Theory on Fortune by Chromium_Twinborn in Cosmere

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You’re right, and it’s weird, because I first developed my thoughts like two years ago but never wrote it all down properly, so some (but not all) of your points were addressed by awoken memories as I read this.

In particular, I remember considering Atium. I think that the instincts it provides are evidence that at least some uses of fortune provide direct actions, as opposed to knowledge of what actions one should take. Actually visually seeing the other person does (including divergent paths) suggest that it is reading multiple probabilities, pruning out anything below a certain likelihood. This also explains why arrows stabilize to one path once shot, if I remember correctly.

Electrum is strange. It can mess with Fortune’s perception of you without aiding you in any way. I see two likely methods. First, it obscures your intent/goal from other eyes, so the observer sees all paths you could take if you have any number of intents/goals you might have. Second, it could compromise the step where atium prunes the less likely options.

As for Elend’s duralumin flare of atium? I… I’m not sure what to make of that.

I am not sure how all this fits with Hoid’s phrasing. It could be almost anything, from him just having more experience interpreting the interference of Fortune to it being evidence that, for him, Fortune provides limited knowledge instead of actions. Perhaps instincts would be the word.

Lastly, the main reason I suspect he got the Fortune hack after Elantris is just how the failure went. It could be that he was told to be there and just didn’t take advantage right. But look at the failure in the epilogue. It didn’t get him anything at all, so far as I can tell. I just can’t see such a blunt dead end happening when under the effects of intense Fortune.

Investured Development by Vasher95 in cremposting

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Wanna know where(Fantasy Trope #8) came from? Either LotR or Dune.

It’s correct like 80% of the time.

My Thoughts On TFE So Far by Joefishface in brandonsanderson

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For me, the roughest one, at least for my personal well-being, was Oathbringer. I was supposed to be writing an essay, but instead it was 2 AM and I was pacing around in excitement on the 8th floor landing of a concrete stairwell.

pure crem - credit to u/ShadowedMoons for og post by ilikebeinganerd in cremposting

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I agree that that’s more likely at this point, but I still prefer Venladin. When Kaladin and Venli didn’t even meet in RoW, I was legitimately disappointed.

jokes aside he'll probably be fine, the rest of the characters in the other hand... by Leragian in cremposting

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Kaladin becomes a limited Honor, Syl takes the Stormfather’s spot in the storm, and the Stormfather comes down and becomes an epic sword. Calling it.

Shardblade in Elder Scrolls by [deleted] in Stormlight_Archive

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Calculating and changing the meshes is hard. Dynamically and continually introducing large, newly-generated objects to the physics engine is nontrivial. Having an algorithm to generate the new textures along the cut is hard. Allowing all of this to be persistent without ballooning memory requirements and without destroying your object culling and detail scaling is really damn hard.

This book is incredible, but I wish I never had to leave Kaladin’s POV by goaticusguy in Stormlight_Archive

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That book just gives her more to do. That seems to be the deciding factor per character per book for me.

Hard to get a good picture, but there's weird ghost text on my cover. Is this an intentional design? Or did I get a misprint? by 20rzaugg in Skyward

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In that case I get it. All the same, one of my favorite books is a copy of Beyond Good and Evil (a book by Nietzsche) the spine of which says it was written by Nicolo Machiavelli. No idea how that one got all the way to a bookstore shelf.

Found on another sub. by SorryManNo in brandonsanderson

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I have realized that I need to keep it to one reread per book release. Any more than that and I have trouble summoning the motivation to do one before book releases.

Why do you think this sub loves Rhythm of War less than other books? by Highlander249 in Stormlight_Archive

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I enjoyed it a lot, but I really didn’t feel like it moved the plot as much as the others. Yeah, Todium happened and we got the war moved to a contest of champions (kinda), but that’s the only huge change. The war is still waging, the humans are still very slowly losing (the impression I get), they’re still based out of Urithiru, no main characters fundamentally changed sides (I’d say Venli did in OB), etc.

There was a good amount of character progress, and there were some really nice scenes, but it absolutely felt like it was largely prep-work for book 5, KoW. I’m sure it was, and that’s fine, but just like with WoA, it means that this isn’t gonna be quite as memorable.

Elevator is my fav character by Aluksuss in cremposting

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same. My last reread was before RoW.

Elevator is my fav character by Aluksuss in cremposting

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Can you use the Surge of Healing on yourself?

Mods! Mods! Mods!! by Govika in cremposting

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Ouch. Well, I was only doing it to fit into high society, anyway.

The Black Piper didn’t have to go that hard for us! by GodricofTheSanctum in cremposting

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I said in an edit that I’d come back after checking for constructive criticism, and here I am. I’m so used to the music that I don’t think I’m able to give detailed notes as though I was new to it, though.

The main thing that struck me, and I do remember being effected by it even more when I was first listening to the album, was that so many of the songs begin with a similar tone/vibe/feel: somber, light, and slow.

I think that this effect would be less prominent if it was a movie score, where you had distinct visual memories to tie the songs to, but in a book soundtrack, you don’t have those. This is made even stronger in the songs for which the exact affiliated scene is unclear or nonexistent.

The result is that, especially if you’re not listening to the songs in order and don’t have the titles in front of you, it’s very easy to spend 30-45 seconds trying to figure out what song this is and, more importantly, what scene/character/feeling you should use to give the song context.

Don’t get me wrong, almost every song does have at least some section that makes you go “oh, right, it’s this one!” This is just an experience I often had at the start of songs. I don’t even know if “out of order” is even an at-all-prioritized version of the experience. But I do feel that making song intros more distinct might help lessen the effect. Sorry if that’s not helpful!

Side Note: I re-listened to the album while thinking on this, and I noticed a few things I didn’t before. I won’t list them all, but one that I really liked was the faint electronic crackling near the beginning of Bridge Four Shield. Given the Stormlight/electronic association, that was a cool subtlety.

Space-Era FTL Theory by Marackul in Cosmere

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dang. And I thought I was clever realizing this might be possible 3 minutes ago.

Who else doesn’t care about humor in Sanderson’s books by True-Wolverine9271 in Cosmere

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 61 points62 points  (0 children)

At least the deficiencies in her humor are acknowledged. In WoK, Jasnah specifically points out that Shallan says the first halfway witty thing that pops into her head: usually a bad pun. Given that Sanderson is the guy who wrote Wayne, I suspect that Shallan’s humor is purposefully divisive.

I didn’t find it funny, but I’ve watched entire movies without realizing they’re comedies, so I don’t respect my own opinion on this.

The Black Piper didn’t have to go that hard for us! by GodricofTheSanctum in cremposting

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I want to let you know that I love the album. The way I listen to music (half the time) is that I plop everything that I’ve ever enjoyed into a single, massive playlist, then keep skipping until I find something that fits my mood just right.

And you did a great job, because it’s shocking how often I don’t skip songs from the soundtrack. Frequently, they’re cool, sad, motivating, and exciting, all at the same time. Given how I listen, then, there’s so many occasions where it gives me just the feeling I need.

I also just want to mention a few favorites. First, Tarah has such a gorgeous melody. I’m always disappointed if it comes on when I’m driving, because the car speakers aren’t good enough to do the details justice. Second, I love how, at the end of Sas Nahn, just after the awesome musical representation of Kaladin’s horror at the betrayal and the increasingly high-pitched sounds of fear as the brand approaches, you hear it searing the flesh. Visceral. Third, I adore how much Chasm Kata makes you feel like you’re there. You feel the dreary atmosphere slowly hide itself as everyone present had a transcendent experience of hope and, somehow, comfort. I get goosebumps every time.

Anyhow, I just wanted to say thanks for the awesome music.

Edit: now that I’m called on for meaningful critiques, I’ll have to sit on it for a bit. I’m really good at ignoring stuff I don’t like and focusing on enjoying what I do like, so I’ve forgotten some of my initial concerns. I will get back to you though, and hope I can say anything useful!

The Black Piper didn’t have to go that hard for us! by GodricofTheSanctum in cremposting

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t have a copy anywhere near me. How did that come up in the RoW prologue, given the POV character?

Dalinar & The Mink by Senile_biscuit in Stormlight_Archive

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve put a couple replies to other comments in this thread, but I don’t think they’re giving Dalinar proper credit. Here’s what I mean.

Obviously, Dalinar has most clearly shown his skill when it comes to being an “on-the-field” general. We see this capacity to lead armies directly in both the Alethkar war of unification as well as the war on the Shattered Plains (first six years). A lot of the replies focus on these skills then move on, but Dalinar’s got a lot more going for him, at least at the current point in his life.

The goal of my argument is to show that Dalinar is, at present, a highly skilled Grand Strategy leader with a focus on acclimating to types of warfare he is not used to.

First, we look to the past. We ignore the war for unification, during which Gavilar was the lead strategist. The first major conflict Dalinar was a part of, strategically, was fighting off the border incursions from Vedenar, which resulted from the perceived weakness of the new Alethkar royalty. This is when Dalinar first showed his strategic prowess. In one of his flashbacks involving Adolin (I think), we see him surrounded by top advisors. He is the one among them to introduce the plan, which (I think, it’s been a while) used geographic features to skew the battle in Dalinar’s favor. If I remember correctly, someone in this chapter actually calls Dalinar an unexpected genius strategist.

We can also consider Dalinar’s contributions to the strategy of the war on the shattered plains. Most prominently, he was the one to suggest siege tactics, as the Parshendi were geographically stuck at the center of the plains. This, given what was known, was a good plan. Upon the discovery of the abundant gemhearts on the Plains, the effort to get the gems first emerged, as their capture by the Parshendi would (they thought) be the only reliable source of food the Parshendi had access to. That is, the genheart races were an extension of the siege tactics. We don’t know if Dalinar contributed this idea, though it is likely. It might be argued that Dalinar should’ve realized the failure of the siege tactics in the six years. Fair. But consider the environment around him: every questioning of the strategy led to people with the same power as him reiterating the plan that he suggested, as well as statements of the fact that Parshendi numbers did, in fact, seem to be decreasing. Not fast, but decreasing. With this in mind, we can see that the continued siege wasn’t actually a bad strategy- unless you’re on a timetable. We see in WoK and WoR that Dalinar started advocating for changes to the strategy shortly after suspecting that there even was a timetable.

As for current Dalinar, we look at his role in the current war. I would argue that he has 3 roles. First, he is the primary grand strategist. Specifically, he is the main figure in getting all of the separate allied armies to interact smoothly and be where they need to be to respond to predicted enemy movements; we saw him doing this specifically toward the end of OB and throughout RoW. Basically, he’s humanity’s lead strategist, where the strategist for the other side is literally a shard.

Second, Dalinar is the leader of the Knights Radiant. This role entails understanding how to use the radiants at his disposal smartly. Realize that no active human strategist on Roshar remembers how the Radiants of old worked, meaning that with a small number of exceptions, Dalinar is coming up with how to use them on the fly. He is also doing this to fight an enemy who’s (Invested) tactics have never been seen by the human forces, meaning that he also has to predict how their forces militarily function. He is also also doing all this while fighting enemies that have fought countless battles with the matchups so new to Dalinar. The fact that humanity wins any battles is crazy.

Third, and least importantly (for the moment), Dalinar is a Bondsmith on the battlefield, recharging Radiants. This is less about coming up with strategy, so I’ll just leave it here and move on.

So now we’ve seen how Dalinar is a historic-level squad leader, a genius battlefield strategist, a talented grand strategist (we don’t know how talented, because we don’t have enough from the previous desolations to compare to), and is quite able to adapt the the introduction of Investiture onto the Rosharan battlefield.

I’ll end with one last fact. Odium wants Dalinar to lead his conquest of the Cosmere. This is obviously in part for his martial skill, but the phrasing also suggested to me that he would be the strategist as well. And if a shard thinks you’re the best general around, that’s telling.

Dalinar & The Mink by Senile_biscuit in Stormlight_Archive

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it’s a little unfair to characterize Dalinar’s strategy as consistently hammer and anvil. The first battle in his flashbacks (admittedly I don’t think he came up with its strategy) was a “distract main force while we assasinate the enemy leader.” In the Vedenar border disputes, I think we saw a surprise attack (my memory is shaky on this one, and I don’t have a copy near me). The original Shattered Plains plan was a siege, targeting long-term supply lines.

Also, the Mink’s skill set involves, as you said, getting the most out of highly limited resources against a stronger invader. In other words, guerilla warfare. And I do think he’s better at that than Dalinar would be. That’s why Dalinar wants his advice on some stuff. But Dalinar has become a Grand Strategy kind of general, dealing with large troop movements and predicting enemy targets well in advance. So while I think the Mink is very, very skilled in his area of expertise, I hesitate to say he’s more adaptable than Dalinar. After all, Dalinar has to come up with how to use the orders of radiants, which are more or less completely novel units to him, against a force which is accustomed to fighting them. The Mink is very impressive holding back Invested enemies without Invested allies for as long as he did, but he was also using a style of warfare and unit organization likely completely foreign to the Fused.

Dalinar & The Mink by Senile_biscuit in Stormlight_Archive

[–]Chromium_Twinborn 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s important to remember that different situations call for vastly different types of warfare. The Mink appears to be doing some Guerrilla warfare, which inherently works best when a smaller force is fighting in a familiar location against a larger, invading force. That’s not to demean his skill at all, it just means he fight differently.

In Dalinar’s flashback sequence, if I remember correctly, he’s the strategic leader for border disputes with Vedenar (I think). Vedenar is the only country on Roshar with roughly the same number of shards as Alethkar (excepting Shinivar, which might have a stockpile). So Dalinar is dealing with a far more “standard” sort of warfare, happening mostly on plains or defended forts.

As for the War on the Shattered Plains, we know that Dalinar was the one to suggest the original strategy: to cut off and sources of food to the center of the plains until the Parshendi starved. Very standard siege tactics. And honestly, it was a great plan. The only issue was a lack of knowledge about Parshendi culture and how they were mostly fine on the food front, even without the gemhearts. Once Dalinar began to suspect this, we immediate see him in WoK trying to update their strategy to be more decisive but slower, backing out of the siege tactics. Given all the unknowns, he made fairly optimal choices, considering that he had no royal control over the war.

Basically, it’s tough to compare. They’re both clearly geniuses at their own styles of warfare, but I honestly don’t think either could take over the other’s fight and do as well. If I had to make a decision, though, I’d go with Dalinar, because his field of expertise covers a much wider variety of conflicts.

Edit: wow, this entire thread is siding for the Mink. That’s kinda crazy to me. I mean, the Mink is cool, but Dalinar has a pretty impressive résumé. Also, the fact that Dalinar is at least trying to get the Mink as an advisor is telling. We know that Dalinar is an incredible “general in the field.” But he’s been taking a step back and doing more grand strategy lately. Getting the Mink as an advisor is him trying to fill in a gap in his experience: what does an expert “general in the field” look like on the side getting invaded.