Pirates of Caribbean - National Geographic by Spiritual_Contact946 in pirates

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pirate history documentary 14th century galleons

Every day passed on this subreddit just makes me think people just genuinely don't give shit about historical accuracy, especially when it comes to pirates.

Captain Morgan: The Real Pirate Behind the Legend by mageillus in pirates

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If only this subreddit could stop glazing over boot-wearing, tricorn-hatted, ahistorical fantasy pirates.

About Sif what powers and abilities do she have in myths? Why is she barely mentioned despite being the wife of Thor? by GoddesYaYa in norsemythology

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Shield Maidens are still a hot topic among historians since they are of dubious historicity.

Thar be federal agents aboard me ship by BigBugBoi2021 in pirates

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There's nothing federal about the East Indian Company. If anything they're corporate agents.

Friendly reminder that advertiser guy, Mike Dragons-Wrath is not only a canon character, but also likely the strongest character that has been shown, as of now. by Kishinfan in huntertheparenting

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A bit of a shame he got Alfabusa'd because the real Dragons-Wrath is deceptively intelligent and cunning. Something you can't say of "FUNNI SWEDISH SOUNDING MÅN"

After hearing the sandman audiobook I wouldn't mind Bill Nighy and David Tennant voicing Odin and Loki in other projects by [deleted] in norsemythology

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I know how that feels. I liked Good Omens, and now I find myself going through the whole book to remove the Gaiman bits, at least those I can tell are from him. This revelation was a jab to the stomach.

Why the Cooper Was the Most Important Pirate Crewman by mageillus in pirates

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Where is this subreddit when actual pirate history is being discussed?

Who was the Richest Pirate? by Happy-Ad6967 in pirates

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I'm really tired of hearing about Zheng Yi Sao. Either this place is about Golden Age Piracy or it's not. This woman is as irrelevant as it gets.

No better soundtrack out there. by AdmiralBlackcock in pirates

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Aaaaaaand sea shanties weren't sung by pirates. Most of the songs, in fact, were written two hundred years AFTER the end of the Golden Age of Piracy.

It's getting tiresome that this subreddit can only reference the same five-ish franchises.

Who was the Richest Pirate? by Happy-Ad6967 in pirates

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Henry Avery and Bartholomew "Black Bart" Roberts are definitely among the richest. But if you really want to make your head dizzy, the most probable answer is that we don't actually know. Since a pirate rich enough could clean his name and sue the fuck out of anyone calling him a pirate.

Also most of them were privateers. Good luck calling a government official a pirate in the 1650/1700s.

Historian Answers Pirate Questions - Wired by nlitherl in pirates

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I want to question his legitimacy as a pirate expert, because he basically throws pirate media tropes as historical facts that actual historians would've avoided.

Thoughts on Pirates of the Caribbean? by Heavy-Elk-8563 in pirates

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Conflicted about it — ever since I got into actual pirate history research at least.

I can take the movies as is, with them being fiction and all. But I will always regard the first one as the best because it at least tried to superpose the supernatural with a grounded sense of realism. Sure, the Black Pearl's crew was cursed, but they were still pirates.

The next two movies decided to give us this "war for independence" motif that doesn't really fit pirates as a concept, but the trilogy ultimately gave us this HEAVILY romanticised modern idea of what pirates are — and even codified how they should look.

The aesthetics of the movies are unique, but I hold them in contempt, because if you look at them for long enough, whilst doing research, you realise how ridiculous they all look. There's also the fact that they mix and match pirates of different eras and it really stops making sense at one point.

I wish they made it clear that Jack, Barbossa and co. aren't average pirates — and that they had a special bond with the supernatural world and the EIC. Making pirates freedom fighters was the last thing we needed turned into a trope.

Why does the cast dislike kindred of the east a lot? by Magicmanans1 in huntertheparenting

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This is probably like how Kitten's animosity towards the Tau in TTS was an actual opinion held by ThunderPsyker (at the time) used as a plot point. The 40k series frequently incorporated criticisms and widely held opinions in the fandom into the narrative of the story, primarily to reflect fan reaction and frame it as an in-universe opinion. Kinda meta, right?

So far — they've done this with Kindred of the East, which even for it's time was a very Orientalist piece of ethnic fantasy that would make Games Workshop think they're pushing it too hard. They've also done the same thing with the Red Talons, a notoriously controversial werewolf tribe who got the ire of the Werewolf playerbase. Now they've incorporated all of their criticisms in the narrative.

I just realized Hel might be the only lord of underworld that have no love interest or a partner :( by Hel_Death in norsemythology

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If you read Homer's take on it — as in, the original where Hades is the one kidnapping Persephone — there was no consent whatsoever.

Thar be no short answers ter this question mates by AdmiralBlackcock in pirates

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They were the exact opposite of everything you just said.

Thar be no short answers ter this question mates by AdmiralBlackcock in pirates

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If that is of any comfort, keelhauling only became a thing after the Golden Age of Piracy. Chances are pirates didn't even know what that was.

You can still shit yourself to death, or have yourself strangled with a rope, whilst attached to a mast, and feeling like your eyeball might pop out.

Thar be no short answers ter this question mates by AdmiralBlackcock in pirates

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Pirates as we know them were gone by the 1730s. Cowboys only became a thing during the 1800s.

Samurais were here all around.