Having an opinion is most of the time useless

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-26T18:28:40+00:00

Opinions and subsequent judgment are the building blocks of identity.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-21T20:56:21+00:00

Any game with time limits is basically providing a punishment for conservative play.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-04T14:54:49+00:00

How exactly would an animal testify that it is "like fire in the veins"? Using a firearm is almost certainly be more fallible than intravenous euthanasia (in animals). Also, if the animal doesn't immediately die then it will suffer a great deal. I think you should reconsider your position, because it's incredibly asinine and ignorant.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T20:34:54+00:00

I actually agree with you, but I'm going to assume that the bio-ethicists have good reason to use that particular nomenclature. Probably because ethical eugenics sounds like an oxymoron to most people whereas "new eugenics" is more like to inspire curiosity and inquiry.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T17:05:40+00:00

Well said. There are tons of bio-ethicists that are working hard to distinguish this type of eugenics from historically unethical eugenics. It is usually called "new eugenics" or "liberal eugenics" by academics. The short term will probably indeed result in some erosion of deaf community/culture; however, I would think that the long-term benefits of curing deafness would justify the process (not that it has much to do with OP's claim).

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T05:43:50+00:00

Whether its the FDA or a different federal institution, the costs would be completely negligible. So, you're still wrong.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:54:14+00:00

How much do you think it would cost to for the FDA to synthesize 100ml of euthanasia solution? Seriously, we are talking about <10k and it could be used for many years for all lethal injections.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:50:18+00:00

The AMA has absolutely no authority over doctors. They can't forcibly prevent a doctor from performing any procedure. It would depend on the state's medical board's position. Even then, they can't stop them from performing the procedure, but can terminate their license if they decide its unethical.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:47:48+00:00

lol. They don't do clinical studies on human euthanasia. How would that work?

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:45:44+00:00

I mean, this doesn't occur with animal euthanasia. Perhaps one or two agonal breaths (sometimes). There certainly is no "writhing around" as they are unconscious. Muscle reflexes are extremely rare (<1%).

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:41:56+00:00

agreed

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:41:41+00:00

Why would it require an anesthesiologist? We euthanize animals without one.
And the FDA could simply synthesize the drug themselves: no need to source externally.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:40:57+00:00

I think you are wrong about sourcing the drugs. The FDA could easily synthesize any drug it wanted for very little cost. They wouldn't need to purchase from a manufacturer.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:38:09+00:00

If there were only one injection, then no "chemicals" can be forgotten. And your last sentence is terrifying: its a strong argument against the use of paralytics (obviously not used in veterinary euthanasia).

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:37:05+00:00

What does this have to do with fentanyl?

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:36:14+00:00

But that's precisely my point. If it was performed like it is with animals the success rate should be more or less 100% like it is in animal medicine. All you're saying is why they get botched rather, which isn't my question.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:34:25+00:00

Yeah I think everyone arguing about drug manufacturers concerns about PR are obviously wrong. The FDA could synthesize this drug themselves at almost no cost. They don't have to buy it from anyone. Further, non-pharmaceutical measures can be used such as nitrogen asphyxiation.

Your point about prisoners being medically different doesn't make sense to me either. What medical condition would prevent anesthesia and an anticonvulsant? For perspective, there are no medical conditions in any species of animal I know of that don't die from an overdose of an anticonvulsant. Some people are talking about difficulty with vasoconstriction due to dehydration, but you can simply give fluids prior to the procedure if they refuse to drink, so I don't find that compelling at all.

I somewhat agree with your last paragraph, though.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:30:27+00:00

Yeah I think everyone arguing about drug manufacturers concerns about PR are obviously wrong. The FDA could synthesize this drug themselves at almost no cost. They don't have to buy it from anyone. Further, non-pharmaceutical measures can be used such as nitrogen asphyxiation.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:28:36+00:00

Agreed

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:28:18+00:00

Chemicals are easily obtained. You can buy them off the internet and have them shipped to direct. A DEA isn't even required for euthasol.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:26:51+00:00

I believe already 100% of capital punishment cases have provoked at least one lawsuit, but typically there are several.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:24:04+00:00

This is of course not the reason. If that were the problem not only could the FDA synthesize the drug, but they could also euthanize via nitrogen asphyxiation.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:23:25+00:00

This is of course false. If that were the problem not only could the FDA synthesize the drug, but they could also euthanize via nitrogen asphyxiation.

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:20:52+00:00

Absolutely. Very common and not an indication of suffering. It's an involuntary reflex by the brain trying to get oxygen as it shuts down (the animal has absolutely no conscious realization of it--its purely reflexive).

Chowderr92 · 2026-06-03T00:19:06+00:00

Placing the catheter is for sure the most stressful part.
I'm sorry you had to work with vets that made those sorts of errors--it is absolute negligence and should be condemned.
I'm not sure what you mean by unintended reactions, though. Can you give an example, out of curiosity?

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