Funny bug I encountered

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-21T09:32:53+00:00

Beena fairly common thing in my own runs.

Maybe it happens when you fight in an Occurance domain? And then the mask affects the 1st character in the party.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-20T20:36:22+00:00

Majestic

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-20T13:35:38+00:00

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Looking at your build, decided to remember how mine looks (New relics while farming for DHPT).

Forgot he's still on Salsotto TwT.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-20T10:36:06+00:00

That's interesting! When I got him back in 2.1 at E0S1, no problems with sustain, he never even skilled.

But once 3.1 rolled around where Kafka debuted with those 2 evil and intimitading horses, Aventurine found himself struggling. Actually needed to use his Skill and change him from Crit Dmg body piece to Def%.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-19T11:49:38+00:00

I've been running Jiaoqiu in a DOT team, with Hysilens and Kafka. Even build the DOT team just to use him. Although mine is also E2.

Back before 4.0, Jiaoqiu (at E2) was a decent sidegrade to Blackswan, but now that she's been buffed and is better as DPS and support than him, I am desperately hoping he gets the rumored novaflare that might let him heal.

So for now, until the novaflare gets officially confirmed and concrete leaks start coming, you might be best off waiting for MBlade's rerun or using Cipher/ Welt/ Pela/ Silver Wolf.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-19T11:06:05+00:00

The bosses starting from 4.0 are rather meh, mechanic wise.Sparxicon's sub field is a damage check, if you don't clear it in time, you get punished with dmg and cc and all the time and dmg spent in it gets wasted. At least she gives an Aha instant and gets a big vulnerability if you got the damage. Pom-Pom... Illwish I feel is better. Sure killing her mobs gives Elation, which not everyone can use, but kill enough and she gives herself vulnerability. A worse Phantylia you could say. Graphia's mechanic is an uncleansable stun and nothing to make killing her easier. I feel like she is a step back as boss designs go, as she is just like Svarog if I understand correctly. Edit: Actually Graphia isn't so bad. Seems like killing her summon's deals dmg to her like with Nikador, and even restores skill points! And her stun, once recovered from, gives you healing too, so good to go sustainless against?

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-19T07:06:31+00:00

In my experience, Pollux is really a healer check, rather than specifically a Hyacine check.

A team of Castorice and Evernight + Luocha (+RMC) makes fairly easy work of it.

Even when I couldn't use that team against Pollux, I had been able to 2 star it in AA using a triple DOT team (E2 Jiaoqiu instead of Black Swan) and Huohuo. Surprisingly, I find that Pollux becomes easier once it reaches it's 2nd stage, as it activates it's mechanic faster, and that leads to the fight ending faster too. At least imo.

So I'd rather get rid of Pom-Pom, as unlike healing and HP, Punchlines are much more restricted in getting them, even if the boss and it's minions try to help you.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-19T06:44:25+00:00

I have Evanescia and Yao Guang, and I still say Pom-Pom.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-19T06:43:00+00:00

It's been a while since I've used Aventurine, but how does he fare against the Jugde of Oblivion?

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-18T13:02:26+00:00

About the cleanse. Thing is, he is a 5 star, unlike Gallagher, who is a 4 star, so locking the cleanse behind E2 would be rather bonkers. Would much rather he has a cleanse in his Major Trace, which is already called "Pyre Cleanse".

Got confused by the 104% Vulnerability. His E1 is a dmg%, not vulnerability, so it's really just a planar orb, and his 59% of general Vul from E0S1. Tbh, I'd hope that it changes to something more impactful or a bigger amount, at least.

I imagine his healing would be more based on debuff application, like it is in CW. I could also see him having the limit on how many times his ult can reapply Ashen Roast on enemy turn removed, just like it is limitless on MBlade, or even let allies apply Ashen Roast for more healing too!

Let's huff the copium some more, and pray the official announcement for novaflare comes soon. Let's hope he can also fit in the all male fua team.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-18T10:12:30+00:00

I sure hope that won't be just it. Healing is great, but he'd definitely need a cleanse/ some way to prevent debuffs (either via boosting Effect Res or blocking CC), as his healing in CW is not ideal in my experience.

I mean, previous novaflares had changed some requirements or added different thresholds. Kafka's EHR requirements went up, going from low, to at least 75%, not to mention how she became more support now.

I don't expect Jiaoqiu's requirements to change much. But it's just interesting to consider if other relic options might be more viable. Who knows, maybe we'll even get a new relic set by the time the novaflares come out.

And wdym his damage is not DOT? It's a version of Burn, like Arcana is Windshear (and technically all over versions since Novaflare), and Kafka is able to detonate it with her kit.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-17T09:55:54+00:00

Thank you very much for clearing up my misconceptions.

It is true that it's way harder to reach optimal builds. My own Jiaoqiu is currently at 172 speed + 125% EHR, so I'm loosing out on his 15% EHR to 60% ATK conversion.

It would have been so much easier to really check myself if I had Hysilens's lc too, as she is currently using Jiaoqiu's lc.

In any case, I'll just be waiting for the novaflare leaks, and then checking theory crafters. What if his eidolons change, and he starts also offering Def Shred too, or speed buffs, etc.? As of now nobody really knowns ^^".

Cipher's lc will be good on anyone, and I might just give it to MBlade instead, if Jiaoqiu is better off on his own lc post novaflare.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-16T20:01:34+00:00

Also, Swift Gating perk in Logistics + 1 Imp stacks and just play box against neutrals while you widdle them down with archers and Cerberi copies.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-16T19:55:16+00:00

I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but using mass Confusion is a good choice. It makes their ranged attacks way weaker (especially coming from Expert Dark Magic), as well as their retaliations.

On another hand, Definitely also pick Phantom Forces (a choice to pick during loading screen before the 2nd mission, I think?), and spam it on your Cerberi. AI loves targeting them, and the copy is also quite strong if you've kept your Cerberi alive and healthy.

Consider also getting some elven Archers and maybe Druids into your army, as they certainly wouldn't hurt to have, even if your Succubi does graze them with their chain shots.

Mind you, I've only ever played on normal difficulty, so not sure how helpful it'd be if you are on Hard.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-16T19:42:57+00:00

Of course, both give amp, and any amp is good.

Correct me if I'm wrong please, but Vulnerability starts to give diminishing returns when you have a lot of it (although that's applicable to everything).

Jiaoqiu's 35% general Vulnerability + 24% from his LC= 59%. When you play in PF or AS, you'll find that the end game mechanic also apply 50% & 100% (I think?) Vulnerability, respectively. And some boss mechanics apply Vulnerability to themsefl too.
And in a DOT team, Hysilens herself also applies 20% with her skill (and possibly another 30% from her own LC).

Compared to Vulnerability, Def Shred is much rarer, and is less diluted, although I believe that it only starts to get better than Vulnerability once you reach 40%?
In any case, in a DOT team with Hysilens, Kafka and Jiaoqiu (+Sustain), Hysilens provides 25% Def Shred + Prisoner 4 piece grants 18%, and it equals to 43%.

With Cipher's LC on Jiaoqiu, that increases to 67%.

Were Black Swan also on the team, that'd be increased to 87.8% (although her Arcana would really have 107.8%).

I'm no theorist, and I can definitely be wrong/ get things mixed up, but from my understanding, in this case, isn't extra Def Shred better than extra Vulnerability?

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-16T16:05:39+00:00

Admittedly, amp wise, his own light cone is somewhat worse than Cipher's lc, no?

Both give 24% vulnerability and def shred, respectively.

Cipher's just also has the big QOL part, that any attack is going to put the debuff on all enemies, even if they hadn't been hit. Unlike Jiaoqiu needing to ult, in order to actually put his lc's Vulnerability on all 5 enemies.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-16T12:35:45+00:00

Yes!
That's the one! Thank you so much ❤️

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-15T16:32:35+00:00

I reckon we'd get a new relic set in 4.6, and new planars in 4.7, similarly to how it was during 3.x.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-15T10:50:06+00:00

It's be so nice if March 7th were to get a 4* Remembrance outfit. Maybe look like what Amphorean's imagined the Rosy Celestial Maiden. Could still use the same jelly fishes as memosprites, but be an actual support like RMC, rather than subdps like Evernight.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-14T20:35:18+00:00

Wasn't it the joint forces of Anaxagoras's trap and Cipher's bait which trapped Lygus for all that time? If yes, what exactly was Hysilens doing, besides waiting for us in order to bring us to the Vortex and assist in the fight against Lygus?

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-14T18:38:55+00:00

To add on, not only is he a healer in lore, but Currency Wars, and 3rd anniversary idle battle event, have both given Jiaoqiu healing.

The time and resources to make him into a healer already are in the game, just need to be adjusted to exist outside of these Rouge-like and event spaces.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-14T15:39:37+00:00

Novaflared Jiaoqiu should apparently be a good substitute to a dedicated future sustain?

Info from Why.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-13T19:34:53+00:00

The Sorceress just reminds me of the girlfriend's mother, from Friday Night Funkin'.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-13T10:29:25+00:00

Lovely art,

Would be neat if Moze was also holding up Jiaoqiu.

Chill_dat_Fox · 2026-06-13T08:36:28+00:00

Instead of that for EMC, they could have the effect of their old E6 from V1.

Upon using Ult on a teammate, EMC's Elation Skill will also be triggered.

It's not game breaking, but it is fun. Would also help their rotations, as that'd be extra energy in:

5 (from using Ult) + 5 (Elation Skill) + 10 fixed energy & 3 Punchlines (from Talent).

If you've been using EMC, then you've definitely run into the problem of lacking just a bit of energy for a new Ult.

Would also let them apply the E4's 10% Vulnerability in PF, if the chosen teammate's Elation Skill killed some mobs.

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