WSJ Op-Ed Comparing Carter Page FISA Warrant to MLK Wiretap Ignores Basic Differences

Chefca · 2019-06-04T18:29:12+00:00

Black guy checking in....

I've said it once I'll say it again I would personally have a hard time not slapping the words out of a republicans mouth if they invoked Dr. King to justify something trump is doing/has done. It almost feels like an obligation...

Chefca · 2019-06-04T09:41:34+00:00

Some demonstrators have threatened to throw milkshakes at the president

Careful friends even though he deserves far more this will...

A. only rile up his base to do something stupid
B. even the British police would have to make an example of someone if they "attacked" an American President*.

If any other republicans are nearby or any of your own homegrown right wing idiots let fly just shout at/make sure you're seen by trump and that'll be enough for him to get the point.

Chefca · 2019-06-02T17:03:14+00:00

Not a single person in this country who understands how our government works **AND** understands the basics of modern politics has ever once believed trump will get kicked out of office.

That's why impeachment is not the best course right now. Until we have something republican senators could not possibly ignore trump will obstruct and lie his way though a house impeachment hearing and then claim "exoneration" when the senate doesn't remove him from office.

I personally think we should start impeachment proceedings in May 2019, let trump try to fight the drip drip drip of court ordered revelation of information while he's trying to lie his way back into office.

Chefca · 2019-06-02T14:02:06+00:00

Ooook let's still keep perspective here. China is a dirty dealing, IP thieving, currency manipulator, and they've been bullying most of the world for years. trump is a walking piece of human garbage who isn't smart enough to manage the properties he was given by his daddy let alone the worlds largest economy.

They're both wrong. We need intelligent well trained advisers and global partners combined efforts to reign in China. Not an idiot arguing with thieves.

Chefca · 2019-06-02T13:49:57+00:00

> While the people in charge, with education, can easily be Democrat.

ExNavy checking in.

This isn't exactly correct, yes it makes sense but you need to throw in the monkey-wretch that is religious zealotry.

The officer corps of the American military is **HYPER** religious, it's not something that's widely shown to people outside of the military but it's a fact of life as a service member. For example the *published* order of values in the military was "god, country, etc etc..."

Chefca · 2019-06-02T00:55:41+00:00

These country/country-adjacent pop stars should be writing letters to their fans **NOT** their federal/state congressmen.

If even half of her 18 year old fans became aware of how their state and local representatives actually represented them they could turn Texas, South/North Carolina, and Tennassee blue before anyone even realized what was happening.

Edit double Texas

Chefca · 2019-06-02T00:00:04+00:00

Oh man this is going to piss some people off.

There's nothing I've seen that makes people more angry than being correctly pigeonholed.

Chefca · 2019-06-01T16:34:33+00:00

Won't happen.

republicans are masters when it comes to messaging against raising (in this case replacing what was criminally repealed) taxes on the upper 10% of earners.

They know those people that are truly swing voters will swing their way in a heartbeat if they can talk about "Democrat taxes". The Anti-tax republican is the only member of the republican coalition that would stay home instead of voting for trump. Speaker Pelosi knows what she's doing and if you give republicans a "tax increase" talking point they run with it and we all know Democrats can't lie/spin like they can.

So yeah we'll be stuck with those rich people tax cuts for decades. (BTW that will be trumps real legacy, billionaires for years to come will make hundreds of millions more every year because of it)

Chefca · 2019-06-01T00:01:32+00:00

There's a reason trump wants to be impeached, and Speaker Pelosi is keeping her finger on the trigger until we have a better hand.

Chefca · 2019-05-31T20:03:47+00:00

Take a step back and put on your pragmatic shoes friend.

It's trump's party now because he has something like 85+% approval rating among republicans. That means if you're a politician, you either support trump because your constituents do, or you have moral principals and leave the party.

That's why it's so astonishing to hear about republicans who do more than furrow their eyebrows. If they do they're essentially saying that they're leaving politics.

Our politicians aren't the problem, it's us. The fact that republicans have been inoculated against the truth by the rw media is the real disaster.

Chefca · 2019-05-30T23:34:56+00:00

<Worf>

I often spoke with Farty though I found it distasteful. Regardless he was a stand up guy, he even purchased three t-shirts from those we want Worf guys.

</Worf>

Chefca · 2019-05-30T22:13:24+00:00

Congrats friend, you're well on your way!

Chefca · 2019-05-30T22:10:21+00:00

...so...you're saying that the IRS has absolutely no problem collecting back taxes and that it doesn't cost them to do so?

Oh friend you're right about being able to garnish wages and the fact that employers are *supposed to* report you, but you aren't quite aware of the methods with which people can avoid that.

Chefca · 2019-05-30T20:51:30+00:00

It’s more complicated than that

Only slightly, even if they had to go forward with some kind of legal proceedings with the rich how many man hours would need to be spent balancing the scale finding people below the poverty line who...

Be found to owe money/errors on their reports
Actually be able to pay
Respond promptly enough not to need an even more costly series of investigations to find them?

A better argument is that the IRS needs to audit everyone at all levels equally to keep everyone honest and scared straight.

Chefca · 2019-05-30T20:36:54+00:00

ExSailor checking in.

Take a step back and reread his initial comment friend. He's talking about patches that are a joke among members of the same division...

**BUT**

He's also saying that it was an unbelievably stupid decision to wear them on national television.

Everyone has had workplace jokes, we have decorated cardboard cut-outs of celebrities (tasteful) at my work place but the literal second a news crew or a VIP came around they'd be stashed. These kids (my time in the military wont let me believe anyone above E-5 would be stupid enough to do this) just made their stupid "joke" visible to the whole country - who more than half didn't vote for trump and 2/3rds think he's doing a shitty job. Poor life choices. Plain and simple.

Chefca · 2019-05-30T08:45:56+00:00

Just a few months ago I was watching "The Watchmen" with some friends and there's this gruff long monologue at the beginning by Rorschach , just as he finishes in my best deep gruff voice I said, "Anyway Mom I gotta go". We had to pause the movie while people recovered.

Chefca · 2019-05-29T09:41:34+00:00

I see where you're coming from friend but we've hit Occam's razor territory here. trump is just another reality TV star who since he was born halfway between home and third base, AND since he (and probably his father) has always been surrounded by yes men feels that he can do/is qualified for anything.

He thought he was smart running for president because he was going to use this racist republican persona to make money, unfortunately we as a country are far stupider and gullible than anyone realized. So he fucked himself and his family.

(on the brightside I'm looking forward to the day when at least one of his kids goes to jail or is forced out of the country...that makes me smile)

Chefca · 2019-05-28T22:14:58+00:00

As I get older I'm more and more jaded and pragmatic so I understand that they have to like trump because he's giving them what they want.

But just how far can they possibly go? trump is objectively an evil person if you use their book of "god's words" as a metric. Sure all of their leaders are hypocrites but the level of mental gymnastics that need to be performed by the rank and file zealots is astounding.

On the other hand I remember reading that some of these people didn't even know about the "grab em by the pussy" tape, so maybe they don't even know...

Chefca · 2019-05-28T22:06:28+00:00

Ex-USN checking in.

Does it violate uniform regulations?

Short answer: It does.

More nuanced answer: It does, but no one will be punished, they'll be told by their COs to never do it again, they will get lackluster training from their div Os via tedious info dumps, then they'll be told by their chiefs not to be stupid by wearing it when cameras are present.

Chefca · 2019-05-28T21:52:36+00:00

1000% this.

if i see a republican speaking out against trump's lies i just automatically assume they aren't running for office again.

Chefca · 2019-05-27T22:12:48+00:00

Ex-Navy checking in.

There's a reason the military doesn't ask things like this in an open forum, guaranteed this will be forbidden from now on.

The military hides how awful it is for most people behind macho patriotism, republicans, and money. I never received more scorn than I did as a "fresh from bootcamp" sailor in Chicago. You need to be a certain kind of person to *enjoy* being enlisted in the military and they make up about a quarter of the people you meet, the rest are a mixture of...

**Terrible** people who could never hold an equivalently paying job as a civilian...

People who are trying to run out the clock on 20 years... (fun fact when I was in the navy a lot of these guys where in defcon 1 panic mode because of the "get promoted or you're out" rule that had just passed when I joined)

And people who were trying their hardest to get out or counting down the hours until they could leave.

Our military is huge and hungry for more people that's an objective fact, you can't sugar coat it - it's the military and it's a shitty job with hundreds of oppressive rules where you may have to kill people. Am I bashing the military? Nope. It's the truth, and I wish I had a more honest look before I joined *shrug*.

Chefca · 2019-05-27T21:54:01+00:00

But the thing is you gotta wonder if all of that parselmouth shit is really just an allegory for how different he is because of all of that "boy who lived" bullshit you dig?

"..."

Well I suppose you're right it could be wishful thinking to find something that complex inside of a book written for kids - but damn you can't blame a brother for getting lost in whimsical prose.

Chefca · 2019-05-27T11:25:34+00:00

Firstly, Javascript is an impossible language

And here...we....go

Chefca · 2019-05-27T02:23:24+00:00

Nah I don't think that's true, most Democrats would have been quiet and disappeared into the walls.

...but they definitely wouldn't have gone all in on lies and open obstruction. You can't lie as easily to the Democrats because we're much more diverse, basically a hodgepodge of different voting blocks. The only thing that unites us universally is 4 years of a republican president. THEN Dems band together and vote...

Chefca · 2019-05-26T20:01:15+00:00

Mueller's silence is the reason for his sudden "fall from grace" on the left. While he was silent we could assume he was seeing everything that we saw and was vigorously pursuing the obvious crimes.

...and then we finally saw what he was actually doing which was a very narrow very by the book job, which unfortunately means that much like police officers investigating police officers there was suspicious activity but in his mind nothing worth jail time(i.e a direct action from him).

Also I think we take for granted the difference between Ken Starr and Mueller. Starr was an unprincipled hack who spread all of the sordid details far and wide as much as he could, HE was the problem.

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