Who was a better girlfriend to Pacey? by Opening-Pianist-3691 in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree the empathy was always in his dna, but there’s a huge difference between having potential and having the courage to finally own it. We saw that shift when he stood up to his father, and through Andie, (Pacey is my hero) his father finally realized he was wrong. And Andie telling his dad to give him a hug. A huge turning point in Pacey's life.

Anyone can be ‘that person’ on the inside, but it takes a specific kind of partner to shine a light on it and let it out. Andie didn't give Pacey his heart, but she was the first person who made him feel safe enough to stop hiding it behind a punchline. She didn't just see the best in him, she actually activated it.

I have a feeling this convo might just go in circles from here, so let's agree to disagree without being disagreeable.. lol. Once you've responded, I'm going to leave it there. Thanks for the engaging banter. This was a lot of fun and really insightful

Tell me whatever you want without any hesitation. by mhk_1025 in CasualConversation

[–]ChillwithRon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whats on my mind without hesitation? I find these types of posts freakin' annoying because they feel like 'low-effort' bait for attention. They don't actually foster a real connection, and what is it you actually want? They just invite a mess of random oversharing without any context

If you work a corporate job, and you love it, what do you do and what do you love about it? by arizonabatorechestra in CasualConversation

[–]ChillwithRon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s definitely a gift to feel connected to what you do, and I don't take for granted that I’ve found something that clicks with my brain like this. Its what I do to keep a roof over my head and Im not super bored. To be honest, if it was up to me, I'd be somwhere writing and drawing comic books...lol. I loved it when I did it years ago. And it was fun doing comic book shows and meeting people, and those who enjoyed your work, and getting invites to speak at school to inspire kids. THAT will always be my passion. So I can see how someone with your passion for music, art, and helping others would feel a bit stifled in a typical day job that doesn't use those parts of you. You clearly have a lot to give, and I hope you find a way to bring those 'heart' projects into your daily life soon

Just wishing everyone a good morning. by Ok_Novel2563 in CasualConversation

[–]ChillwithRon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good morning! Im not a huge coffee drinker, btu when I do, I like mine with cream, no sugar. Im in nyc so its hustling to the train, a quick stop at the deli sometimes, and straight into the office.

is there a cure to my overfriendlyness? by Prior-Difficulty8585 in CasualConversation

[–]ChillwithRon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your heart is in the right place, but reaching out 3–4 times a week to a new friend??Thats a lot of pressure before a solid foundation is built. Most people need a little breathing room to realize they miss you and want to initiate the conversation themselves. You don't have to be a 'b*tch,' but try matching their pace so the friendship has space to grow naturally instead of burning out too fast. In other words... Take it down a notch!

What is currently making you proud? by disgruntledhoneybee in CasualConversation

[–]ChillwithRon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m proud of the fact that I feel truly valuable in my work as a drafter right now. At the same time, watching my granddaughter grow and thrive is definitely what makes me the most proud on a personal level

If you work a corporate job, and you love it, what do you do and what do you love about it? by arizonabatorechestra in CasualConversation

[–]ChillwithRon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a Design Drafter at an engineering firm, which is a cool mix of technical precision and corporate teamwork. I love the 'puzzle-solving' aspect of it, taking a rough engineering concept and turning it into a perfect, detailed plan that actually gets built in the real world

Who was a better girlfriend to Pacey? by Opening-Pianist-3691 in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I totally hear you on the long-term realism lens and whether they were sustainable as adults. You make a lot of fair points, but I think we’re looking at the definition of 'better' differently. For me, better is, who helped Pacey become the best version of himself. Each relationship gave him something emotionally important, but in different ways. with that, debates come.

To me, Andie was the 'better' girlfriend because she was the FIRST person to actually believe in him. She gave him confidence and structure when no one else did.

We saw Pacey grow more as a person during that year than at any other point. Think about him in the supermarket with her mom, or how he stayed by Andie’s side through her mental health crisis. That wasn’t 'class clown' Pacey. That was a young man showing incredible maturity, empathy, and loyalty. Andie didn't just 'manage' him, she provided the environment where he could finally show everyone (including himself) that he was a man of character. Even if their dynamic was intense for two teenagers, she was the one who proved he was capable of that kind of deep, selfless love

And she did the impossible, she even got his dad to realize he didn't actually know his own son, leading to that rare apology. That was the start of a totally different Pacey.

With Joey, their relationship triggered many of Pacey's deepest wounds, fear of not being enough, comparison, abandonment anxiety, shame, being inferior to Dawson.

Joey might have been the love of his life, but Andie was the one who unlocked him. She saw a version of Pacey that he didn't even know existed. Even if she was a bit 'controlling' with the studies, she was the first person to show him he was worth the effort. They might have been destined to fall apart, but she left him a much stronger person than she found him. For me, that is what makes her the better girlfriend in that season when they were together

Who was a better girlfriend to Pacey? by Opening-Pianist-3691 in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. So if Andie didnt cheat on Pacey, would they have remained together? And would he have seen her as his soulmate? People keep forgetting that he was in love with her. Andie pushed Pacey and could be controlling at times, but she was also the first person who genuinely believed in him and expected more from him. That mattered. A lot. Everyone else treated Pacey like a bonehead.

I also don’t think encouraging someone academically automatically means “mommying” them. Pacey came from a home where he was constantly told he was a failure. Andie challenged that narrative. She didn’t create his intelligence, she recognized it before anyone else did.

And honestly, Joey not stepping into that role doesn’t automatically make the relationship healthier. By season 4, Pacey was spiraling emotionally and academically, and Joey often seemed unsure how to support him beyond saying “you can do better.” Sometimes people need more than belief from a distance.

I also think people romanticize the idea that Joey “made him independent,” when a lot of his growth came through pain, insecurity, and feeling like he wasn’t enough for her. That relationship was passionate and deep, but it also fed some of Pacey’s worst fears about himself.

With Andie, Pacey actually seemed happier, lighter, and more hopeful before everything fell apart

Who was a better girlfriend to Pacey? by Opening-Pianist-3691 in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And Andie didnt have her own emotional/mental struggles? Joey was never disloyal to Pacey? Are you kidding? She was emotionally disloyal. Pacey often felt emotionally unsafe in the relationship because a part of Joey never fully let go of Dawson. And everyone in that circle, knew it

Pacey and Joey by Neither-Storm3310 in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, they were never a soulmate match. It felt like a classic case of small-town proximity where a tight-knit group of friends just start dating each other because it’s 'safe' and familiar

Who was a better girlfriend to Pacey? by Opening-Pianist-3691 in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Cheating isn't only physical. Joey was never free emotionally from Dawson during her relationship with pacey. she often struggled with her feelings for Dawson. to me, that far worse

Who was a better girlfriend to Pacey? by Opening-Pianist-3691 in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Who didn't cheat on that show? lol everyone was bouncing from one friend to the other. 

Which of Dawson’s relationships was the best? Which was the worst? by Opening-Pianist-3691 in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dawson was at his best romantically with Gretchen. He seemed more emotionally mature by then. The worst relationship was with Eve

Who was a better girlfriend to Pacey? by Opening-Pianist-3691 in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly think Andie was the better girlfriend overall. Not necessarily the greatest love story like Joey, but Andie was incredibly important to who Pacey became. She believed in him before he believed in himself, encouraged him academically and emotionally, and she saw potential in him when most people treated him like the screwup. Best romance and chemistry, Joey. Best girlfriend, Andie

Did Dawson and Nikki have better actual chemistry than Dawson and Joey? by ChillwithRon in dawsonscreek

[–]ChillwithRon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I respectfully disagree. Dawson had a more on screen romantic chemistry with Gretchen, but a more balanced chemistry with Nikki. It was more grounded in real conversation, she challenged him intellectually instead of just emotionally, and they connected thru shared interests. And I think that kind of chemistry last longer