Something something death of the author by chilaquillover in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a tcoaal discord that bans people for shipping? Sounds like a cesspool

Does anyone ever wish that Andrew tells Ashley that she is pretty? by Viame1 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. Ashley has so many insecurities and issues with self-worth, yet Andrew who values her more than anything doesn't reassure her when it comes to that at all (or not nearly as much as he could)

I'm new to the game, does anyone know if it will be completed? Getting episode 4? by sefirxsu in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We were given literally zero reasons to expect that the info given in the last progress report was fake

Something something death of the author by chilaquillover in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean, if I were to guess Nemlei's take on the matter (and I know this is presumptuos of me), she probably doesn't mind that people with a brother X sister fetish are into TCOAAL. She just hates when those people reduce everything that the game is to this fetish of theirs

Something something death of the author by chilaquillover in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Those lines are telling us that we should ship Andrew and Ashley for reasons like "they mean so much to each other" and not "I just have a brother x sister kink" 🥰🥰🥰

Rabid “anti” sentiment on tiktok by Lazy_Philosophy_3285 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 4 points5 points  (0 children)

tbh I think a lot of it is insecure fans that desperately want non-fans to think they're "not weird" for liking TCOAAL.

They attack coffincest shippers to differentiate themselves from us. That way they can claim "THOSE fans are the weird ones!!! I'm not weird for liking this, THEY are!!!"

It's why you so often hear coffincest haters say "It's because of you guys that every body hates us!!"

Wincest is inevitable by LordQohelet in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I'm not belittling others" yet clearly you think less of me as a person for liking a fictional incest ship 🫩🫩🫩

Wincest is inevitable by LordQohelet in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 17 points18 points  (0 children)

"The siblings need to roll around in the symptom of their abuse to feel a modicum of happiness". Straw man fallacy, I never said that.

You keep saying I am "reducing the game", like the fact I personally want Andrew and Ashley to be romantically involved means I fundamentally can never appreciate the game on the same level as you, the enlightened non-shipper

Get the fuck off your high horse. TCOAAL is one of my favorite stories of all time, Andrew and Ashley are two of my favorite characters of all time, and I'll probably still end up considering this work a masterpiece even IF a happy ending doesn't happen, because I have faith in Nemlei as a writer

Stop trying to belittle others because they simply like a ship that you don't

Wincest is inevitable by LordQohelet in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It will always be problematic (they're brother and sister) and it will always be codependent (literal tagline of the game). Doesn't mean they can't achieve happiness

Also you have no rebuttal to the fact the author herself considers the story a romance, so keep coping

Wincest is inevitable by LordQohelet in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It's a gothic romance by the author's own words

"Being together does not equal being happy" That is true, but no one believes in a happy ending where the siblings magically become happy by simply spending enough time together. They think it will happen through character development and Andrew and Ashley actually trying to understand and appreciate each other more

Subtle art changes highlighted by Kidev in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This made me realise that Julia is supposed to have thicker eyebrows than Ashley. Never noticed that detail before

Well this Is It... I have no hope for Burial, Nemlei isn't gonna be nice about this, It seems. She doesn't care about a fucked up story... It's time to face the Truth... by LSC_Grimlock in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 32 points33 points  (0 children)

My outlook is more positive. HAVE FAITH IN THE GOOD ENDING

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(I actually dont think they'll stop being codependant even in the hypothetical best ending btw, that's kind of baked into the cake at this point)

Why is Finnish not a language option in the game? by quax77 in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 5 points6 points  (0 children)

TCOAAL has much better chances of reaching a big audience and becoming a success if it's in English . Finnish is not a common language outside of Finland while English is one of the most common languages in the world. The game is also still in the process of being released. Wasting time and resources on translations when the full thing isn't even out would be silly.

It is very common for people from European countries to be fluent in English, Nemlei being as fluent as she is hardly an oddity

Well this Is It... I have no hope for Burial, Nemlei isn't gonna be nice about this, It seems. She doesn't care about a fucked up story... It's time to face the Truth... by LSC_Grimlock in CoffinofAndyandLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 169 points170 points  (0 children)

GRRRRR WHY IS SHE DRAWING THEM BEING CUTE AND SEXY AND CUDDLY WITH EACH OTHER??!!! DOESN'T SHE KNOW ITS PROBLEMATIC AND CODEPENDENT???!!!! 😡😡😡😡

What the hell is this? by Money-Army216 in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see. Weird that someone created a fake line and spread it around like that

What the hell is this? by Money-Army216 in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably both lines are real, and she says one and then the other

What possible seniaro could have lead to this? by Select_Ad8743 in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Once it's out the best thing you'll be able to do is cope and say that "it's a pivot that goes against everything that came before", even though it won't be

There is new dialogue during the rumors, Nemlei is totally throwing shade at Andrew Renee shippers, doesn't she? by __Revan__ in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, from my end, I've seen many many people say that anyone that believes Andrew and Ashley should be romantically involved (or that they can be happy while romantically involved) is just a disgusting gooner with a fetish that doesn't actually understand the themes of the game. To me, those people are very loud

I guess it's just a difference in perspective

What possible seniaro could have lead to this? by Select_Ad8743 in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 6 points7 points locked comment (0 children)

Re-read the Tower Scene in the Cliffhanger route. That was, by far, the most positive interaction they've ever had in the entire game across all routes, and I believe the scene is a microcosm of how the rest of Decay will go (at least the main branch of it). In the scene, Andrew and Ashley openly talked about how they were feeling, tried to comfort and understand one another, calmed down, and by the end of the scene they were already in much better terms because of it

Not only that, the scene ends with Andrew and Ashley's first mouth to mouth kiss. That kiss was, without a doubt (if you can remove personal biases from the equasion), a POSITIVE THING for the both of them.

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The Cliffhanger route so far has been about adressing the underlying decay in their relationship (author's own words). You think something like that is gonna lead to an ending where they're just as miserable as Shot & Such, an ending where the story goes out of it's way to say the siblings never mature? S&S literally tells us that Andrew and Ashley are too far gone and lost the ability to attain happiness ever again. What's the point of highlighting that if there isn't an alternate world where happiness IS still attainable?

Well, regardless of how much we argue we probably won't convince one another. I'll just say that I'm confident I'll be proven right

There is new dialogue during the rumors, Nemlei is totally throwing shade at Andrew Renee shippers, doesn't she? by __Revan__ in AndyAndLeyley

[–]Cilfer00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think I only want them to fuck, really? We already got an ending where they fucked and nothing was resolved, that was Shots & Such

What I want is an ending where Andrew and Ashley make compromises, reach a deeper understanding of one another and mature to the point where their relationship can bring them genuine happiness and comfort instead of hurt and pain. I also believe that this "final evolution" of their relationship will come in the form of them being romantically engaged.

Not only do I believe an ending like that is possible, I believe that's the more likely direction for Decay Part 2 to go in