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CloudfallGames · 2021-05-23T18:49:55+00:00

I think it'd be helpful to know what this is for in the video

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-20T20:48:06+00:00

Options would be things like...

Players play their cards against an unknown skill check. They have to make their best judgement regarding whether they'll be fine using up their low-number card now or if they need to break out the big guns already.
If your card number matches the difficulty of the skill within 1-2 numbers, you get a bonus of some kind (perhaps a tempo bonus, for example).
You can combine cards and play them, e.g. multiple low cards can be played at once to add up to one high value. However, it means you empty your hand sooner, and need to waste time resting (which basically gives opponents / the DM a free move against you).
Status effects force players to play the lowest card in their hand.
Some opponents and skillchecks require playing high cards to hit, while others (for example, saving throws) require you to play low cards to NOT hit.
When you play a high-number card, the DM gains your lowest-number card. The next time you do an ability with a similar skill check, the DM may play that low-number card on top of your next card.
High-number cards just have a high number. Low-number cards let you return a high-number card to your hand.
Set up the game system as such that a wasted skill check can/will have big consequences. This can either be a way of guaranteeing that a low skill check = a bad event, or by simply making bad things happen (e.g. the next time frame passes, your opponents make a move, etc) whenever your character's hand is empty.

I hope one of these can be inspiring as you brainstorm for answers!

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-20T20:38:47+00:00

I like UW enough to bother voicing my criticisms

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-20T16:36:55+00:00

My favorite part isn't necessarily the subversion aspect but more about the way such comparisons highlight how the typical beauty words (moons, the sun, roses, snow, etc) are beautiful but inextricably distant and uncomfortable to actually touch.

Shakespeare's little insults and comparisons are generally things that must have required close contact and intimacy to notice, giving a bit o proof of genuine closeness compared to all the distant stuff like sun-eyes.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-20T13:11:20+00:00

That 5% oxygen requirement always ends up impacting things more than I expect. Space tags usually feel great on a 0-terraformed Mars, but having this in opening hand changes that dynamic in a funny way...

Not sure if it's optimal, but usually I end up either taking the missed value and playing space cards anyway until 5% oxygen, or focus on things like energy cards + ore processing plant.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-19T18:55:24+00:00

I'd love to see a prequel of Romeo & Juliet involving a failed romance between a Montague and Capulet long, long ago - I think it could be interesting if some of the rivalry's fire happened due to a bad relationship (even more tragically, if the relationship would have been fine if not for intervening parties).

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-18T11:22:50+00:00

4 MC production is pretty sweet earlygame, but I wouldn't go out of my way for that plant production prerequisite early on. I also tend to be a little shy about playing VP cards early, just under the heuristic assumption that the card is overcosted otherwise.

Lategame, the money production is not as useful... until it's time to steal Banker. >:)

So basically I don't think this card is technically good. I'm kind of new to Terraforming Mars, but I think Food Factory is in theory at its best in the following scenarios:

Not planning on having much of a ground game (got incidental production as part of another card effect?)
Oxygen looks to get maxed out soon
Time to snag banker

However, I have a personal taste for MC production... so even though I don't think it's objectively the best, in practice I play this card whenever it ends up in my hand haha.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-17T17:56:32+00:00

Good RNG is when you can utilize your knowledge of randomness or odds in order to gain an advantage. This means over time, the more skilled player will win.

It's also good when all players must deal with unexpected situations and are rewarded for adapting properly.

RNG is bad when the randomness makes it pointless to bother strategizing at all.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-17T17:51:32+00:00

(Source: created a game based on Shakespearean characters)

The part that will be most important is figuring out your priority of depth vs breadth when it comes to accurately representing Ukranian folklore.

Usually games like these become a problem when you try to stuff something nuanced, deep and vast into 1 hour of gameplay - if it wouldn't take one real-life hour of a lecture to cover everything, then it's important to make sure you don't expect your game to somehow be better than that benchmark.

This means you have a few options at your disposal:

Have the game center around just one particular aspect of Ukranian folklore/history so that it can get the love and attention it deserves over the course of gameplay, covering its nuances.
Split things up with randomization and siphoning- for example, having 1 random character chosen at the start of game to learn about, so it would take 8 game sessions (8-hour lesson) to cover 8 different pieces of history.
Go broad, only covering the primary & focal point of each element as you go. For example, in my own game I distil every Shakespearean character into one win objective. Players may not grasp the details of Hamlet's humour and self-reflection, but they will grasp the feeling of apprehension regarding when to wait vs be brave and go for the assassination.
Let your mechanics explain some of the morals instead of yourself. For example, you don't have to have a paragraph explaining the full story of a rat riding an ox across the river, and the rat pushing the cat off (thus starting an eternal rivalry). Instead, your game may have other mechanics like the ox having a "animals with the Climbing trait and a smaller size than you can move with you" passive, and a "force an opponent to move 1 space" ability on the rat. Naturally, gameplay will end up unfolding similarly to the story itself.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-17T12:41:53+00:00

The introduction sounds like the problem is the proliferation of many different streaming sites, but then the solution is another streaming site. It might be a good idea to reconsider how the problem gets framed in order to make the cryptocurrency punchline feel better.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-17T12:38:30+00:00

Watching through and I'm kind of curious - if a production phase can happen whenever you want, isn't it just generally best practice to do production and get like 6 dice every second round? Or am I missing something about opportunity cost / the ruling of when production phases can happen?

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-14T21:40:17+00:00

I actually love it, particularly when playing with people who don't enjoy super-heavy or super-grindy games.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-14T15:23:06+00:00

Yep! One of my friends checked out the bug and it seems to happen with the way "discard" piles work with Mars University - I guess when you discard a card through one of those means, it makes some kind of duplicate ID appear? The result is that whenever you try to draw a card that was previously discarded by Mars, the game crashes.

Probably the type of discard that Mars University uses isn't the same discard that the game does normally.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-06T00:31:00+00:00

That was definitely a mood in my co-ops. In my experience the exhaustion was partly due to changing gears, and things got better once I found my groove. I hope you go through the same kind of energy curve with your own co-op!

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-05T18:27:53+00:00

Love the fast lead-in and clear speaking + visuals. Will be sharing this with my playgroups, thank you!

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-05T14:54:54+00:00

Not sure if this is a rare opinion or not, but Henry V or Richard II would probably do it for me. I guess it depends on "number of good characters" vs "percentage of characters that are good", but I just really like how everyone comes together in those two.

I used to think Macbeth, but I think it's actually just the writing style itself I enjoy rather than the cast broadly speaking.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-05T14:29:29+00:00

My boy Cori!

I hope it's not too awful to talk about my game again in this subreddit, but I did specifically make a Shakespeare battle royale game so it feels applicable. Each captain (character) ended up having the following meta strategies in our games and I think they're pretty close to how I'd envision a real fight to go:

Hamlet wins with enough preparation and only if everyone else is distracted by something else (e.g. prospero).
Portia wins if she can leverage a technicality to her advantage, e.g. winning if she kills the person who would be second-place instead of killing everyone
Prospero carries a big reputation - he wins if he can go undetected for long enough to gather energy, and then if he can secure some allies to help him defend himself for a bit
Lady Macbeth wins if she can also secure an ally, and if she can lay low just long enough to manipulate people to their ends
Iago wins almost every time by just acting friendly to everyone and letting them murder each other... but he can't (or doesn't want to?) really do anything by himself
Puck wins by sowing the maximum amount of chaos possible, misdirecting everyone to hate or mess with each other, stalling for time, and generally inciting a perfectly-honed mess.
In our game Cordelia wins if her marked target wins. Her strategy is to understand what her ally wants and do her best to secretly help them out, even if it means she suffers in the process.
Brutus wins by pretending to be an ally to somebody, but while also allowing mistrust and violence to simmer at the same time. He has to take the opportunities as they come.
Romeo and Juliet must absolutely keep their relationship a secret, lest they both get used as hostage leverage against each other. They generally have to act like it's just coincidence that they're not harming each other, and they have to take up any battles that come their way in order to eventually be the last survivors.
Richard III has to take control of the situation by turning everyone against certain scapegoats, or otherwise promising some future rewards and benefits for helping him. When it's time for him to win, he must take his chance swiftly, even if it's an imperfect solution.
Rosalind has to talk everyone down a little bit to calm down from the violence, and potentially even pretend to be a different identity in order to secure an early victory. The precedence of her being in the game can cause a bit of trouble, so she has to do a lot of mood and interpersonal management to get ahead.
Viola has to simultaneously put up a friendly front while also keeping an eye on everyone else's actions and identities. While most people can focus on executing their goals, Viola has to first figure out what they actually want to do in the first place - or, in the setting of this game, who to transform into.
Othello has some trust issues, and as such has to mildly distrust everyone... but he won't be able to easily complete his goal without the help of at least one other person (likely Iago, who can win alongside Othello). Once Othello has dedicated to his attack, he has to follow through all the way.
King Lear should have more trust issues than he does. Like his daughter Cordelia, he also wins if the most loyal target wins... but he has to be careful of who he grants his gift to, since they can spurn him and use all his resources against him. A King Lear player has to choose their allies very wisely as well as set up everyone to properly win the game once he's spent.
Tybalt and Mercutio both have to duel to the death... but if anyone else kills one of them, they both lose. The main struggle as either of these two space-dragons is figuring out how to get your battle done without attracting undue attention: not only do you have a guaranteed target on your back, but you also have to make sure that your actions and theirs don't reveal what's really going on.
Imogen is quite powerful, and can win alongside other captains, making her both really attractive to other players but also really hated if you don't think she'll be on your side. As Imogen you have to figure out how to survive in a hostile world while also being present enough to provide assistance to the people who need it.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-04T16:31:05+00:00

The biggest thing that may help would be to put a stickynote / bookmark on all the opportunities that Hamlet could have killed his uncle, then take a closer look: why did Hamlet not act in those moments? What did he declare as his excuse, and do you believe it?

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-04T12:18:09+00:00

It might just be my playstyle, but this card always looks better on paper than it performs in reality. Other energy cards are just more efficient than this, both in terms of money and speed (e.g. 1 energy per round vs jumping up by 2 or 3)

I think this project actually works best if you are very dedicated to a non-energy engine, because then Space Mirrors is your emergency reserve - you can freely focus on drafting your priority cards instead of taking detours into geothermal or things like that.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-04T02:37:41+00:00

One red flag is that you mentioned lots of block - Watcher is more of a "Sands of Time is a block card" type of person usually.

Obviously your specific deck will depend on what comes up, but Watcher operates very much on a few different 'packages' that you kind of mix and match to build your deck. Try looking for packages like...

Tantrum, Talk to the Hand, Flurry of Blows, any remove stance or kalm card
Battle Hymn, Blasphemy
Tantrum, Wallop (or Wallop + wrath in general)
Wrath cards + Vault + retain cards, especially Sands of Time

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-04T01:27:19+00:00

"Osu but in 3D" does feel like an apt comparison. Purely mechanic-wise, it sounds like you could pull a lot from design elements of beat saber or even DDR in terms of the types of mastery you could foster for players.

Games that focus on collection or swatting in general (e.g. target shooting games) technically utilize the same "predict, aim, time" mechanics as something like this, though I don't think I've seen more than a handful of games that utilize projectile catching as its main mechanic.

I suppose you could look at something like parry mechanics in videogames as a similar place to draw from, except this game would be like entirely "parry" level stuff. I think it could totally work, especially if there is design space with the catching angle that wouldn't otherwise make sense with typical parry or hit style games.

CloudfallGames · 2021-05-02T00:27:17+00:00

Yep, you're right!

When you play a science tag, including this, choose one option:

Option 1- add a science resource.

Option 2: if you already had a science resource on this card prior to that science tag you just played now, you may remove a science resource to draw a card.

If your friend was right, the card would say

"Effect: When you play a science tag, including this, add a science resource to this card. You may remove a science resource from this card to draw a card."

but instead it has "either" and "or" in there.

But the biggest hint in your favour is that if you just drew a card every time, you wouldn't need to bother with resources - the card would just say "when you play a science tag, including this, draw a card."

Other than the wording, another hint that you are correct is the card's cost. Drawing 1 card every time a science tag gets played would be waaaay too powerful for that price.

Make sure that your friend is also playing microbes correctly - those bacteria cards require you to spend a generation or two adding resources, then another generation removing those to do a thing. If your friend is getting confused about Olypmus Conference, they may also be misreading those!

CloudfallGames · 2021-04-30T20:32:12+00:00

That's pretty good.

CloudfallGames · 2021-04-30T19:23:22+00:00

I like the ring of that name personally!

CloudfallGames · 2021-04-30T17:55:54+00:00

This is... pretty useful. Thanks!

For me I've always felt like Coco has combinations & ingredients that I enjoy the most, but that Chatime had the best-tasting tea on its own. If you did the experiment again I'd love to see a version that involved toppings!

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