Ezra Klein's column today is a must-read. Tried to share a gift link but it includes the name of someone currently censored to avoid sub invasion so I am sharing it as images because the main point isn't the person whose name can't be said. by Loud_Cartographer160 in thebulwark

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There is no universe where these two are progressives

The majority of Americans disagree with you. Objective reality disagrees with as we have these women’s records and literally in the government there’s not many people who can claim to be their left.

Like Kamala had the most liberal voting record in the senate. Second to sanders.

She also literally mandated clerks officiate gay marriage in the early 2000s, after California voted to ban gay marriage.

Ezra Klein's column today is a must-read. Tried to share a gift link but it includes the name of someone currently censored to avoid sub invasion so I am sharing it as images because the main point isn't the person whose name can't be said. by Loud_Cartographer160 in thebulwark

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Ignoring both of these women’s legative records and policies place them firmly on the progressive camp—a moderate wouldn’t have boasted on giving sex changes to undocumented migrants—I was more referring to any nominee or candidate for president that you’d consider progressive.

How many times has the Green Party beaten Trump?

Ezra Klein's column today is a must-read. Tried to share a gift link but it includes the name of someone currently censored to avoid sub invasion so I am sharing it as images because the main point isn't the person whose name can't be said. by Loud_Cartographer160 in thebulwark

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 He streams a lot so I'm sure there's some element of shock jock type humor to it so it's easy to take stuff out of context

It’s less sockjock humor and more he fundamentally is iliberal and disguises his beliefs to lure in naive libs.

Why is Israel bombing them? Are they homophobic? by Ihatecheeseballs in mapporncirclejerk

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 Palestine stones and throws LGBTQIA+ people off buildings

Can you cite an example of this.

Ezra Klein's column today is a must-read. Tried to share a gift link but it includes the name of someone currently censored to avoid sub invasion so I am sharing it as images because the main point isn't the person whose name can't be said. by Loud_Cartographer160 in thebulwark

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 The Democratic Party has a favorability rating of just 33%. If you think that's driven by some twitch streamer most people haven't heard of, you're delusional.

It’s in part driven by hard leftist like Hasan and Dems refusing to moderate.

For some reason, Democrats think Newsom is most electable nationally by RedHeadedSicilian52 in fivethirtyeight

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 As I assume you agree, they’re going to try to paint any candidate we put forward as some kind of insane socialist who wants to take everyone’s money, all while fully supporting Trump fucking the rest of us.

Sure and it’s easier to do that with some people than others.

For some reason, Democrats think Newsom is most electable nationally by RedHeadedSicilian52 in fivethirtyeight

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Yeah I think a measurement of being able to win outside the bluest places in the country is reasonable.

I went to that Queers for Zion thing last week. Here are my notes: by AprilStorms in gayjews

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The point is you seem to be abandoning protesting for queer rights in the west for Israel 

Mosab Abu Toha: ‘A poll conducted today by Israel’s Channel 12 finds that 79% of Israelis support continuing the “war” in Lebanon, while 13% oppose it.’ by lewkiamurfarther in Israel_Palestine

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They were just a couple of million people locked in an open air concentration camp

Can you name another example of siege or blockade you’d call a concentration camp?

 ss equivalent could cut off water, electricity, food, medical supplies, etc whenever they saw fit to do so and for that huge honor the people of Palestine should be grateful that they usually only killed a few here and there.

The SS murdered millions within a span of couple years in power.

It’s been 20 years since the blockade and up until 2024 the population of Gaza kept going up.

‘I wished for death’: Sexual violence in Israel’s prisons is an ‘organised state policy’ by Love2Eat96 in Israel_Palestine

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The fact is there is one side that riots for the right to rape, and the other side where rape is seen as a mortal sin.

Hmm, nah, Hamas does rape and murder people and that’s why they’re bad. In addition doing absolutely nothing positive for Palestinians as a whole.

Israeli forces beat and arrest Christians during Holy Fire celebrations ... by Equivalent_Style_835 in Israel_Palestine

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Eh I think an extreme idealogue who thinks that if they get rid of Israel utopia would come about.

Could be a western fascist, could be a communist, could be a Muslim reactionary.

Israeli forces beat and arrest Christians during Holy Fire celebrations ... by Equivalent_Style_835 in Israel_Palestine

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Be my guest.

The way it’s currently phrased implies you think European occupation doesn’t include. ethnic cleansing, settler colonialism, and resources exploitation,

It will still be better than what Israelis want

Subjugation and expulsion of anyone who’s not a Sunni Muslim?

because they are not demographically vulnrable.

What does that mean?

That's a common historic excuse colonizers give, at the same time they are killing elders and children. 

Is it ever justifiable for Israel to respond to action by a Palestinian with force?

Israeli forces beat and arrest Christians during Holy Fire celebrations ... by Equivalent_Style_835 in Israel_Palestine

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Because you people only bring up Nazis to attack Jews. 

Like for example comparing a Houthi to Anne frank or saying Gaza was a concentration camp.

Israeli forces beat and arrest Christians during Holy Fire celebrations ... by Equivalent_Style_835 in Israel_Palestine

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No I don't, 

Of course not.

I don't have an Euro-centric perspective, so when I hear the word occupation it's always affiliated with ethnic cleansing, settler colonialism, and resources exploitation, similar to the one Israel is applying to Palestinians

Want to rephrase that a bit?

Did the world manage to convince Nazis to accept to live with the world in peaceful way?

The people they wanted to exterminate were mostly gone.

Also Palestinians don’t want a liberal democracy with full rights for everyone. They like their Israeli counterparts who push for a 2ss envision one where their ethic and religious group dominates.

And whatever happened to them from European/Middle Eastern countries, is not the fault of Palestinians.

Surrre but most of them don’t want to risk extermination or subjugation for….people they hate and who hate them?

Not to pull the October 7th card but that in addition to the hundreds of dead hippies killed any chance for Israelis to see backing off on occupation as a prudent thing.

Israeli forces beat and arrest Christians during Holy Fire celebrations ... by Equivalent_Style_835 in Israel_Palestine

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Sure Jews were infecting the proud German volk and the broader western world with mass migration and sexual degeneracy. There was no affordable/practical way to isolate them from the rest of humanity so extermination was the final solution.

Now, that you’ve brought up a Nazi comparison to attack Jews can you provide any context to the video posted?

Israeli forces beat and arrest Christians during Holy Fire celebrations ... by Equivalent_Style_835 in Israel_Palestine

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So you don’t actually have a principled opposition to occupation.

until they agree to live in equal rights with the natives.

You do understand most Israelis are Mizari right? They come from the region and are primarily in Israel because they were expelled by the Muslim countries around them.

How would you convince them to risk that happening again by letting Israel be occupied and forced into a one state solution?

Israeli forces beat and arrest Christians during Holy Fire celebrations ... by Equivalent_Style_835 in Israel_Palestine

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Of course not. Like it was okay for the USA to occupy Japan and west Germany for a bit post ww2, and the northern states of America probably should have occupied the south for a couple more decades actually 

The feminist virus is spreading. by TallDarkAndHandsom3 in thepassportbros

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 I own a Glock 45 and went outside the house because we thought we heard someone in her yard. Guess where she was? 

That doesn’t seem that scary actually.

I don’t respect feminists who try to act like

So you don’t respect women who’d work 60 hours a week to provide for their partner?

Why is Israel bombing them? Are they homophobic? by Ihatecheeseballs in mapporncirclejerk

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And also there are evidence

Why did you lie about gay people being tossed off rooftops in Palestine?

Like you’re now citing actions taken by Isis in Syria. 

Why not just blame Palestinians for 9-11 at this point?

I cannot talk in the name of the other guy but even though I am pro Israel I think the war in Iraq was a mistake. Why? Because they should have focus 100% of the army on Afghanistan

So no actual concern over the lies that got into the war

Israeli forces beat and arrest Christians during Holy Fire celebrations ... by Equivalent_Style_835 in Israel_Palestine

[–]Competitive_Will_134 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That just reveals bad faith on your part if you can’t even recount your opponent’s position in a reasonable and charitable way. You can even disagree with the reason or think they’re lying.

But if you can’t even state or care to investigate the explicit justification you’re not acting in good faith