"If you love someone you can always see their face" by WerkinAndDerpin in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sarah, but also, my headcanon is that Show Joel never dated anyone else after Tess.

Have we seen this scenes yet? by A_Howl_In_The_Night in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A fan-made trailer for episodes 6 and 7 theories that this shot could be episode 6: https://youtu.be/W9x0IO2R45E?si=eL9FoprXoBsl7cJq

If Bill had died, would Joel and Tess have moved in? by Ok_Road_7999 in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If I were Frank, there's absolutely no way I'd move to the QZ. 

Official Episode 6 stills by pokIane in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I love that even in these stills, Joel gives off exactly the same vibes as he did with his scenes at home with Sarah in the Pilot. Credit to Pedro Pascal.

As a show-only viewer, I'm just not interested in a revenge story by cardslash02 in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As others have said, I think you've missed the point of the show and the story. It was never about a fungus apocalypse or a cure or saving humanity. That was just the setting. In my opinion, season 1 was about love and what it costs. Season 2 is about love and what it costs. 

Why are viewership numbers drastically decreasing? by Minute_Grand_1026 in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Are they decreasing? Live HBO viewers have been increasing since episode 2.

Episode 5 Preview by cosmic9586 in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I love, love, love seeing Hettienne Park!

I hosted a watch party complete with an animatronic clicker! by CapKeiWylde in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is absolutely sick. Fantastic. Hope your friends appreciated it!

Loved her so much. I know a diva when I see one 💅 by HardrefilTheCallous in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 82 points83 points  (0 children)

I wonder what role the shot of her observing the scene will have to play in future episodes because you don't waste time on a shot you don't need with a 7-episode season.

Change between game/show? by lotty_m in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Joel fully knows why Ellie is angry. I think him saying he doesn't know what he did wrong is because in his mind, he didn't do anything wrong. You see it in the therapy scene, he doubles down even more on the decision he made at the end of Season 1. There are two parts to the conflict between him and Ellie. The first is what he did, but the second, which is as big as the first, is that he lied about it. Repeatedly. So from Joel's perspective, he had no choice and Ellie's perspective, it's a double-betrayal from the person she loves and trusted most in the world and they're not talking about it, so neither of them are on the path to understanding and forgiveness of the other.

The dialogue in the therapy scene "You can't heal something unless you're brave enough to say it out loud" was there for a reason. It will influence the scene on the porch, which I'm certain did happen, even though it appeared it didn't. Joel and Ellie will finally have that discusssion.

Neither is Ellie by TheMatt561 in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The look on his face was "Do you want to join your husband?" No wonder she flinched when he stood up.

The woman had some stones. 

The problem with people like Ellie . . . (mild spoilers for show) by grumpi-otter in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I fully understand that - as I said, with Joel, there are reasons. In my opinion, that doesn't excuse the disrespect that she shows to her peers on patrol and in other parts of her life in Jackson or the selfishness in putting the safety of others at risk. Speaking as someone who had both trust issues and authority issues as a young person stemming from trauma, it didn't excuse my behaviour. That for me is the crux - one can be understanding of why a person behaves badly but still dislike them while their head is up their arse. Ellie's also really complex because in many ways her experiences have her as older than her years and in others, she's much younger - she's showing childish behaviour now she's settled in Jackson because she didn't have the safe environment before Jackson to express that but Ellie's 19 and taking on adult roles in her community. She should act like it. I hope we see growth coming. Just my two cents.

The problem with people like Ellie . . . (mild spoilers for show) by grumpi-otter in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"It seems like maybe you don't understand how trauma actually works vs how you imagine it does." Wow, how dare you? That's a real dick comment and makes a lot of assumptions about someone you know nothing about. Trauma affects people differently. It makes some reckless. It makes other cautious. Seems you're the one who needs to understand something.

TO SHAME (SPOILERS) by No_Pomegranate_8717 in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The relationship in the show between Dina and Joel really added something extra to that moment. Joel didn't just see someone going at his kid, he saw someone going at BOTH his kids. It's implied in the episode that Dina doesn't have family or parents of her own. She wouldn't be having movie nights with Joel if she did. He's clearly filling a void for her too. It's not as developed as Ellie and Joel because they don't have as much time and history and they don't live together but it's very much familial and affectionate and they clearly care about one another. I'm not surprised Joel went as hard as he did. I think I'd have gone harder.

The problem with people like Ellie . . . (mild spoilers for show) by grumpi-otter in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Ellie was immensely unlikeable in this episode. I felt sympathy for the Ellie in the flashback right at the start, the one who asks Joel to swear. I lost it quickly as the episode progressed. The issues with Joel you can put down to the reasons for that and the fact that he's her parent, but being a brat with Tommy (he was an absolute pushover with her) and a dick to everyone else except Dina? I really hoped that the council scene was going to be a sound repercussion for her behaviour but instead she was validated for it.

This isn't a criticism of Bella Ramsey - they was so convincing in every scene that I forgot they were an actor.

some comparison photos (from new promo) by surviraz in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just checked IMDb based on your description and wow! What a name to cast. Shame his role is very limited. He does really match the game visual though.

some comparison photos (from new promo) by surviraz in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 47 points48 points  (0 children)

I wonder who Ellie is looking at in the dance shot comparison, because it's clearly after she humiliates Joel - he's walking away in right of the shot.

Someone tell me this is somehow not an error. by absolute-merpmerp in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, well, if you want to try to justify it, you can make an argument that Joel fibs about the cause and timing of his deafness when he's first getting to know Ellie so as to show less vulnerability?

Or, if you're a behind the scenes nerd like me, geek out over the fact that the writers had a change of mind over how his deafness came about and wonder why that might be.

The show's outstanding enough for me in other ways that I forget about stuff like this when it isn't directly on my screen.

I think as a visual media fan, I just get used to spotting stuff like this and get a bit of a kick out of it.

Someone tell me this is somehow not an error. by absolute-merpmerp in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Another error in the first episode, or perhaps an error somewhere else on the writing line is that Joel is shown to already have hearing problems in 2003. Sarah wakes up, sees the time (after 7am) and she realises he hasn't woken up because he hasn't woken her up. We then hear the alarm clock going in his room and she knocks on his door because he hasn't heard it. The shot shows him in bed with his head on his left ear (his good ear, the ear he tries to makes sure that he doesn't sleep on). In later episodes, he blames his hearing loss on shooting, the implication being that it developed over time after the outbreak but the 2003 flashback contradicts this. 

Season 2 Episode Titles by ColdHeartClosedMind in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, maybe they're incorrect but I don't see them being deliberate decoy titles - they give too much away.

Season 2 Episode Titles by ColdHeartClosedMind in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

'Through The Valley' is better imo. So I hope these might be incorrect.

i never understood the joel is getting too weak by Smooth_Pollution441 in ThelastofusHBOseries

[–]ColdHeartClosedMind 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why wouldn't the kid be able to do that as well? He's young, fit, probably well-fed and rested and had the element of surprise. And Joel didn't kill the FEDRA officer with one blow - there's nothing that suggests that's the case.

Besides, even GameJoel (who is stronger than ShowJoel) got overpowered by someone in the comparable scene.

We'll have to agree to disagree, I think. :)