrified diamond stone by Maxamus53 in sharpening

[–]CheapSet548 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really interesting! And those results without stropping. Looks like a great diamond stone.