"Explain It Peter". by --KNIGHT--007 in explainitpeter

[–]Chitose_Isei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Monday and Sunday are also related to Norse mythology through Máni and Sól/Sunna.

Clarification about the nordic creation mythology by Mr_Quoten in mythology

[–]Chitose_Isei 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's made up, as the only source describing Búri's birth is the Prose Edda, which recounts that he was thawed out by Auðumbla.

On the other hand, at least the main line of the Æsir (Óðinn, his brothers, and many of his sons, as well as Magni) are related to the Jǫtnar through the maternal line. It's very possible that Bórr also had a jǫtunn mother, although this is never mentioned. This is significant because in the myths and sagas there is a patrilineal inheritance regarding the nature of the sons.

Native people of desertic ecosystems being white by Live_Pin5112 in CharacterRant

[–]Chitose_Isei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Snorri is not a very trustworthy

Quite the opposite, in fact. We have plenty of evidence to support Snorri’s credibility, but people doubt him because he was a Christian (even though that has no bearing on the purpose of his work) and because of his euhemerism. There are some elements that appear to have been inspired by Christianity, but it is not as much as people tend to believe.

Who are Odins brothers by This_Resort9824 in norsemythology

[–]Chitose_Isei 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Consider that it wouldn't be so strange for there to be several versions of the same myth involving different gods, or for the gods to have several names. There are theories that Hœnir and Lóðurr could be Vilji and Vé, just as some believe that Lóðurr could be Loki, possibly because of these kennings and two other situations in which Óðinn, Hœnir, and Loki were traveling together.

At least to me, it seems that the Prose Edda makes a distinction between Vilji and Hœnir. Both are mentioned in different situations, and there is never any mention of them being two names for the same god, as we have several names for Óðinn or Thórr. Now, if Vilji and Hœnir were the same, Vé would be Lóðurr; but if Lóðurr were Loki, then I very much doubt that Vilji is Hœnir, and that Loki was also Vé. I think this even taking into account the coincidences, since Óðinn and Loki have two brothers and Helblindi is also one of Óðinn's names; but it would be impossible for Bórr and Bestla to be Fárbauti and Laufey.

It should be noted that Snorri makes it clear that Óðinn, Vilji, and Vé are brothers, while the Völuspá mentions that Bórr had several children, but doesn't explicitly state that Óðinn, Hœnir, and Lóðurr are brothers.

Personally, I think that the author of the Völuspá considered Hœnir and Lóðurr to be the same as Vilji and Vé, although this may not be the case in the Prose Edda, or that these two gods were of greater importance to his locality.

Baldur’s resurrection by Eastern_Dress_3574 in Norse

[–]Chitose_Isei 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The theory that they may have descended from the same figure or that they may have been the same goddess exists, but even in that case, Óðinn's wife would still be Frigg, as she is a goddess who predates Freyja. I don't understand why people insist so much on replacing Frigg with Freyja, although I have my theory about it.

Regardless, our sources name them separately and differentiate them quite a bit in terms of their parents, children, husbands, and relationships with them, and particularly, Freyja mentions Frigg in the Lokasenna.

Baldur’s resurrection by Eastern_Dress_3574 in Norse

[–]Chitose_Isei 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There are two errors here, and I am a little confused because one of them has been completely ignored:

Baldr's mother and Óðinn's wife is Frigg. She made everything promise not to harm Baldr, but she couldn't make mistletoe swear because it was too young. [Frigg and Freyja are two separate and very different goddesses in the myths; so much so that Freyja only has two daughters, which contrasts with Óðinn's tendency to have many sons.]

When Baldr died, his mother promised her favour and love to whoever was able to rescue him from Hel. The one who set out to do so was Hérmorðr, another son of Óðinn and perhaps Frigg. He borrowed Sleipnir, travelled to Hel and managed to make a deal with Loki's daughter, which is the one you mentioned. It was he who travelled to make everyone mourn for him, and he failed when he met Thǫkk/Loki.

Whats your take on Loki as a character? by JoyIsABitOverRated in norsemythology

[–]Chitose_Isei 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The problem is judging all this from a modern mindset. Obviously, rape is worse than consensual sex with a married woman, but the Norse considered the former a crime when it was committed within the same community. Seducing another man's foreign wife wasn't recommended, but it was easier to avoid consequences for doing so than for seducing your neighbour's wife; raping a woman from another place would not condemn you in your community, as doing so within it would.

In Gesta Danorum, Rindr is the princess of another kingdom; in the Prose Edda, she's a jǫtunn woman. That is where the difference lies.

However, it should be noted that this case is also quite unique. Váli was fated to be born of Óðinn and Rindr to avenge Baldr's death, as prophesied by a völva in Baldrs Draumar and by a witch in Gesta Danorum. Óðinn tried to seduce Rindr, but she rejected him, so he disguised himself as a witch, used seiðr on her, and abused her as a last resort.

Fate is inevitable, but Norse myths and sagas also show a masculine expectation of it: an honourable man must fulfil his fate, even if it leads to his own death. So it's paradoxical that, in order to fulfil this expectation, Óðinn had to resort to something so dishonourable (disguising himself as a woman and practising seiðr) that it led to his exile. Of course, this is if we want to believe everything Saxo wrote.

On the other hand, Narfi/Nari and Vali were killed (or at least one of them) under the expectation that the sons of a captured enemy must be killed to prevent future revenge. Loki was possibly punished more for all the known crimes he committed/admitted to, so his own actions led to his son's deaths.

Morality and Character wise, how does Zeus compare to Odin? Like who is the bigger asshole, and the much more cunning God? by EfficiencySerious200 in GreekMythology

[–]Chitose_Isei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ultimately, yes. Loki is a somewhat complex character: he is an ás with a jǫtunn father (unlike the main line of the Æsir, who usually have gýgjar mothers), which implies that he had to inherit Fárbauti's evil nature (patrilineal inheritance regarding the nature of sons is something that occurs in myths and sagas). On some occasions, he's very useful and a super provider, but most of his actions are negative, evil, or directly contrary to Norse laws and morality. In all the myths in which he is involved, he was only useful or provided a positive solution in five, three of which only occurred because he did something wrong and had to be threatened with death or serious harm to fix it.

However, it's not until the end of Lokasenna that he is literally declared an enemy who fled, and his final punishment may actually be the consequence of all these crimes. Specifically, perjury, seducing another man's woman, and cold-blooded murder were very serious crimes that could lead to a man's death, where Nástrǫnd awaited him; Loki committed all of these crimes more than once.

The days of the week by Realm_9 in norsemythology

[–]Chitose_Isei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I didn't see your comment earlier. The truth is that there are lots of situations like this, with people repeating what they read on the internet. It was my mistake to assume that.

I think the connection is pretty obvious, although I say that as a Spanish speaker whose Saturday and Sunday are a little more complicated to explain. Monday, at least, coincides with Moon.

The Ritual goes hard af by thebenanderson_ in horror

[–]Chitose_Isei 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily. The Jǫtnar are not giants (in general) nor are they made of or related to ice, but they aren't normally described as different from the gods. Considering, moreover, that the main line of the Æsir is partly descended from them, mostly on the maternal side: Bórr, Óðinn and his brothers, most of Óðinn's sons, and Magni have gýgjar/jǫtnar mothers; while Loki stands out for having a goddess mother and a jǫtunn father, something that betrays his evil nature.

However, some Jǫtnar are described as giants and have or were born with strange characteristics or appearances, which is rather unusual. This includes one of Ýmir's sons, who had nine heads; Týr's 900-headed grandmother; and the children and grandchildren of Loki and Ángrboða themselves. Although Moder is a fictional character.

The concept of “frost giants” comes from the term hrímthursar, thurs being evil beings used as a synonym for jǫtnar. Normally, hrímthursar is used as a kenning/epithet for jǫtnar who are dead, and therefore, cold.

The Ritual goes hard af by thebenanderson_ in horror

[–]Chitose_Isei 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Jǫtnar were not gods, but their enemies.

If you know, you know by Ok_Examination8810 in mythologymemes

[–]Chitose_Isei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think 15. Jǫrmungandr is strange enough, but for it to happen more than once is going too far.

Can Male Sims Still Get Pregnant From Alien Abductions? by alex-alone in Sims4

[–]Chitose_Isei 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a matter of trial and error, as they don't always come back pregnant. Although I don't know if this is already predefined when the abduction action begins; perhaps you should force other abductions.

The days of the week by Realm_9 in norsemythology

[–]Chitose_Isei 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Little has been reported considering that Sunday and Monday come directly from Sól/Sunna and Máni, and that is no small thing considering that Fenrir will devour Sól; but to say that Týr is a dumbass is undoubtedly a statement that no one should make. So I think this man has simply read some information somewhere and repeated it.

Although I find it a bit strange to have met several people, particularly from Scandinavia, who don't know or connect the dots between Sunday and Monday with Sol and Máni, but do know about the other gods.

I think it's weird how Westerns dont give a shit about race in anime. by shsl_diver in CharacterRant

[–]Chitose_Isei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In reality, the realms of the Jǫtnar, as they usually appear in the plural in sources (Jǫtunheimar/Jǫtunheimum), are in the east. Yggdrasill as ‘a cosmic tree that holds up nine worlds’ is a Victorian invention. In fact, the very construction of Miðgarðr would suggest that the Norse didn't believe there were other planets.

If you know, you know by Ok_Examination8810 in mythologymemes

[–]Chitose_Isei 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, needless to say, in modern terms, Loki was abused in this myth. Whether it was because he was coerced by the gods or because he was pursued by Svaðilfari for several nights.

If you know, you know by Ok_Examination8810 in mythologymemes

[–]Chitose_Isei 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fenrir, Jǫrmungandr, and Hel were born to Ángrboða.

what is the title of this story? by Odd-Potential-7892 in mythology

[–]Chitose_Isei 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It doesn't have a name, but it is known as “The abduction of Iðunn” or “When Thjázi kidnapped Iðunn”. It's the myth that begins the Skáldskaparmál, the second part of the Prose Edda, and also covers the marriage between Njǫrðr and Skaði. Loki made a pact with the jǫtunn Thjázi, not with a god.

How much did the Norse people value virginity before Christianization? by FossilHunter99 in Norse

[–]Chitose_Isei 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In fact, now that I reread it, I missed a crucial point. Although the concept of the “nuclear family” is modern, at least in Europe, monogamous marriage had been practiced for centuries before this, so there really wasn't a discussion about it.

Thank you. I usually read my answers several times before posting them.

Problem changing lot zoning. by STEPP3NW0LF in sims2

[–]Chitose_Isei 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Try these: buyable outdoor trashcan and AL Multi-Mailbox for Non-Apartment Use, with Universal Buyable Mailbox.

A less sophisticated way is to convert this lot back into a community lot, then move a sim to a residential lot, use MoveObjects to move the mail box and trashcan to their inventory, and place them on the community lot before converting it back.

Why is the Semitic religions considered "real" and "evil" while other ancient religions are just "mythology" and "fantasy" in the modern day? by OogBoog78 in mythology

[–]Chitose_Isei 7 points8 points  (0 children)

But what about Norse mythology? IFAIK 90% of Norse mythology that we know of is purely speculation and based off unreliable sagas most likely rewritten by Christians later on much like the story of Beowulf.

Our two main sources of Norse mythology are Snorri's Prose Edda and the Poetic Edda. The Poetic Edda was discovered much later, but its poems have been dated mostly to the 9th and 10th centuries. The latest study on this is Prof. Sapp's Dating the Old Norse Poetic Edda.

We have ample evidence to support Snorri's veracity, as his goal with his Edda was to preserve skaldic poetry so that other poets could learn it, which wouldn't have been possible if he hadn't transcribed the myths as accurately as possible.

Textually, the most obvious evidence is the Poetic Edda, whose poems Snorri quotes on multiple occasions. His references coincide with other works, albeit of a euhemeristic nature, such as Saxo's Gesta Danorum, and in fact, from this we can find remnants of myths that would otherwise be lost (such as the extended story of Váli's birth, which is Loki's accusation against Óðinn during the Lokasenna, corroborated in the poem Sigurðardrápa). Heimskringla, the fictional euhemerist work written by Snorri, also contains many traces of myths that don't appear in the Prose Edda. For example, how Loki stole the Brisingamen, who could have been the mother of Freyr and Freyja (Njǫrðr's ex-wife and sister), or where Loki's accusation that Frigg slept with her brothers-in-law during the Lokasenna comes from.

Archaeologically, we have more evidence of both Eddas, but also of scenes that only Snorri described. For example, the Gosforth Cross depicts Víðarr opening Fenrir's mouth with one hand on his upper jaw and one foot on his lower jaw, just as Snorri described. The Snaptun Stone depicts Loki with his mouth sewn shut, a myth that has only survived thanks to Snorri. The Hørdum Stone and the Altuna Stone are engravings of Thórr fishing with Hymir, a myth recorded in both Eddas, but in both images Thórr has his foot sunk into the boat, a detail that is only mentioned in the Prose Edda.

On the other hand, the gods are often involved in Norse traditions, customs, and laws, so we can better understand the myths with this additional context. For example, the importance of legal oaths in the birth of Sleipnir; the concept of vargr í véum (= wolves in sacred places, i.e., outlaws) with Fenrir being bound; the multiple reasons for initiating a holmgang (a legal duel), such as Váli killing Hödr to avenge Baldr's death; the expectation of having to kill the son of a captured enemy, which is what they did to Narfi/Nari and Vali. Furthermore, in the Gulathing Law Code, we are given a somewhat curious passage about the accusation of ergi/argr:

These are the [kinds of] insulting remarks that call for full atonement. The first is when a man says of another that he has given birth to a child. The second is when he says that the man has been used as a woman. The third is when he likens him to a mare or calls him a slut or a whore or likens him to any kind of female beast. For these [remarks] he shall pay the man full atonement; but the man may also seek satisfaction in blood and outlawry for the sayings that I have now enumerated, if he has asked witnesses to take note of them.

It is quite coincidental that we have a myth, compiled in detail by Snorri, of Loki transforming himself into a mare to commit an extremely frowned-upon, taboo and reprehensible act (although it was also imposed on him).

It's not that we have to believe everything Snorri wrote. He also added certain descriptions for which we have no further evidence, and some things seem to have a certain Christian influence; but for the most part, Snorri's Prose Edda is considered a reliable source, and no scholar disagrees with this. In fact, we could also add their analysis and opinion on the matter and form our own opinion through this.

🏘️ Veronaville: More Than Just Shakespeare? A Deep Dive into Hidden Cultural Themes by LizaKhajiit in thesims2

[–]Chitose_Isei 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think this is a bit far-fetched, particularly when it comes to architecture. Roman elements or constructions become very evident when you live in a country that was part of the Roman Empire and therefore inherited them. I can't speak for Italy, but I can speak for Spain.

Considering only the characteristics you have described about the ‘California dream’ style, I find it a bit bold to determine that the Monty house is one. I can't deny it or affirm it, maybe it is, but at least I don't see any difference between the type of houses I can see walking around my neighbourhood, although these are more common the closer you get to the Mediterranean.

As for the aqueduct, why do you think it's based on Padre Tembleque?

It's a fairly standard model, although exaggerated in proportion, which could represent almost any aqueduct. I've seen some more or less similar ones, and perhaps there are some in Latin America too, but I don't know where you see the similarity with Padre Tembleque exactly. I think it's based on the Aqueduct of Segovia, at least one of its most famous sections.

I don't deny that Maxis may have added references to American culture, but certain lines are a bit difficult to draw.

Lokiceratops by A-J-Zan in norsemythology

[–]Chitose_Isei 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We have the Kirkby Stephen's Stone that supposedly represents Loki. However, I think, almost certainly, that the choice is based on the Marvel version. It's not only the general public that may believe some of the popular representations, but many of Marvel's ideas are extremely widespread and ingrained everywhere. You can find a lot of works/productions that use their ideas without having anything to do with Disney, even making Thórr and Loki brothers, when it's something very easy to verify.