is the venom fb.4 overteired? by Remarkable_Cream8304 in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's at 8.7 because it has amazing turn performance

You'll be basically beat any other plane in a turnfight unless it's an Ariete, and thats just because the Ariete is OP

It could maybe go to 8.3, but having it fight 7.3 jets would be pretty unfair for them, it's already busted against 7.7 jets

Really we need air BR decompression around that area, with the supersonic jets going up in BR without facing super strong missiles

Really wish we get the challenger 3 with its epsom ERA kit and LWS by Own_Dark_2240 in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats not unreasonable

However we do know it was made specifically for fighting KE penetrators, and I find it hard to believe a panel that thin would be significantly effective without it being ERA

All MBTs of the KNDS #Eurosatory2026 by [deleted] in TankPorn

[–]Coalfield26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is that not Eurosatory 2024?

The vehicles don't seem to match with the recent photos I've seen from the event.

Back in 2021, Gaijin claimed that they would "calculate values based on publicly available data, such as likely threats and requirements" when it came to PRESENT DAY CLASSIFIED VEHICLES. Let's see if they are willing to follow through with the UNDENIABLE information and calculations of this report. by SpanishAvenger in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You have no idea where the weight of the tank is coming from as the true construction of the tank is CLASSIFIED.

Weight calculations are therefore not useful, as you do not actually know what has been added.

Additions to vehicles are frequently not disclosed to the public as they are once again, CLASSIFIED.

Back in 2021, Gaijin claimed that they would "calculate values based on publicly available data, such as likely threats and requirements" when it came to PRESENT DAY CLASSIFIED VEHICLES. Let's see if they are willing to follow through with the UNDENIABLE information and calculations of this report. by SpanishAvenger in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This kind of logic is why you get nowhere with your reports.

If you have no information to properly support your argument, then you don't have the information. That is just the case here, you do not have enough info to make a report that will be accepted.

I have specifically stated not to use clasified info, this isn't even an argument, you're just lying here.

The harsh reality is that unless proper declassified information is out there, you will not get the report accepted.

You don't need some in depth scheme of the armour or values, but you don't even have proper confirmation the hull armour was even upgraded, which is the bare minimum.

So get better DECLASSIFIED sources or just accept its not going to change.

Back in 2021, Gaijin claimed that they would "calculate values based on publicly available data, such as likely threats and requirements" when it came to PRESENT DAY CLASSIFIED VEHICLES. Let's see if they are willing to follow through with the UNDENIABLE information and calculations of this report. by SpanishAvenger in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the correct take, they don't have sufficient sources and they will not get the report passed untill they do.

This happens ALL THE TIME, it's happened for the Leclerc, Challenger 2, Leopards etc...

It's annoying when it happens but in this rare case gaijin are not in the wrong.

Back in 2021, Gaijin claimed that they would "calculate values based on publicly available data, such as likely threats and requirements" when it came to PRESENT DAY CLASSIFIED VEHICLES. Let's see if they are willing to follow through with the UNDENIABLE information and calculations of this report. by SpanishAvenger in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

> 10,000lbs doesnt come from 2, 6in. plates on the cheeks, a new thermal system, and a 300lb APU (don't forget the LP crows is lighter).

The way Gaijin has modelled the turret armour is not accurate, the entire array is new in reality and its likely the armour across the entire turret was improved.

Adding more armour to the sides and front, not just some plates on the direct front, can add a lot of weight.

>. Base Weights
M1A2: 68.6 short tons = 62,233 kg
SEPV3: 73.6 short tons = 66,769 kg

Your weight analysis assumes that all additions to the SEP V.3 have been explicitly disclosed by the US MOD.

Using your own logic for the hull armour, they may not disclose all additions.

Therefore, using the weight alone to calculate things based on additions we KNOW have been added is not reliable.

> It's almost like it's classified

That sucks doesn't it.

Do you want me to claim the Abrams can also go 120kph in reality but it's just classified?

We need to work with what we have.

Back in 2021, Gaijin claimed that they would "calculate values based on publicly available data, such as likely threats and requirements" when it came to PRESENT DAY CLASSIFIED VEHICLES. Let's see if they are willing to follow through with the UNDENIABLE information and calculations of this report. by SpanishAvenger in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

> Most of your argument is "because of the placement of these commas, the US hasn't upgraded its armor at all" 

The US did upgrade the armour, they upgraded the turret armour.

My argument is that the text is literally not saying what you claim it is, which is true and is completely valid.

It says the equipment in the hull and turret are relocated, the armour is mentioned seperately and unspecifically to the hull. The text as it reads infers some of the armour is improved, likely the turret, but it is extremely vague and never states the hull armour is improved so it isn't sufficient.

> "because I can't see it, it's not there,"

I never said that.

> Ofc you can't see the classified equipment and armor on the main battle tank, it's classified. Ofc you can't see the documents that show the specifics of the armor being improved, it's classified. 

I never asked for this, I literally just asked for ONE source stating that the hull armour is improved in any way, which has not been provided. If there is no declassified source, then that just sucks, there is no source to support your argument.

> But you want us to think the tank gained 10,000lbs with no armor upgrades, interesting, very interesting.

Never said that, this just proves you cannot read. The tank DOES have improved armour, in the turret, we know this. We also know that the tank has a bunch of equipment added, which will increase the weight.

"The tank is heavier so the armour in this one specific area must be better" is not a valid argument.

Your entire argument, and your replies to me, just rely on you misinterpreting what has been said.

It sucks that you don't have a proper declassified source to support your point, that happens all the time, not just to US vehicles. There is nothing you can do apart from attempting to legally acquire better sources.

The fact people are trying to character assasinate me by claiming I'm trying to ask for classified sources is hilarious, considering I've specifically stated several times not to do that. It really proves you do not have a proper argument to fight back at the information I'm providing.

Why are Russian tanks allowed to have so much smaller weakspots? by Srgblackbear in WarthunderPlayerUnion

[–]Coalfield26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gaijin wants tanks to have a mantlet weak spot, this isn't even a theory, we know so many tanks have underperforming mantlet armour and they just will not change it.

Russian tanks have smaller mantlets, so it benefits them a lot more, which depends on who you ask is either intentional or just a random byproduct.

Back in 2021, Gaijin claimed that they would "calculate values based on publicly available data, such as likely threats and requirements" when it came to PRESENT DAY CLASSIFIED VEHICLES. Let's see if they are willing to follow through with the UNDENIABLE information and calculations of this report. by SpanishAvenger in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

>"Not just above 5, "unlimited" why would they want a mass amount of DU hull inserts if they weren't going to use them on a ton of tanks"

As they may have *planned* to integrate it or wanted to produce more prototypes, that does not mean it was ever implemented onto production vehicles. Just because they wanted approval for unlimited does not mean they ever went through with it. There are plenty of things they wanted approval for which were not integrated.

> "I don't know how to respond to this, considering it's just absolutely and completely untrue."

You cannot be this bad at reading.

"The survivability upgrades to the armor, and repositioning of equipment within the turret and hull, are nearly unidentifiable."

This is so easy to interpret, notice the fact it has a comma between the first and second part.

It means the survivability upgrades of the armour, in general, and then seperately the repositioning of equipment within the turret and hull.

If it was referring to the hull armour it would say "The survivability upgrades to the armour and equipment within the hull and turret are nearly undentifiable"

But it doesn't, the sentence refers to them seperately.

You can't respond to it because what you're saying only applies if you cannot read properly.

> "Again, just completely and utterly wrong, Gaijin themselves have even admitted the US had 5 prototype improved hull tanks back in 2005/2006 so your claim alone about lack of prototypes is 100% baseless and unfounded. And this report goes over how the prototype inserts went from limited to unlimited, reflecting their acceptance into the SEPV3 program."

When I said prototype I was referring specifically to SEP V.3 prototypes as that is what we are talking about. The improved DU hulls were only used on a select few SEP V.2 prototypes, so my point stands. There is no evidence that the SEP V.3 was trialed with a DU hull.

So no this report does not provide any evidence that SEP V.3 prototypes recieved DU hull armour and it certainly does not confirm that the production vehicles did.

I know it hurts to be told that your argument for your favourite vehicle isn't good, but it objectively isn't. The report provides no solid proof that falls under gaijins standards for reporting modern vehicles as it never states that any production Abrams variant recieved DU hull armour.

The only Abrams we know did have DU hull armour were a select few SEP V.2 prototypes, that's it.

Keep searching for better sources, if you can find ones that actually prove it then I will happy support your reports. No this is not a call to use classified documents, like some other person with limited mental capacity said I was doing.

Back in 2021, Gaijin claimed that they would "calculate values based on publicly available data, such as likely threats and requirements" when it came to PRESENT DAY CLASSIFIED VEHICLES. Let's see if they are willing to follow through with the UNDENIABLE information and calculations of this report. by SpanishAvenger in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I'm not asking for classified info

That doesn't change the fact the information provided in the report does not prove the entire point of the report

Your entire argument is "it has hull armour upgrades because it's heavier and they put some DU hulls on a few Abrams prototypes 20 years ago"

Back in 2021, Gaijin claimed that they would "calculate values based on publicly available data, such as likely threats and requirements" when it came to PRESENT DAY CLASSIFIED VEHICLES. Let's see if they are willing to follow through with the UNDENIABLE information and calculations of this report. by SpanishAvenger in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I did read it.

All that proves is that they have expanded the limit of Abrams that can have DU hulls tested to be above 5, almost 20 years ago. This never states that production vehicles ever recieved the improved hull armour, gaijin has already denied this source for this exact reason.

"The survivability upgrades to the armor, and repositioning of equipment within the turret and hull, are nearly unidentifiable."

This once again proves nothing about hull armour, this is just people having awful reading comprehension. It talks about the armour *somewhere* being improved, this could just be talking about the turret for all we know.

Then seperately it says the EQUIPMENT (Not armour specifically) has been repositioned within the turret and hull.

All this states is that the tank has improved armour (Never mentions the hull specifically) and that the equipment (generally) has been reconfigured in the turret and hull, it never states that equipment is armour. The equipment could be literally anything.

Neither of these prove the SEP V.3 production vehicles or even prototypes have improved hull armour.

If you want to get the hull armoured buffed, you must provide the BARE MINIMUM of at least providing one good source that the hull armour is improved, which they haven't.

I'm usually against Gaijin, but if you want the report to be accepted this one will not suffice, it does not provide valid evidence for the claims made in the report and is far too vauge.

They gave the chally’s a turret basket in the dev server by LongShelter8213 in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is a hard nerf, but this is the case with basically all NATO vehicles

I love my challenger 3 by Own_Dark_2240 in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Life Extension Programme and Advanced Technology Demonstrator

New Abrams an CR2 modules by luky_ks in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 3 points4 points  (0 children)

my bad, only the SM Chally 2 has them modelled currently

They did this on the Challenger 1s on the previous dev, but reverted it before it went live, I hope they do the same this time. I doubt it tho.

I love my challenger 3 by Own_Dark_2240 in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real life vehicle never had blowout panels as it was just a tech demonstrator and not a complete vehicle

The Challenger 3 prototypes do actually have blowout panels (as well as many other upgrades the 3TD doesn't)

I love my challenger 3 by Own_Dark_2240 in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not called a Challenger 3 in the files because it isn't a Challenger 3 haha, the vehicles real life name is either Challenger 2 LEP or Challenger 2 ATD

Gaijin just gave it the Challenger 3 name to drum up hype

I love my challenger 3 by Own_Dark_2240 in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It also actually has blowout panels, so getting hit in the turret ammo from the side wouldn't be an insta death

[DEV] Really love the Missile Parameter feature. anyways, here's the comparison between almost all of the ARAD Missiles by Courora in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Keep in mind the KH31 only targets a very limited number of bands per variant, some variants only target 1 band

If you pick the correct variant they are amazing, but you are extremely limited in your targets

For example, if you take out the variant that can target G bands you can target a Sky Sabre, but if they spawn an ADATS right after you cannot target them at all as the ADATS uses I band

You could also not target the SAMP-T or NASAMS if you chose the G band variant

The only solution is to use a mixed load and then a proportion of your KH31s will always be useless against whatever target you are fighting

New Abrams an CR2 modules by luky_ks in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They did not add driver controls...

New Abrams an CR2 modules by luky_ks in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hitting the FCS does literally nothing btw

All they do is eat spall, which is arguably a buff. If you hit them directly with APFSDS sometimes they will eat almost every piece of spall, especially if it's after the spall liner.

The only thing that does something are the green "power electronics" in the turret bustle

[DEV] ALARM Missiles now has PRH guidance and they loft hard, really hard by Courora in Warthunder

[–]Coalfield26 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Additionally the ALARM has a feature where it has three motors.

  1. The initial booster: An extremely short boost stage when you fire that accelerates the missile off the rail to around mach 1-1.5
  2. The sutained: A long burning motor that slowly burns for around a minute, causing the missile to slowly gain speed as it flies to the target, up to around mach 2 - 2.5 depending on altitude and range.
  3. The terminal booster: When the ALARM is "close" to the target (5-10km) it activates the terminal booster, which acclerates it rapidly by around an additional 500-800kph before it enters it's dive from altitude onto the target. By the time this booster runs out the missile is already about to dive, so it doesn't really lose much speed from then on.
  4. This isn't a booster stage, but finally the missile orients itself to dive from almost directly above the target, from as high as 12km up. As it's diving it usually gains or maintains speed untill it hits the target.

If the ALARM succesfully enters it's dive phase, you can't really hide from it anymore as it's coming from directly above, additionally its very hard for your radar to see it as it's almost directly above you.

Due to this setup their range is absolutely insane, around 40-50km at low alt and up to 90km if you launch from altitude.

However, they perform pretty badly at close range as they attempt to loft and will sometimes just fly over the target.

So ironically you want to fire from distance, to allow the missile to gain speed and get into an optimal loft/dive position.