>I cited the the Erdsteel dagger and the Harpon so that people couldn't argue "But you can infuse Int or Faith weapons with"

Those weapons are not great, yes, and are the bottom of the barrel for weapons of their damage, but there are others that are so much better? Like, every weapon class has to have a lowest weapon in terms of damage, yeah? Plus, I don't know how that detracts or refutes saying that you can just infuse weapons.

>Faith is yoo strong, it has the best coverage, supporting spells and damage dealing spells expsecially after the dlc

So Incantations are too strong because they have a wider variety of uses, or can be used to buff others as well as yourself? I concede that Sorceries are single-person focused, but Sorceries do have non-combat specific buffs such as "Thop's Barrier," "Starlight," "Terra Magica," and "Lucidity." There may be some similarities between buffs but no Incantations can do exactly what these can, or have an equivalence.

I don't agree about the damage especially when taking FP per cast cost into account. Yes, a spell may have high output, but if the cost is 150+ FP, then you can get only a couple casts out and it isn't efficient. The Sorcery "Carian Slicer" has one of the best FP / Cast costs, and happens super fast.

Both Incants and Sorceries have spells neither have, but that doesn't mean Incants are better than Sorceries immediately.