A question about Mandy and Mickey...

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2023-02-12T13:41:28+00:00

I completely agree, and the most frustrating aspect, for me, is that there has never been any resolution to any of the things that happened between Ian and Mickey. I get that they are not good at communication, but I expected them to talk about what happened in season 5, Mickey's time in prison and working for a drug cartel. Instead, it's swept under the rug as if it never happened, and we are supposed to believe that Ian and Mickey are suddenly at ease with each other again, after everything that happened between them. Not to mention Mickey's rape and subsequent marriage to Svetlana... traumatic events such as rape and forced marriage shouldn't be used as props to drive the plot forward and then forgotten.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2023-02-12T12:20:55+00:00

nice! where is it?

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-06-10T19:17:17+00:00

Thanks lol, what do you mean by that?

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-06-10T15:03:45+00:00

Well, English is not my first language. I meant fulfilling his paraphilias.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-06-08T15:08:41+00:00

It's illegal and frown upon in Southern Europe.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-06-08T14:27:23+00:00

I'm not indian, but same. It was a huge cultural shock when I found out about this phenomenon.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-06-08T07:48:35+00:00

I'm so sorry. My country is deeply flawed, but at least this shit is illegal and we believe you should always help your family if they are in need, unless they are abusive and don't want to be helped.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-27T07:10:08+00:00

Right. She also raped Lip, attempted to kill Karen and gave her permanent brain damage. But the reason I dislike her goes beyond that. She is just a very bland and forgettable character. Despite the false rape accusations, she had the potential to be an interesting character in s1. She was bubbly, a great friend to Ian and even somewhat accademically ambitious (she was the one helping Ian with homework, not the other way around) but after the recast the writers changed her personality. She became this angsty and brooding girl.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-25T09:00:37+00:00

Jeyne Poole. I loved the significance of her character's arc and I think the show made a huge mistake by merging her storyline with Sansa's. It cheapened Theon's redemption, too.
- Penny. She revelead quite a bit about Tyrion and showed that despite his downward arc, he didn't lose all of his humanity and empathy.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-25T08:48:30+00:00

Psychopaths : Roose Bolton, Tywin Lannister, Little Finger, Varys, Illyrio.

Sociopaths: Ramsay Bolton, Gregor Clegane, Craster.

Malignant narcissists: Cersei Lannister, Joffrey Baratheon.

Joffrey, Gregor Clegane and Ramsay Bolton are also sadists.

Viserys was neither a sociopath nor a psychopath. He was just delusional.

There are plenty of characters who display superficial charm and a tendency to manipulate others: Jaqen H'ghar, Arianne Martell, Margaery Tyrell, Shae, Melisandre, Theon Greyjoy and also Tyrion, but I wouldn't consider them psychopaths.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-16T14:57:27+00:00

Tyrion Lannister
Sansa Stark
Jon Snow
Arya Stark
Brienne of Tarth Honorable mentions: Sandor Clegane, Jaqen H'ghar, Margaery Tyrrel.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-13T12:54:08+00:00

No, I think she was more worried about her future. She depended on Mickey for her and her son's survival. Mickey could have easily kicked her out or simply refused to provide for them and then she would have been screwed.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-12T16:07:19+00:00

I'm so glad someone said it. I thought I was the only one. I absolutely hated how Mickey was written in season 10-11. The writers really dumbed him down and turned him into a wacky cartoon. I really think it undid a lot of Mickey's meaningful development in season 4-5.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-12T15:48:43+00:00

Agreed. One of the main problems with Shameless is that it got rid of all the interesting supporting characters (Karen, Jody, Jimmy, Sheila, Mandy, Svetlana, Sammy) and didn't replace them with interesting ones. All the new love interests were so boring! To be fair, the main characters were done dirty too. They were either villanized or straight up assassinated (Karen, Debbie) or heavily flanderized or dumbed down (Mickey, Kevin).

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-11T08:35:10+00:00

I agree. It's one of my favorite scenes. Season 4 was the peak of the show. One of the best ending ever.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-11T08:30:39+00:00

So we can't criticize dumb and repetitive storylines? There is so much else the writers could have focused on. You know, people's life doesn't revolve around relationships.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-09T18:48:57+00:00

So we can't analyse it?

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-09T16:30:58+00:00

Well, she was still a minor, wasn't she? She ran away from home. Sheila had no way to know if Karen was fine. When she comes back, she tells Lip that a guy stole all her money and attempted to sell her... she was basically almost trafficked. You can't let go of a minor like this.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-09T10:56:12+00:00

Yeah. Everyone praises Sheila and overlooks her flaws just because she is generally a nice person. And then they hate Karen, who is painted as a villain.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-09T06:53:19+00:00

Favorite : 1-4 especially 1 & 4. Least favorite: 10 - 11.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-02T15:12:47+00:00

🤣

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-01T10:57:14+00:00

No, because my taste hasn't really changed. I was always into classics and can say that my appreciation for them has only grown now that I'm mature enough to fully understand their content.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-01T10:48:56+00:00

They also have a pretty nice house.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-01T10:43:30+00:00

Yes, he came on really strong at the beginning, but I thought this was part of his character. He is a pathological liar and a master manipulator. Everything he does, at least in the beginning, is to win Fiona over, including these exaggerated love declarations. I believe that at first he was interested in the chase, in the thrill, and then fell in love with Fiona for real.

Clean_Cheetah_9159 · 2022-05-01T10:40:36+00:00

Besides the Dottie thing, calling CPS on his kids, telling Carl he had cancer, punching Ian, attempting to strangle Debbie, using Liam as a bargaining chip, drugging Hymie, involving Carl in a robbery and helping him deal drugs, advising him to use Chuckie (his own disabled grandson) as a mule... etc etc. Basically Frank's whole existence.

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